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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,634
    I think, given the recent laws passed on protesting, the immigration bill and their attitude towards immigrants, they are already fascists.

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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,952
    Robbed of one Portillo moment anyway...

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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,952
    Just one more of these, and you could almost see a pattern emerging...

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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,477
    *chuckle*

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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,477
    3 years ago today

    Feels like much longer


    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,302
    Boris breaking his own rules? I'm shocked again.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,490
    tailwindhome said:

    3 years ago today

    Feels like much longer


    God it seemed so important at the time, but now I mean who gives a shit?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,615
    First.Aspect said:

    tailwindhome said:

    3 years ago today

    Feels like much longer


    God it seemed so important at the time, but now I mean who gives a censored ?
    I think it was at this point that the tories lost the court of public opinion.
    Even if he wasn't actually a tory.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,490
    pblakeney said:

    First.Aspect said:

    tailwindhome said:

    3 years ago today

    Feels like much longer


    God it seemed so important at the time, but now I mean who gives a censored ?
    I think it was at this point that the tories lost the court of public opinion.
    Even if he wasn't actually a tory.
    I do remember feeling that I was having my intelligence assaulted.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,952
    From a former editor of the Telegraph...



    Britain therefore has a monstrous problem. Before Sunak turned up in Downing Street, it was just about possible to explain the collapse of integrity after 2019 in terms of Johnson’s incorrigible personal dishonesty. But Sunak appears to be yet another compulsively dishonest prime minister. This suggests a deep-rooted structural problem not just in the Conservative party but also in the House of Commons.

    Hence the importance of the ongoing House of Commons privileges committee investigation into allegations that Boris Johnson misled parliament about parties held in Downing Street during lockdown. The committee cannot reach a conclusion about Johnson without making a wider judgment about whether a prime minister should be permitted to mislead the Commons. So the question will arise: what about Sunak?

    Sunak’s pledge to bring back trust in British politics, reasserted so many times, appears itself to be insincere. This brings personal discredit, makes good government impossible and demonstrates how deeply political deceit has become embedded in our national life. Something has gone horribly wrong with the British system of government.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,687
    pblakeney said:

    First.Aspect said:

    tailwindhome said:

    3 years ago today

    Feels like much longer


    God it seemed so important at the time, but now I mean who gives a censored ?
    I think it was at this point that the tories lost the court of public opinion.
    Even if he wasn't actually a tory.
    I don’t think it was entirely coincidental that things started falling apart for the Tories after he was pushed out. I suspect he helped point various journalists to various skeletons
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,615
    Pross said:

    pblakeney said:

    First.Aspect said:

    tailwindhome said:

    3 years ago today

    Feels like much longer


    God it seemed so important at the time, but now I mean who gives a censored ?
    I think it was at this point that the tories lost the court of public opinion.
    Even if he wasn't actually a tory.
    I don’t think it was entirely coincidental that things started falling apart for the Tories after he was pushed out. I suspect he helped point various journalists to various skeletons
    Beware who you stab in the back. ;)
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,918
    Notwithstanding his reputation for vindictive pettiness, I think it is just the guy at the top being far, far out of his depth.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited May 2023
    Inflation figures still ugly. Core inflation even higher too..

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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,952
    Gosh, he gets more Trumpian by the day.

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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,952
    Perhaps I should have said "by the hour".

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Worth adding he's by far not the only person still being prosecuted for rules broken during lockdowns.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,004
    I suppose Whitehall civil servants have to keep themselves busy somehow.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,302
    Stevo_666 said:

    I suppose Whitehall civil servants have to keep themselves busy somehow.

    It's in their code of conduct to report potentially illegal activity.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,302
    Sunak says no need to look into Suella's latest (or is it last but one?). There'll be another rule she decides doesn't apply to her soon, so no rush.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,687
    Stevo_666 said:

    I suppose Whitehall civil servants have to keep themselves busy somehow.

    Doing the work they’ve been instructed to by the politicians? This is all coming out through the Public Inquiry process instructed by the Government isn’t it?
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,952
    Stevo_666 said:

    I suppose Whitehall civil servants have to keep themselves busy somehow.


    Surprised they found the time given they were having to fact-check Braverman too.



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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,004
    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I suppose Whitehall civil servants have to keep themselves busy somehow.

    It's in their code of conduct to report potentially illegal activity.
    The timing was quite fortuitous, coming just a day after the deadline for all ministerial submissions into the C19 inquiry. But I'm sure that there were no ulterior motives.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,004
    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I suppose Whitehall civil servants have to keep themselves busy somehow.


    Surprised they found the time given they were having to fact-check Braverman too.



    And the outcome of that was what?
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,952
    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    I suppose Whitehall civil servants have to keep themselves busy somehow.


    Surprised they found the time given they were having to fact-check Braverman too.



    And the outcome of that was what?

    Probably the same as all the times that Sunak & Johnson have been asked to correct the record on Hansard when they've misstated statistics in Parliament.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Current consensus is that Rishi's promise for inflation to be halved by the end of the year is looking less likely than likely now.
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  • wallace_and_gromit
    wallace_and_gromit Posts: 3,699
    rick_chasey said:

    Current consensus is that Rishi's promise for inflation to be halved by the end of the year is looking less likely than likely now.

    At which point it will become a very important issue to those that decried the promise when made as meaningless, given what was supposedly "baked into" future inflation rates.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    wallace_and_gromit said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Current consensus is that Rishi's promise for inflation to be halved by the end of the year is looking less likely than likely now.

    At which point it will become a very important issue to those that decried the promise when made as meaningless, given what was supposedly "baked into" future inflation rates.
    If he was a proper Tory he'd just cut gov't spending to reach the target, of course.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,090
    edited May 2023
    rick_chasey said:

    Current consensus is that Rishi's promise for inflation to be halved by the end of the year is looking less likely than likely now.

    The most recent report on my desk forecast 3.5% by Dec, but then they were expecting an increase of 0.54% in April as opposed to the actual increase of 1.16%, so I guess the next forecast will be higher.

    Gilt rates are now notably higher than treasuries. Possibly by more than during Truss's period in charge.

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