Only an MP could get away with this.

Stevo_666

rjsterry wrote:

Bally, you seem to have a bit of a thing for her.

It would appear that Bally has something in common with Corbyn then

Stevo_666

Brakeless wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

I see she's doing her best to keep up Labour standards of behaviour.

Jonathan Aitkin - 18 months for perjury, Jeffrey Archer - perjury, Lord Hanningfield -- 14 months for falsely claiming £14k in expenses, Lord Taylor 12 Months for falsely claiming £12 in expenses. All tories.

And yes you can find Labour MPs who have been jailed but to describe this case as 'Labour standards of behaviour' is pretty pathetic really.

Sense of humour bypass award of the day goes to you...

But anyway, there's no time like the present, so which other MP's are in currently in prison?

imposter2.0

Stevo 666 wrote:

But anyway, there's no time like the present, so which other MP's are in currently in prison?

How is that relevant?

Stevo_666

Imposter wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

But anyway, there's no time like the present, so which other MP's are in currently in prison?

How is that relevant?

Because there's no time like the present as mentioned in my post above...

keef66

Stevo 666 wrote:

Brakeless wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

I see she's doing her best to keep up Labour standards of behaviour.

Jonathan Aitkin - 18 months for perjury, Jeffrey Archer - perjury, Lord Hanningfield -- 14 months for falsely claiming £14k in expenses, Lord Taylor 12 Months for falsely claiming £12 in expenses. All tories.

And yes you can find Labour MPs who have been jailed but to describe this case as 'Labour standards of behaviour' is pretty pathetic really.

Sense of humour bypass award of the day goes to you...

But anyway, there's no time like the present, so which other MP's are in currently in prison?

Dunno, Google won't tell me

The Rookie

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Chris Huhne and his ex-missus got 8 months each for a lot less lying.

Chris Huhne got 9 months (reduced from 12 for his guilty plea before trial), Vicky Pryce got 9 months.

On the face of it 3 months seems very lenient. There are lots of similar cases to be found but 3 months is only usually seen where the person has admitted the perverting offence following the first contact from the Police, not having lied continually and dragged it through a contested trial.

rjsterry

Stevo 666 wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Bally, you seem to have a bit of a thing for her.

It would appear that Bally has something in common with Corbyn then

Put it together with that post about the vice and the blowtorch and you have quite the image for a lunchtime.

Ben6899

rjsterry wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/29/labour-mp-fiona-onasanya-jailed-for-lying-speeding-ticket

Labour and the Conservatives have called for her to “do the decent thing” and resign immediately.

Just up clarify things, if you look into it she's no longer a labour mp and Labour is also calling for her to resign as an independent MP. All the responsible press sources are being accurate about get status. She's had the labour whip removed some time back.

If you don't like the guardian try the telegraph or other publication. They're all reporting this fact.

Particularly love the spurious Diane Abbott tie in. Bally, you seem to have a bit of a thing for her.

Bally seems more obsessed with Diane Abbott playing the race/gender card than Diane Abbott actually is...

slowbike

The Rookie wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Chris Huhne and his ex-missus got 8 months each for a lot less lying.

Chris Huhne got 9 months (reduced from 12 for his guilty plea before trial), Vicky Pryce got 9 months.

On the face of it 3 months seems very lenient. There are lots of similar cases to be found but 3 months is only usually seen where the person has admitted the perverting offence following the first contact from the Police, not having lied continually and dragged it through a contested trial.

Her brother received 10 months - I think the judge said that her recent diagnosis of MS was taken into account - despite the fact that it wouldn't affect her ability to serve the time.
3 months - means she's out in 6 weeks? Doesn't seem like a huge punishment in itself - although I guess she'll end up losing the post of MP and seems to have given up being a solicitor - but being based up in Peterborough, she'll be able to apply for a fruit/veg picking job to earn some money....

ballysmate

rjsterry wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/29/labour-mp-fiona-onasanya-jailed-for-lying-speeding-ticket

Labour and the Conservatives have called for her to “do the decent thing” and resign immediately.

Just up clarify things, if you look into it she's no longer a labour mp and Labour is also calling for her to resign as an independent MP. All the responsible press sources are being accurate about get status. She's had the labour whip removed some time back.

If you don't like the guardian try the telegraph or other publication. They're all reporting this fact.

Particularly love the spurious Diane Abbott tie in. Bally, you seem to have a bit of a thing for her.

I'm a big fan. She should be on prime time tv every night hosting a current affairs programme.

Regarding the black/woman jibe. It's Di's standard response.

Isn't she still a regular with Michael Portillo on that awful Andrew Neil programme?

