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I agree with you. Lots of people were having a shit time and many of those believed the lie that it was because of the EU, including immigration/freedom of movement.rjsterry said:
I think you have it back to front. Things were not great for a lot of people. Membership of the EU was the made up reason for things not being great.surrey_commuter said:
They wanted less foreign in their lives then made up a bunch of reasons that sounded less racistrjsterry said:
Sure, but those emotions didn't spontaneously emerge from nowhere. A large part of the country were sufficiently unhappy with their lot to go out and vote, when they usually don't bother.surrey_commuter said:
Brexit was an emotional decision that was then post rationalised.rick_chasey said:Austerity was a political failure and policy makers at the time failed to understand the dangers of it and what the new economic environment was.
The reaction to the previous recession was far far too reliant on monetary policy both in the UK and in Europe and the governments abdicated any responsibility for the recovery through fiscal policy, so rather than getting the "sunny days" to "fix the roof" you got a serious of cloudy days with the potential of rain.
No we are in a position where monetary policy cannot do anything as the reinflation never happened because of austerity.
If this all seems too theoretical, pick your "Brexit is a vote from people who feel left behind by rich southerners", you can very easily see the cost of austerity.
The whole "soverignty" is a nebulous concept as well. Moan about non-elected officials having so much power in the EU and swap that for someone like Dominic Cummings ffs0 -
If you were having a bad time on a boat why would you think kicking a hole in the bottom would improve things?elbowloh said:
I agree with you. Lots of people were having a censored time and many of those believed the lie that it was because of the EU, including immigration/freedom of movement.rjsterry said:
I think you have it back to front. Things were not great for a lot of people. Membership of the EU was the made up reason for things not being great.surrey_commuter said:
They wanted less foreign in their lives then made up a bunch of reasons that sounded less racistrjsterry said:
Sure, but those emotions didn't spontaneously emerge from nowhere. A large part of the country were sufficiently unhappy with their lot to go out and vote, when they usually don't bother.surrey_commuter said:
Brexit was an emotional decision that was then post rationalised.rick_chasey said:Austerity was a political failure and policy makers at the time failed to understand the dangers of it and what the new economic environment was.
The reaction to the previous recession was far far too reliant on monetary policy both in the UK and in Europe and the governments abdicated any responsibility for the recovery through fiscal policy, so rather than getting the "sunny days" to "fix the roof" you got a serious of cloudy days with the potential of rain.
No we are in a position where monetary policy cannot do anything as the reinflation never happened because of austerity.
If this all seems too theoretical, pick your "Brexit is a vote from people who feel left behind by rich southerners", you can very easily see the cost of austerity.
The whole "soverignty" is a nebulous concept as well. Moan about non-elected officials having so much power in the EU and swap that for someone like Dominic Cummings ffs0 -
Because you were told the boat builders would get £350m a week to fix you boat.surrey_commuter said:
If you were having a bad time on a boat why would you think kicking a hole in the bottom would improve things?elbowloh said:
I agree with you. Lots of people were having a censored time and many of those believed the lie that it was because of the EU, including immigration/freedom of movement.rjsterry said:
I think you have it back to front. Things were not great for a lot of people. Membership of the EU was the made up reason for things not being great.surrey_commuter said:
They wanted less foreign in their lives then made up a bunch of reasons that sounded less racistrjsterry said:
Sure, but those emotions didn't spontaneously emerge from nowhere. A large part of the country were sufficiently unhappy with their lot to go out and vote, when they usually don't bother.surrey_commuter said:
Brexit was an emotional decision that was then post rationalised.rick_chasey said:Austerity was a political failure and policy makers at the time failed to understand the dangers of it and what the new economic environment was.
The reaction to the previous recession was far far too reliant on monetary policy both in the UK and in Europe and the governments abdicated any responsibility for the recovery through fiscal policy, so rather than getting the "sunny days" to "fix the roof" you got a serious of cloudy days with the potential of rain.
No we are in a position where monetary policy cannot do anything as the reinflation never happened because of austerity.
If this all seems too theoretical, pick your "Brexit is a vote from people who feel left behind by rich southerners", you can very easily see the cost of austerity.
The whole "soverignty" is a nebulous concept as well. Moan about non-elected officials having so much power in the EU and swap that for someone like Dominic Cummings ffs0 -
I thought that was going to the NHS rather than those who felt hard done byelbowloh said:
Because you were told the boat builders would get £350m a week to fix you boat.surrey_commuter said:
If you were having a bad time on a boat why would you think kicking a hole in the bottom would improve things?elbowloh said:
I agree with you. Lots of people were having a censored time and many of those believed the lie that it was because of the EU, including immigration/freedom of movement.rjsterry said:
I think you have it back to front. Things were not great for a lot of people. Membership of the EU was the made up reason for things not being great.surrey_commuter said:
They wanted less foreign in their lives then made up a bunch of reasons that sounded less racistrjsterry said:
Sure, but those emotions didn't spontaneously emerge from nowhere. A large part of the country were sufficiently unhappy with their lot to go out and vote, when they usually don't bother.surrey_commuter said:
Brexit was an emotional decision that was then post rationalised.rick_chasey said:Austerity was a political failure and policy makers at the time failed to understand the dangers of it and what the new economic environment was.
