Team Sky to end in 2019
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Surely the big budget helps replicate the results though ?
If there is a new sponsor with less cash then maybe Sky won't have so much of an advantage.0 -
Shouldn't be an issue in any fairly well run sport - sponsors come and go, with very little consequence. However, this is cycling with an antiquated 'funding model'....The sponsor money should be additional money for the teams.
Just makes me despair that no one will ever change this.All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."0 -
Prior to Puerto, the sport was sponsored by big multinational companies. Have a look at the names at the 2006 Tour - Rabobank, T-Mobile, Liberty, CSC, Credit Agricole, Discovery Channel. Now it's just Movistar. The sport's propped up by scratchcards, bike brands and sugar daddys. There's a major financial crash coming in the next ten years (and I've said this before).AndyRAC wrote:Shouldn't be an issue in any fairly well run sport - sponsors come and go, with very little consequence. However, this is cycling with an antiquated 'funding model'....The sponsor money should be additional money for the teams.
Just makes me despair that no one will ever change this.Twitter: @RichN950 -
I just wonder if Sky are an attractive proposition. A new sponsor would be taking on the accumulation of controversies and the head man is inextricably linked to them, they'd be coming in at the top of the sport and no real room to exceed past success but every possibility of moderate success appearing like relative failure. Their two big English speaking riders are both veterans and their media superstar rider has retired with his reputation dented - does a Colombian have the same sponsorship value?
And then if the budget is going to be less how does that work with existing contract commitments. I think Brailsford has a hard sell on his hands but he might welcome the chance to almost start again - maybe with a new focus rather than more of the same.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
Might be a chance to change the focus of the team. Didn't DB say he wanted to win the Tour with a French rider ? That could be the next challenge.0
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Sky don't pay for everything in the set up though. The cars and other branding add ons will be separate deals much like football now has shirt and sleeve sponsors on top of stadium naming rights.I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0
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Of that 31m sponsorship - 23m came from Sky. The other sponsorships are nice to have but pretty small but nice to have.0
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Oh what a surprise, a sponsor decides the sport is too toxic and does a runner. Some fans will claim victory until they're dancing on the ashes of a thousand tricycles.Correlation is not causation.0
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Matt Lawtons 'report' on Mailonline is as loaded as one would expect.
I guess as noone ever actually get the scalps of Wiggins Froome or SDB, then this is ultimately the victory they craved?2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0 -
Is that the case though? It's been long know that Sky's current deal ended in 2019 and it was speculated that would that long before the takeover. Sky, as the team owner not just the sponsor, are still liable for the contracts beyond 2019 (and they will have factored in writing off that money in full), so 2020 at least can be bought on the cheap.Above The Cows wrote:Oh what a surprise, a sponsor decides the sport is too toxic and does a runner. Some fans will claim victory until they're dancing on the ashes of a thousand tricycles.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Above The Cows wrote:Oh what a surprise, a sponsor decides the sport is too toxic and does a runner. Some fans will claim victory until they're dancing on the ashes of a thousand tricycles.
I'm surprised they lasted this long TBH given the obsession with slamming them whatever they do0 -
http://inrng.com/2018/12/sky-reaches-th ... -the-road/
Brailsford was informed a week ago, the team itself was told last nightNapoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
RichN95 wrote:
Is that the case though? It's been long know that Sky's current deal ended in 2019 and it was speculated that would that long before the takeover. Sky, as the team owner not just the sponsor, are still liable for the contracts beyond 2019 (and they will have factored in writing off that money in full), so 2020 at least can be bought on the cheap.Above The Cows wrote:Oh what a surprise, a sponsor decides the sport is too toxic and does a runner. Some fans will claim victory until they're dancing on the ashes of a thousand tricycles.
Good point about them owning the team. This may be overly cynical but I wonder then if they want a new sponsor to come in case a continuation of the team risks throwing up more bad news stories about the "former team Sky" or the team "who were then known as Team Sky". I suppose a new sponsor would take over some ongoing liabilities so save money to set against that risk.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the big streaming companies getting involved here. They'd more than have the budget to take it on.