Don't think she is on any more.
Labour party probably oiked her off.
Give me the chance to post this again. Owen Jones, Guardian columnist and Corbyn cheerleader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSC3RMstJl8

Lefties! Not a ****ing clue have they?

tangled_metal

Diane Abbott got kicked off the show with portillo and he's not on it much if at all now. It's still a male tory and female Labour mp though. I don't know if that's significant!

tangled_metal

Only sentences greater than 1 year results in an MP having to vacate their seat. Under that they have only been able to be recalled since 2015 legislation came into effect.

Matthewfalle

Ballysmate wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/29/labour-mp-fiona-onasanya-jailed-for-lying-speeding-ticket

Labour and the Conservatives have called for her to “do the decent thing” and resign immediately.

Just up clarify things, if you look into it she's no longer a labour mp and Labour is also calling for her to resign as an independent MP. All the responsible press sources are being accurate about get status. She's had the labour whip removed some time back.

If you don't like the guardian try the telegraph or other publication. They're all reporting this fact.

Particularly love the spurious Diane Abbott tie in. Bally, you seem to have a bit of a thing for her.

I'm a big fan. She should be on prime time tv every night hosting a current affairs programme.

Regarding the black/woman jibe. It's Di's standard response.

Isn't she still a regular with Michael Portillo on that awful Andrew Neil programme?

Don't think she is on any more.
Labour party probably oiked her off.
Give me the chance to post this again. Owen Jones, Guardian columnist and Corbyn cheerleader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSC3RMstJl8

Lefties! Not a ****ing clue have they?

and the Tories have done a great job recently haven't they.

and anytholing right wing, come to think of it. sterling work all round.

ballysmate

And the MFs whataboutery makes Diane and Owen's views more intelligent in which way?

tangled_metal

Owen is just another talking head who likes the sound of his own voice. There's plenty like that on TV. Politics of the individual is less important than their desire to be heard. Although the second video year came up after the linked one read funny. I'm just glad the dial stopped on walkout. The suicide n option was going too far!

Portillo was such a politician once. Now he's paid to talk while on a train. His perfect job!

Matthewfalle

Ballysmate wrote:

And the MFs whataboutery makes Diane and Owen's views more intelligent in which way?

not more intelligent.
not less intelligent.
none are better than the others.

joenobody

rjsterry wrote:

Then explain what she has got away with.

We're not talking about getting away with her crime, but the way she's behaved after the event - not resigning, which allows her to continue earning her salary when she can't actually do her job, and appealing so that her constituents are unable to do anything about it until likely after she's released. I mean, well played her, but show some integrity.

tyke999

She Lied, she got caught, she was found guilty, she was sentenced ....but keeps her job. !!!

What a great system we have.

rjsterry

Tyke999 wrote:

She Lied, she got caught, she was found guilty, she was sentenced ....but keeps her job. !!!

What a great system we have.

:roll:
Her constituents can recall her if they wish. But only they can 'sack' her. She is not employed in the normal sense.

rjsterry

JoeNobody wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Then explain what she has got away with.

We're not talking about getting away with her crime, but the way she's behaved after the event - not resigning, which allows her to continue earning her salary when she can't actually do her job, and appealing so that her constituents are unable to do anything about it until likely after she's released. I mean, well played her, but show some integrity.

Are we not? Should she not be allowed to appeal a conviction like everyone else? I think her behaviour is ridiculous, but she shouldn't have special treatment.

tangled_metal

What if she had grounds for appeal? Should she not exercise her legal rights until your indignance has be satisfied? She's following the rules set out in law.

She can't undergo a recall petition because of her appeal. She has the legal right to defend herself in criminal proceedings including a right of appeal if there are grounds. These are both the law aiui. If you want to choose to ignore the law then which laws can be ignored?

The only complaint is whether an MP should feel suitably moral to want to resign to concentrate on bdefending themselves. I personally think that would be good, others possibly don't agree.

tangled_metal

But that aside, does she not have legal rights? Should we ignore their rights if we don't like them?

Vino'sGhost

Ballysmate wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/29/labour-mp-fiona-onasanya-jailed-for-lying-speeding-ticket

Labour and the Conservatives have called for her to “do the decent thing” and resign immediately.

Just up clarify things, if you look into it she's no longer a labour mp and Labour is also calling for her to resign as an independent MP. All the responsible press sources are being accurate about get status. She's had the labour whip removed some time back.

If you don't like the guardian try the telegraph or other publication. They're all reporting this fact.

Particularly love the spurious Diane Abbott tie in. Bally, you seem to have a bit of a thing for her.

I'm a big fan. She should be on prime time tv every night hosting a current affairs programme.

Regarding the black/woman jibe. It's Di's standard response.

Isn't she still a regular with Michael Portillo on that awful Andrew Neil programme?

Don't think she is on any more.
Labour party probably oiked her off.
Give me the chance to post this again. Owen Jones, Guardian columnist and Corbyn cheerleader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSC3RMstJl8

Lefties! Not a ****ing clue have they?

Does that moron have a job at the guardian?????

