TDF 2019: Stage 7, Belfort > Chalon-sur-Saône 12/07/2019 - 230 km *Spoilers*

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Motos.

    Depends on speed but at 50kph with the moto at 10m they save roughly 5s per km.

    At 5m it’s 12-15 seconds.

    Moto alongside is actually a disadvantage.

    Moto within 5m from behind is also a small advantage.

    You forgot his most insightful bit: Daniel Oss's hairo ain't aero,
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Motos.

    Depends on speed but at 50kph with the moto at 10m they save roughly 5s per km.

    At 5m it’s 12-15 seconds.

    Moto alongside is actually a disadvantage.

    Moto within 5m from behind is also a small advantage.

    You forgot his most insightful bit: Daniel Oss's hairo ain't aero,

    WHO KNEW
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Valgren winning amstrel was the biggest Moto win I remember
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    On the slow mo replay it’s clear Ewan’s backwheel bounces a lot up off the road in the final 20m.

    A suggestion that he’s so far forward on the bike he loses rear traction pretty fast..!

    Millar pointed this out on ITV - can't remember for sure, but pretty sure he mentioned it before a replay had been shown, which was a pretty impressive spot. From the head-on the back wheel is terrifyingly all over the place.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    mididoctors wrote:
    Valgren winning amstrel was the biggest Moto win I remember

    Nibali San Remo...
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    mididoctors wrote:
    Valgren winning amstrel was the biggest Moto win I remember

    Nibali San Remo...

    That runs valgren close but no. Oddly valgrens win was accidentally assisted rather than partisan motos
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Tejay van Ladygarden has confirmed his withdrawal with a broken hand - https://twitter.com/nealrogers/status/1149792024645652481
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,493
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    Tejay van Ladygarden has confirmed his withdrawal with a broken hand - https://twitter.com/nealrogers/status/1149792024645652481
    I like what you did there.
    Chapeau if original.
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    PBlakeney wrote:
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    Tejay van Ladygarden has confirmed his withdrawal with a broken hand - https://twitter.com/nealrogers/status/1149792024645652481
    I like what you did there.
    Chapeau if original.

    Bit of a traditional name around here; think I got it from ATC - certainly not mine.

    I'm amused by the press release suggesting that he's worried about not being able to go slowly around all the other riders, because traditionally that's not something he's struggled with.
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1149786229728264193

    Ewan power sliding to the line.
  • bm5
    bm5 Posts: 601
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Thank God that's over and without mishap. (Tejay excluded)

    Got back home just for the last few kms. What happened to TJVG?
    You missed an impressive land art celebrating 100 years of a type of horse with a blonde mane and then some of these horses in a field. Apart from the Brian Robinson interview and footage of his stage win 60 years ago ( on ITV 4) those horses were the highlight of the stage.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Delete
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    On the slow mo replay it’s clear Ewan’s backwheel bounces a lot up off the road in the final 20m.

    A suggestion that he’s so far forward on the bike he loses rear traction pretty fast..!

    Millar pointed this out on ITV - can't remember for sure, but pretty sure he mentioned it before a replay had been shown, which was a pretty impressive spot. From the head-on the back wheel is terrifyingly all over the place.

    Caused entirely by the amount of weight he gets over the front wheel.

    It’s costing him wins for sure.
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Tejay van Garderen has been forced to withdraw from the race due to a fractured hand.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • ocdupalais
    ocdupalais Posts: 4,317
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Tejay van Garderen has been forced to withdraw from the race due to a fractured hand.
    That is so Tejay.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    PBlakeney wrote:
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    Tejay van Ladygarden has confirmed his withdrawal with a broken hand - https://twitter.com/nealrogers/status/1149792024645652481
    I like what you did there.
    Chapeau if original.

    Bit of a traditional name around here; think I got it from ATC - certainly not mine.

    I'm amused by the press release suggesting that he's worried about not being able to go slowly around all the other riders, because traditionally that's not something he's struggled with.

    I must defer to RR on that nickname.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    BM5 wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Thank God that's over and without mishap. (Tejay excluded)

    Got back home just for the last few kms. What happened to TJVG?
    You missed an impressive land art celebrating 100 years of a type of horse with a blonde mane and then some of these horses in a field. Apart from the Brian Robinson interview and footage of his stage win 60 years ago ( on ITV 4) those horses were the highlight of the stage.

    Bügger. I'm assuming they were Comtois. I clearly missed the best bit.

    Magnificent beasts as that miserable bloke from Game of Thrones would say...

    ae9d80b2566d89d5030727a7641c9834--war-horses-draft-horses.jpg
    Correlation is not causation.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Bügger. I'm assuming they were Comtois. I clearly missed the best bit.

    Magnificent beasts as that miserable bloke from Game of Thrones would say...

    ae9d80b2566d89d5030727a7641c9834--war-horses-draft-horses.jpg

    "Alexa, show me a horse with fake tan and peroxide hair that looks like it's just about to audition for Geordie Shore."
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    Bügger. I'm assuming they were Comtois. I clearly missed the best bit.

    Magnificent beasts as that miserable bloke from Game of Thrones would say...

    ae9d80b2566d89d5030727a7641c9834--war-horses-draft-horses.jpg

    "Alexa, show me a horse with fake tan and peroxide hair that looks like it's just about to audition for Geordie Shore."

    :lol:
    Correlation is not causation.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Viviani takes the intermediate from the bunch (behind the break)

    What a waste of time the green jersey competition is.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Someone in the bunch doesn't want the break to win.

    I've got an awful hangover so I am going back to sleep for a bit. Maybe something will be happening later.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Someone in the bunch doesn't want the break to win.

    I've got an awful hangover so I am going back to sleep for a bit. Maybe something will be happening later.

    Psst - Bob - I know yesterday's stage was slow, but it's not still going on a whole day later. :lol:
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Laporte really struggling on the first climb, as is Offredo.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340
    And there you have it. Yesterday's stage was so forgettable that we've apparently mentally replaced it with a rest day and assumed today is stage 7...
    Twitter: @canocola @thedreadships
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    underlayunderlay wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    Someone in the bunch doesn't want the break to win.

    I've got an awful hangover so I am going back to sleep for a bit. Maybe something will be happening later.

    Psst - Bob - I know yesterday's stage was slow, but it's not still going on a whole day later. :lol:
    Oops

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