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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,623
    edited May 2021

    pblakeney said:

    Jezyboy said:

    pblakeney said:

    Just me that thinks most will go on a spending splurge once the shackles are off then?

    Given how busy local tradesmen seem to be currently, my anecdotal non evidence would suggest those who are cash flush have been spending their resturant and holidays budget on home improvement.
    Indeed. For all this talk of people going out again and splurging what restaurants and bars etc have lost that can not be recovered is time. For all the days closed they can't just magically produce extra tables to supply meals that were never eaten and likewise those going out can not eat and drink twice as much to make up for lost business. The spare cash is already being spent on other goods and services from what I can tell.
    Must be different circles. All I hear is people planning to go to this restaurant, that restaurant, this pub, that pub, this place on holiday and got to get back there...
    What you are talking about is people spending what they would have last year, just on different things. I read it as people are going to celebrate the recovered freedom in spades.
    No-one my age is really thinking that far ahead to be honest. Still August & later for most of us getting the 2nd jab. The idea of "celebrating" seems a long way off. It's lots of "We should do something in Sept/Oct" at least amongst my circle of friends and colleagues.
    Yeah, I did originally say "when the shackles are off". We are not there yet.
    As an example, most on here are not going abroad on holiday this year but I bet you all have great plans for next year.
    Of course mankind stupidity could drag Covid on for a while yet. Fingers crossed it doesn't.
    PS - I was also referring to worldwide markets, not just the local high street.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    Jezyboy said:

    pblakeney said:

    Just me that thinks most will go on a spending splurge once the shackles are off then?

    Given how busy local tradesmen seem to be currently, my anecdotal non evidence would suggest those who are cash flush have been spending their resturant and holidays budget on home improvement.
    Indeed. For all this talk of people going out again and splurging what restaurants and bars etc have lost that can not be recovered is time. For all the days closed they can't just magically produce extra tables to supply meals that were never eaten and likewise those going out can not eat and drink twice as much to make up for lost business. The spare cash is already being spent on other goods and services from what I can tell.
    Must be different circles. All I hear is people planning to go to this restaurant, that restaurant, this pub, that pub, this place on holiday and got to get back there...
    What you are talking about is people spending what they would have last year, just on different things. I read it as people are going to celebrate the recovered freedom in spades.
    No-one my age is really thinking that far ahead to be honest. Still August & later for most of us getting the 2nd jab. The idea of "celebrating" seems a long way off. It's lots of "We should do something in Sept/Oct" at least amongst my circle of friends and colleagues.
    Yeah, I did originally say "when the shackles are off". We are not there yet.
    As an example, most on here are not going abroad on holiday this year but I bet you all have great plans for next year.
    Of course mankind stupidity could drag Covid on for a while yet. Fingers crossed it doesn't.
    PS - I was also referring to worldwide markets, not just the local high street.
    I have no plans for next year.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited May 2021
    Chatting to an Italian friend last night.

    Was laughing at the BoJo scandal. Was saying the same thing happened to Berlusconi. Later on once he realised he had impunity he would go on to be gifted a mansion as did others in his party.

    The italification continues
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,623

    pblakeney said:

    pblakeney said:

    Jezyboy said:

    pblakeney said:

    Just me that thinks most will go on a spending splurge once the shackles are off then?

    Given how busy local tradesmen seem to be currently, my anecdotal non evidence would suggest those who are cash flush have been spending their resturant and holidays budget on home improvement.
    Indeed. For all this talk of people going out again and splurging what restaurants and bars etc have lost that can not be recovered is time. For all the days closed they can't just magically produce extra tables to supply meals that were never eaten and likewise those going out can not eat and drink twice as much to make up for lost business. The spare cash is already being spent on other goods and services from what I can tell.
    Must be different circles. All I hear is people planning to go to this restaurant, that restaurant, this pub, that pub, this place on holiday and got to get back there...
    What you are talking about is people spending what they would have last year, just on different things. I read it as people are going to celebrate the recovered freedom in spades.
    No-one my age is really thinking that far ahead to be honest. Still August & later for most of us getting the 2nd jab. The idea of "celebrating" seems a long way off. It's lots of "We should do something in Sept/Oct" at least amongst my circle of friends and colleagues.
    Yeah, I did originally say "when the shackles are off". We are not there yet.
    As an example, most on here are not going abroad on holiday this year but I bet you all have great plans for next year.
    Of course mankind stupidity could drag Covid on for a while yet. Fingers crossed it doesn't.
    PS - I was also referring to worldwide markets, not just the local high street.
    I have no plans for next year.
    I do hope more are like you, and I am wrong.
    It will make booking my holidays so much easier. 😉
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,090

    rjsterry said:

    At the same time we are asked to believe that Johnson was unaware that someone else had stepped in and settled the bill for his fiancé's interior design tastes *without him realising*. It almost makes Cummings claim of an eye test seem plausible.

    Wasn't he in hospital at the time?
    No, it was settled in October.

    He had £200,000 worth of work done without knowing how it was going to be paid for, and the one who gets hacked over the coals is the official who didn't tell him that someone else has paid it.

    He really is chaotic.
    I've read the relevant bit of the report now, and you are right that it was settled in October although there were a number of settlements along the way including the cabinet office, the conservative party, the donor and finally Boris.

    The work commenced around the time he was in hospital.

    I don't think your summary is particularly accurate though. He had the work done on the basis a blind trust would be created to pay for it. This proved not to be possible and all concerned say that no one told Boris it wasn't possible. He has been criticised for not following up on the process, but given a pass due to the circumstances.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,966
    Rejoice, rejoice.