Vino'sGhost

Tangled Metal wrote:

But that aside, does she not have legal rights? Should we ignore their rights if we don't like them?

She has her rights and no doubt she can quote them ad infinitum . Responsibility and moral obligation seem to be something that doesn't concern her. She's scum.

trivial_poursuivant

Stevo 666 wrote:

Imposter wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

But anyway, there's no time like the present, so which other MP's are in currently in prison?

How is that relevant?

Because there's no time like the present as mentioned in my post above...

Why don't you start a petition. Get enough signatures and get it debated in parliament. Or get your local MP to table a private members bill in getting the law changed.

But since nearly all MPs will close ranks - especially the Tories - you have zero chance of that law getting through.

Stevo_666

Trivial poursuivant wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Imposter wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

But anyway, there's no time like the present, so which other MP's are in currently in prison?

How is that relevant?

Because there's no time like the present as mentioned in my post above...

Why don't you start a petition. Get enough signatures and get it debated in parliament. Or get your local MP to table a private members bill in getting the law changed.

But since nearly all MPs will close ranks - especially the Tories - you have zero chance of that law getting through.

Missing the point - I was saying that current behaviour of MPs within the parties is far more relevant that that which happened years or decades ago - as in the examples quoted by Brakeless in his little rant.

Stevo_666

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Ballysmate wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/29/labour-mp-fiona-onasanya-jailed-for-lying-speeding-ticket

Labour and the Conservatives have called for her to “do the decent thing” and resign immediately.

Just up clarify things, if you look into it she's no longer a labour mp and Labour is also calling for her to resign as an independent MP. All the responsible press sources are being accurate about get status. She's had the labour whip removed some time back.

If you don't like the guardian try the telegraph or other publication. They're all reporting this fact.

Particularly love the spurious Diane Abbott tie in. Bally, you seem to have a bit of a thing for her.

I'm a big fan. She should be on prime time tv every night hosting a current affairs programme.

Regarding the black/woman jibe. It's Di's standard response.

Isn't she still a regular with Michael Portillo on that awful Andrew Neil programme?

Don't think she is on any more.
Labour party probably oiked her off.
Give me the chance to post this again. Owen Jones, Guardian columnist and Corbyn cheerleader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSC3RMstJl8

Lefties! Not a ****ing clue have they?

Does that moron have a job at the guardian?????

He does indeed. The sort of person who really should get more air time so we know what they're really like.

slowmart

Tangled Metal wrote:

But that aside, does she not have legal rights? Should we ignore their rights if we don't like them?

By all means exercise your legal rights but then consider your moral obligation to your constituency and how you can perform that obligation while incarcerated? It just reaffirms her flawed personality that was evident during the court case. Lies and misdirection.

No doubt she will end up on some third rate celubutard reality tv show on itv27 or something of that ilk.

trivial_poursuivant

Stevo 666 wrote:

Trivial poursuivant wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Imposter wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

But anyway, there's no time like the present, so which other MP's are in currently in prison?

How is that relevant?

Because there's no time like the present as mentioned in my post above...

Why don't you start a petition. Get enough signatures and get it debated in parliament. Or get your local MP to table a private members bill in getting the law changed.

But since nearly all MPs will close ranks - especially the Tories - you have zero chance of that law getting through.

Missing the point - I was saying that current behaviour of MPs within the parties is far more relevant that that which happened years or decades ago - as in the examples quoted by Brakeless in his little rant.

Not missing the point at all. There is a precedent for this sort of thing. That's how parliament and the law works. Yes, the behaviour of some MPs has been appalling but since there is no statutory way of forcing an MP to step down involuntary unless they are imprisoned for more than a year (Representation of People's Act 1981)

Laws can only be changed by parliament. So as I said. If they close ranks to cover their own arses then it's not getting through. Not now not ever.

Stevo_666

Trivial poursuivant wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Trivial poursuivant wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Imposter wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

But anyway, there's no time like the present, so which other MP's are in currently in prison?

How is that relevant?

Because there's no time like the present as mentioned in my post above...

Why don't you start a petition. Get enough signatures and get it debated in parliament. Or get your local MP to table a private members bill in getting the law changed.

But since nearly all MPs will close ranks - especially the Tories - you have zero chance of that law getting through.

Missing the point - I was saying that current behaviour of MPs within the parties is far more relevant that that which happened years or decades ago - as in the examples quoted by Brakeless in his little rant.

Not missing the point at all. There is a precedent for this sort of thing. That's how parliament and the law works. Yes, the behaviour of some MPs has been appalling but since there is no statutory way of forcing an MP to step down involuntary unless they are imprisoned for more than a year (Representation of People's Act 1981)

Laws can only be changed by parliament. So as I said. If they close ranks to cover their own arses then it's not getting through. Not now not ever.

No, you are missing my point. You made a different point...