More depressing drugs news
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"90-year-old fails doping test, stripped of age group title and world record
In bizarre news, 90-year-old American Carl Grove has been stripped of a world record set at the Masters Track Nationals in mid-2018 after a urine test revealed the presence of epitrenbolone. A USADA press release reads as follows:
“While investigating the source of his positive test, it was also determined that a supplement Grove was using prior to July 11, 2018 was contaminated with clomiphene.
“During USADA’s investigation into the circumstances of his case, Grove provided USADA with information which established that the source of his positive test was more likely than not caused by contaminated meat consumed the evening before competing on July 11, 2018. Prior to consuming the meat, Grove had tested negative for prohibited substances during an in-competition test on July 10, 2018.”
Apparently he also tested positive for Werther's Originals....
"90-year-old fails doping test, stripped of age group title and world record
In bizarre news, 90-year-old American Carl Grove has been stripped of a world record set at the Masters Track Nationals in mid-2018 after a urine test revealed the presence of epitrenbolone. A USADA press release reads as follows:
“While investigating the source of his positive test, it was also determined that a supplement Grove was using prior to July 11, 2018 was contaminated with clomiphene.
“During USADA’s investigation into the circumstances of his case, Grove provided USADA with information which established that the source of his positive test was more likely than not caused by contaminated meat consumed the evening before competing on July 11, 2018. Prior to consuming the meat, Grove had tested negative for prohibited substances during an in-competition test on July 10, 2018.”
Apparently he also tested positive for Werther's Originals....
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I'd start one but ICBA.
No but yes ...
Not overly bothered ... the age category competitions/records are just another filter to enable everyone to "win" ... although some of the times/distances set by "elderly" people is pretty impressive ... so not really bothered that someone wants to cheat ...
But - pleased that it's picked up and dealt with - because it's not really on is it ... if you're going to compete - at least be honest about it....
Have a friend who played in goal to a decent standard at hockey. We're late 40's now and a few years back he realised he was in with a chance of playing for the national squad for his age (masters or whatever it's called).
He chose not to pursue it because only making the squad on the basis that those who actually were the best have hung up their boots having played at a national level in their prime was a daft pursuit.
Nothing but admiration for anybody riding in their 90's but who cares about records. It's a last man standing game.
But how many people of that age aren't on meds?
Thing is with anything "vets", you're the best you're ever likely to be when you first qualify for it . . .
That leads to the obvious questions about gender and para sports. Do I have the answers, not necessarily,it's a nuanced issue and different people would draw lines in different places?
Suffice to say it does get murky when para sports get reclassified and now so and so who was a medal contender is now an also ran.
The fastest 90 yo... not sure it means anything.
Don't worry, i'm getting my coat.
Of course it does it means the fastest 90 year old. I played football, I was never going to be the very best or play for Brazil or Real Madrid but I still took pleasure from winning local leagues. I'm sure no veteran cycle champions think they should get equal billing with Peter Sagan but if sporting achievements mean anything then age group wins mean something.
It mentions that in the OP, it actually says USADA considered it more likely than not that it was due to contaminated meat.
sorry missed that bit, I thought the way id I read it originally he popped for a known drug use, like they had a case in the states not so long ago in one of the other veteran/amateur cats, its just saw the article in the Guardian today, and then it seemed to spread onto some of the cycling sites too, and the way it was presented was like a new interview,as he talks about not quitting, going for the hour record and that there should be an age cutoff for drug testing and so on.