TDF 2019: Stage 7, Belfort > Chalon-sur-Saône 12/07/2019 - 230 km *Spoilers*

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    ITV have a nice chat with Theo Bos, who they poached from Avondetappe. :)
    One hour of "racing" left.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    ITV have a nice chat with Theo Bos, who they poached from Avondetappe. :)
    One hour of "racing" left.

    Have noticed Sven Nys doubling up on the evening discussion table progs.

    He was making an interesting point regarding (wait for it, this is so unexpected) the steep gradients on the sand/gravel in yesterday's finale.

    Making the point that Teuns' much stiller upper body and smoother style would have materially helped him vs Ciccone who was bouncing around a lot more and subsequently was visibly spinning his rear wheel more.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    A little bit of echelon action has Dan Martin (again) and Wout van Aert out the back.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Quintana too! 40 seconds behind.

    So everybody slows down. Meh.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Dan Martin and Quintana caught sleeping.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Panic over
  • Something happened!
  • Half 4 and still 15km to go
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    Brian Smith "not one of the most exciting stages"

    Masterful understatement
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    are they on strike?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Van Aert after an Ineos contract? :P
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Groaningwagon and Ewan both think they have it
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    Viviani went too early

    I think Groenewegen has it
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Groaningwagon just from Ewan.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Boom shakalaka
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Harder finish than the road book shows
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Thank God that's over and without mishap. (Tejay excluded)
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    Well I’m glad I didn’t go to the pub and miss that
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Thank God that's over and without mishap. (Tejay excluded)

    Got back home just for the last few kms. What happened to TJVG?
    Correlation is not causation.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    Dan Martin blaming the TV motos for causing the split
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    Thank God that's over and without mishap. (Tejay excluded)

    Got back home just for the last few kms. What happened to TJVG?

    He was over hyped at the start of his career and never kicked on. The hype seems to have made him unwilling to work hard, instead favouring looking cool and calm on the bike over riding quicker.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • Alejandrosdog
    Alejandrosdog Posts: 1,975
    gsk82 wrote:
    Thank God that's over and without mishap. (Tejay excluded)

    Got back home just for the last few kms. What happened to TJVG?

    He was over hyped at the start of his career and never kicked on. The hype seems to have made him unwilling to work hard, instead favouring looking cool and calm on the bike over riding quicker.

    I’m a massive fan of ef and Cannondale. I agree 100% and just don’t get why people are surprised when he gets dropped or underperforms.

    Woods on the other hand seems to be the real deal. Uran is good, perhaps the best but I just don’t see him as a winner.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    gsk82 wrote:
    Thank God that's over and without mishap. (Tejay excluded)

    Got back home just for the last few kms. What happened to TJVG?

    He was over hyped at the start of his career and never kicked on. The hype seems to have made him unwilling to work hard, instead favouring looking cool and calm on the bike over riding quicker.

    I meant more on the stage rather than Teejay being well his usual disappointing self.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    gsk82 wrote:
    Thank God that's over and without mishap. (Tejay excluded)

    Got back home just for the last few kms. What happened to TJVG?

    He was over hyped at the start of his career and never kicked on. The hype seems to have made him unwilling to work hard, instead favouring looking cool and calm on the bike over riding quicker.

    I meant more on the stage rather than Teejay being well his usual disappointing self.

    He had a bad crash exiting a roundabout when all was tranquillo.

    Photo of his face here.

    https://twitter.com/easydoughMo/status/ ... 4355959809
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    Dan Martin blaming the TV motos for causing the split

    Viviani blames puncture for going backwards.
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Avondetappe has an aerodynamicist as guest to discuss exactly this moto issue.

    Will report back.

    Your correspondent,

    Rick
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Groenewegen really was badly positioned for most of that run in but his sprint boxed cadel in and that was the difference, beyond his legs which looked good.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    On the slow mo replay it’s clear Ewan’s backwheel bounces a lot up off the road in the final 20m.

    A suggestion that he’s so far forward on the bike he loses rear traction pretty fast..!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Motos.

    Depends on speed but at 50kph with the moto at 10m they save roughly 5s per km.

    At 5m it’s 12-15 seconds.

    Moto alongside is actually a disadvantage.

    Moto within 5m from behind is also a small advantage.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Dekker points out with a small video on how many motos there were in front of Alaphilippe during his solo win.

    LOADS!