    I'm not quite sure how a wedding at Westminster Cathedral counts as 'low key', but can't we all be happy anyway?


  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    To be fair she does look genuinely happy
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,966

    To be fair she does look genuinely happy


    I guess she's not marrying him for his money... others' money, maybe...
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,090

    Rejoice, rejoice.

    I'm not quite sure how a wedding at Westminster Cathedral counts as 'low key', but can't we all be happy anyway?


    Cathedral is a lot lower key than the abbey.

    I'm intrigued how they kept it secret given the requirement to provide two weeks notice. Presumably no one who saw the notice was inclined to tell the press.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,193
    Yep, its great to see the PM finally get hitched to Borris.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,626
    It's a Catholic church isn't it? Which one is the Catholic?
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    W

    Rejoice, rejoice.

    I'm not quite sure how a wedding at Westminster Cathedral counts as 'low key', but can't we all be happy anyway?


    Cathedral is a lot lower key than the abbey.

    I'm intrigued how they kept it secret given the requirement to provide two weeks notice. Presumably no one who saw the notice was inclined to tell the press.
    One assumes they were concerned that some would think him unsuitable for a Catholic wedding
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    Rejoice, rejoice.

    I'm not quite sure how a wedding at Westminster Cathedral counts as 'low key', but can't we all be happy anyway?


    Cathedral is a lot lower key than the abbey.

    I'm intrigued how they kept it secret given the requirement to provide two weeks notice. Presumably no one who saw the notice was inclined to tell the press.
    Or there’s an agreement that if the PM wants to keep it on the down low the press oblige.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,691

    It's a Catholic church isn't it? Which one is the Catholic?

    Thought that too. Hasn't Johnson been divorced or has he never been committed enough to the mothers of any of his other kids?
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    edited May 2021
    So we're to get a new £200m royal yacht, well actually drop the royal bit as Buck House don't want it.

    Seems like another fanciful idea like the garden bridge.
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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,193
    edited May 2021
    The yacht it probably a hundred and fifty million and it's an extra fifty for Carrie's furnishings.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    elbowloh said:

    So we're to get a new £200 royal yacht, well actually drop the royal bit as Buck House don't want it.

    Seems like another fanciful idea like the garden bridge.

    I thought there was a bridge to Northern Ireland too
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,691
    elbowloh said:

    So we're to get a new £200 royal yacht, well actually drop the royal bit as Buck House don't want it.

    Seems like another fanciful idea like the garden bridge.

    £200 for a yacht seems good value, I'd have one at that price!
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Pross said:

    elbowloh said:

    So we're to get a new £200 royal yacht, well actually drop the royal bit as Buck House don't want it.

    Seems like another fanciful idea like the garden bridge.

    £200 for a yacht seems good value, I'd have one at that price!
    They are suckering you in so you get saddled with the high mooring fees.

    In this case it is best to kick the gift horse in the mouth
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,922
    Pross said:

    It's a Catholic church isn't it? Which one is the Catholic?

    Thought that too. Hasn't Johnson been divorced or has he never been committed enough to the mothers of any of his other kids?
    They both are. Johnson's previous two marriages are not recognised by the Catholic Church hence this counting as his 'first'.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,623
    rjsterry said:

    Pross said:

    It's a Catholic church isn't it? Which one is the Catholic?

    Thought that too. Hasn't Johnson been divorced or has he never been committed enough to the mothers of any of his other kids?
    They both are. Johnson's previous two marriages are not recognised by the Catholic Church hence this counting as his 'first'.
    Another illustration of how silly religion is.
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,626
    edited May 2021
    Seems Boris was baptised a catholic but confirmed a protestant, and as RJST says, his 2 previous marriages were protestant ones, and therefore though obviously legal and recognised as such by the catholic church, don't count as catholic marriages, hence free to marry in a catholic church.
    Carrie is the 'proper' catholic.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,691
    rjsterry said:

    Pross said:

    It's a Catholic church isn't it? Which one is the Catholic?

    Thought that too. Hasn't Johnson been divorced or has he never been committed enough to the mothers of any of his other kids?
    They both are. Johnson's previous two marriages are not recognised by the Catholic Church hence this counting as his 'first'.
    Even as someone raised in a Catholic family, attended Catholic primary and secondary schools and got married in a Catholic church I find their rules on this quite confusing!
  • rick_chasey
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,691
    Dan Walker coming across like Paxman interviewing Donaldson. I really don't understand how someone as utterly incompetent has held cabinet positions in several Governments. He doesn't even seem to be capable of climbing the greasy pole.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Labour is still the party of the workers (literally), the Tories the retired.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,302
    edited June 2021
    There's another story about tax efficiency by Microsoft this time. Profits declared by an Ireland based company of almost the equivalent of Ireland's GDP, corporation tax of zero euros. I think this was on this thread before when it was Apple (amazingly to a slightly lesser extent)?

    This arrangement still doesn't feel entirely beneficial to the world economy.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    There's another story about tax efficiency by Microsoft this time. Profits declared by an Ireland based company of almost the equivalent of Ireland's GDP, corporation tax of zero euros. I think this was on this thread before when it was Apple (amazingly to a slightly lesser extent)?

    This arrangement still doesn't feel entirely beneficial to the world economy.

    This is what Biden is trying to stop. Telegraph is up in arms about it (I wonder why)