The reaction to the previous recession was far far too reliant on monetary policy both in the UK and in Europe and the governments abdicated any responsibility for the recovery through fiscal policy, so rather than getting the "sunny days" to "fix the roof" you got a serious of cloudy days with the potential of rain.
No we are in a position where monetary policy cannot do anything as the reinflation never happened because of austerity.
If this all seems too theoretical, pick your "Brexit is a vote from people who feel left behind by rich southerners", you can very easily see the cost of austerity.
The whole "soverignty" is a nebulous concept as well. Moan about non-elected officials having so much power in the EU and swap that for someone like Dominic Cummings ffs0 -
BoE's Saunders says negative rates may be best tool
LONDON, Feb 18 (Reuters) - Bank of England policymaker Michael Saunders said cutting interest rates below zero could well prove the best tool for the central bank under some future circumstances, but the BoE did not need to decide on this yet.
Saunders said in December that negative interest rates could be a useful tool, and on Thursday he said interest rates below their current 0.1% would be the most effective way to lower the yield curve in financial markets, which drives borrowing costs.
This month the BoE gave banks six months to prepare for a possible decision to cut rates below zero.
“As to whether it’s desirable, whether it’s appropriate to achieve our remit to stabilise inflation, that would be a judgement to take at the time. It is not one we need to make yet,” Saunders said at an event hosted by the Resolution Foundation think tank."
https://www.reuters.com/article/britain-boe-saunders-negative/boes-saunders-says-negative-rates-may-be-best-tool-idUSS8N2JN09S0 -
I can't get my head around 'ZIRP' becoming the new norm, let alone suggestions of 'NIRP'.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/negative-interest-rate-policy-nirp.asp
Crazy times.0 -
If from you're point of view you are already in the water with sharks circling, someone telling you not to make things worse might seem a bit patronising.surrey_commuter said:
If you were having a bad time on a boat why would you think kicking a hole in the bottom would improve things?elbowloh said:
I agree with you. Lots of people were having a censored time and many of those believed the lie that it was because of the EU, including immigration/freedom of movement.rjsterry said:
I think you have it back to front. Things were not great for a lot of people. Membership of the EU was the made up reason for things not being great.surrey_commuter said:
They wanted less foreign in their lives then made up a bunch of reasons that sounded less racistrjsterry said:
Sure, but those emotions didn't spontaneously emerge from nowhere. A large part of the country were sufficiently unhappy with their lot to go out and vote, when they usually don't bother.surrey_commuter said:
Brexit was an emotional decision that was then post rationalised.rick_chasey said:Austerity was a political failure and policy makers at the time failed to understand the dangers of it and what the new economic environment was.
The reaction to the previous recession was far far too reliant on monetary policy both in the UK and in Europe and the governments abdicated any responsibility for the recovery through fiscal policy, so rather than getting the "sunny days" to "fix the roof" you got a serious of cloudy days with the potential of rain.
No we are in a position where monetary policy cannot do anything as the reinflation never happened because of austerity.
If this all seems too theoretical, pick your "Brexit is a vote from people who feel left behind by rich southerners", you can very easily see the cost of austerity.
The whole "soverignty" is a nebulous concept as well. Moan about non-elected officials having so much power in the EU and swap that for someone like Dominic Cummings ffs1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Anything new?
Thought not...."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Spot the non sequitur:pblakeney said:Ms. Patel's jacket is on a shaky hook.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56125796
"A government spokesperson said: "The prime minister has full confidence in the home secretary and considers this matter now closed. It would be inappropriate for us to comment further on live legal matters."0 -
A close aide of Boris Johnson is reported to have left Downing Street in the latest blow to Vote Leave influence in the heart of government.
Reports by The Times and Sky News suggested that Oliver Lewis had quit as head of the No 10 Union unit following tensions with new arrivals in Mr Johnson’s team.
Mr Lewis’s departure follows the removal in November of senior adviser Dominic Cummings and director of communications Lee Cain, who he worked alongside during the 2016 EU referendum campaign.
Lewis was a key figure alongside Lord Frost in negotiating the Christmas Eve Trade and Cooperation Agreement with the EU, which secured tariff and quota-free trade following the UK’s departure from the single market and customs union, but saddled British companies with rafts of onerous new bureaucracy.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/oliver-lewis-brexit-boris-johnson-downing-street-b1804860.html0 -
Going to court though, so not closed.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
All is not well.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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Motorists will be paid up to £3,000 to give up their cars under new plans designed to improve air quality in built-up areas, The Times has learnt.
For the first time, drivers of the most polluting cars will receive public money to surrender their vehicle in favour of “credits” that can be spent on public transport, bicycles, electric scooters, car clubs and taxis.