Naming rights, exclusive access and docs, potentially getting linvolved in live coverage.
Seems like streaming will be the next big shift in sports, competing for premiership and big tennis tournaments already.0 -
Team GB, funded from the Brexit dividend.0
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Team Amazon Prime. If they'll pay Clarkson and his cronies stupid amounts, surely they can muster up enough to run a cycling team.I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0
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I think people will ready way to much into this. After 10 years, the sponsorship deal had run its course and ends once the contract runs out.
I do think they will struggle to fill the sponsorship gap, which means Sky's GT domination is over. The ripple effects will be intriguing.It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
An interesting ripple effect, if they do fold, will be the impact on the clickbait journalists who have relied so much on them.Timoid. wrote:I think people will ready way to much into this. After 10 years, the sponsorship deal had run its course and ends once the contract runs out.
I do think they will struggle to fill the sponsorship gap, which means Sky's GT domination is over. The ripple effects will be intriguing.Twitter: @RichN950 -
What about the Orcas? Nobody cares about Earth saving!0
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RichN95 wrote:
An interesting ripple effect, if they do fold, will be the impact on the clickbait journalists who have relied so much on them.Timoid. wrote:I think people will ready way to much into this. After 10 years, the sponsorship deal had run its course and ends once the contract runs out.
I do think they will struggle to fill the sponsorship gap, which means Sky's GT domination is over. The ripple effects will be intriguing.
They can hang a 'for sale' sign on the asylum door, too."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
RichN95 wrote:
I was genuinely thinking Netflix might be a good fit.philthy3 wrote:Team Amazon Prime. If they'll pay Clarkson and his cronies stupid amounts, surely they can muster up enough to run a cycling team.
why?Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
RichN95 wrote:
I was genuinely thinking Netflix might be a good fit.philthy3 wrote:Team Amazon Prime. If they'll pay Clarkson and his cronies stupid amounts, surely they can muster up enough to run a cycling team.
why?Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honoursmithy21 wrote:
He's right you know.0 -
FocusZing wrote:What about the Orcas? Nobody cares about Earth saving!
You've not read the Sky press release. Maybe you should.0 -
thegreatdivide wrote:FocusZing wrote:What about the Orcas? Nobody cares about Earth saving!
You've not read the Sky press release. Maybe you should.Sky announced a new long-term partnership with the England & Wales Cricket Board. The partnership, which includes a commitment to grow participation among children and at the grass roots, will form a central part of Sky’s Bigger Picture activity in the coming years.
Hows that?0 -
Pross wrote:
For money? And you can watch Netflix on Sky, anyways.0 -
mamil314 wrote:Pross wrote:
For money? And you can watch Netflix on Sky, anyways.
How would they make money from it? My use of the word sell is poor, I assume it would just be a case of a rival coming in to take over the licence of the team in return for the publicity they gain - I'm not sure if that is something that can be sold but would think its value would be minimal in terms of the numbers these companies are involved with. It doesn't matter that you can watch Netflix on the Sky platform, they are business rivals - you can watch BT Sport on Sky and Sky Sports on Virgin. More to the point, from a Netflix point of view would they want a rival getting frequently mentioned by people discussing their team e.g. Team Netflix, formerly Team Sky?0 -
RichN95 wrote:
Is that the case though? It's been long know that Sky's current deal ended in 2019 and it was speculated that would that long before the takeover. Sky, as the team owner not just the sponsor, are still liable for the contracts beyond 2019 (and they will have factored in writing off that money in full), so 2020 at least can be bought on the cheap.Above The Cows wrote:Oh what a surprise, a sponsor decides the sport is too toxic and does a runner. Some fans will claim victory until they're dancing on the ashes of a thousand tricycles.
That might be the case, it won't stop some people seeing it as a victory though.Correlation is not causation.0