The scheme is designed to reduce car dependency in cities, leading to lower levels of congestion and air pollution. A trial programme will be launched in Coventry in the spring, aimed specifically at drivers of the most polluting vehicles — diesel cars built before 2016 and petrol models built before 2006.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/drivers-to-receive-3-000-credit-for-taking-their-cars-off-the-road-zzzwpj6gb0 -
Just don't mention the new coal mine.focuszing723 said:Motorists will be paid up to £3,000 to give up their cars under new plans designed to improve air quality in built-up areas, The Times has learnt.
For the first time, drivers of the most polluting cars will receive public money to surrender their vehicle in favour of “credits” that can be spent on public transport, bicycles, electric scooters, car clubs and taxis.
The scheme is designed to reduce car dependency in cities, leading to lower levels of congestion and air pollution. A trial programme will be launched in Coventry in the spring, aimed specifically at drivers of the most polluting vehicles — diesel cars built before 2016 and petrol models built before 2006.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/drivers-to-receive-3-000-credit-for-taking-their-cars-off-the-road-zzzwpj6gb1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Exactly, nothing new. But I was referring more to the endless loop of whingeingJezyboy said:
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I wonder what time scale Carrie has planned for coming out of lockdown? Hopefully it starts to relax before Easter.0
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focuszing723 said:
I wonder what time scale Carrie has planned for coming out of lockdown? Hopefully it starts to relax before Easter.
Isn't it great to have taken back control from the undemocratic EU?0 -
Wilfred's first birthday party will be at end of April.0
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Mathew Symonds, said of himself in 1996 that he was an economic liberal, believing in the market, but also in individual liberty and freedom. He wrote that ...the only way in which you can find efficient and humane solutions to problems is to give people as much information and as much power over their own lives as possible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Symonds0 -
I am surprised I didn’t know that, is it not usually reportedfocuszing723 said:Mathew Symonds, said of himself in 1996 that he was an economic liberal, believing in the market, but also in individual liberty and freedom. He wrote that ...the only way in which you can find efficient and humane solutions to problems is to give people as much information and as much power over their own lives as possible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Symonds0 -
Yeah, not that it matters, but I thought his background was interesting.surrey_commuter said:
I am surprised I didn’t know that, is it not usually reportedfocuszing723 said:Mathew Symonds, said of himself in 1996 that he was an economic liberal, believing in the market, but also in individual liberty and freedom. He wrote that ...the only way in which you can find efficient and humane solutions to problems is to give people as much information and as much power over their own lives as possible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Symonds0 -
New coal mine?rjsterry said:
Just don't mention the new coal mine.focuszing723 said:Motorists will be paid up to £3,000 to give up their cars under new plans designed to improve air quality in built-up areas, The Times has learnt.
For the first time, drivers of the most polluting cars will receive public money to surrender their vehicle in favour of “credits” that can be spent on public transport, bicycles, electric scooters, car clubs and taxis.
The scheme is designed to reduce car dependency in cities, leading to lower levels of congestion and air pollution. A trial programme will be launched in Coventry in the spring, aimed specifically at drivers of the most polluting vehicles — diesel cars built before 2016 and petrol models built before 2006.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/drivers-to-receive-3-000-credit-for-taking-their-cars-off-the-road-zzzwpj6gb
People pay lots of tax on fuel for their cars and by the other hand it's going to be given away, congestion is a fair point though.
I would like to see at least a plan for collecting tax on EVs, given the the twenty thirty deadline.0 -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-56023895focuszing723 said:
New coal mine?rjsterry said:
Just don't mention the new coal mine.focuszing723 said:Motorists will be paid up to £3,000 to give up their cars under new plans designed to improve air quality in built-up areas, The Times has learnt.
For the first time, drivers of the most polluting cars will receive public money to surrender their vehicle in favour of “credits” that can be spent on public transport, bicycles, electric scooters, car clubs and taxis.
The scheme is designed to reduce car dependency in cities, leading to lower levels of congestion and air pollution. A trial programme will be launched in Coventry in the spring, aimed specifically at drivers of the most polluting vehicles — diesel cars built before 2016 and petrol models built before 2006.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/drivers-to-receive-3-000-credit-for-taking-their-cars-off-the-road-zzzwpj6gbThe above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Always worries me when the media collectively decide what we should know, even if it is protecting one of their own it shows they are capable of collective actionfocuszing723 said:
Yeah, not that it matters, but I thought his background was interesting.surrey_commuter said:
I am surprised I didn’t know that, is it not usually reportedfocuszing723 said:Mathew Symonds, said of himself in 1996 that he was an economic liberal, believing in the market, but also in individual liberty and freedom. He wrote that ...the only way in which you can find efficient and humane solutions to problems is to give people as much information and as much power over their own lives as possible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Symonds0 -
So the “free speech union” group who are behind the “free speech in universities” campaign from the govt want to ban footballers who take the knee0
