Brexit: Let's call the whole thing off..

rjsterry

Robert88 wrote:

European Court of Justice rules Britain can unilaterally revoke Article 50

A spokeswoman for the ECJ said: "In today's judgment, the Full Court has ruled that, when a Member State has notified the European Council of its intention to withdraw from the European Union, as the UK has done, that Member State is free to revoke unilaterally that notification.

"That possibility exists for as long as a withdrawal agreement concluded between the EU and that Member State has not entered into force or, if no such agreement has been concluded, for as long as the two-year period from the date of the notification of the intention to withdraw from the EU, and any possible extension, has not expired."

Easy-peasy.

How to tell your MP that Brexit is madness

Excellent news! Love Gove's petulant response. As my MP is one of those who took the case to the ECJ, I think he already knows that Brexit is madness.

bianchimoon

yes good news, though my MP appears more interested in sucking up to the people who he thinks can get a ministerial post in future, lets hope this deluded tomfoolery is sorted soon!

tangled_metal

Since the Brexiteers wanted the ECJ to no longer have any role in deciding cases affecting the UK I find this very good news.

Of course most pro Brexit seem to mix the ECJ with the human rights court.

morstar

Good news that it can be unilaterally reversed but I think that is solely a technical point of law that is useful to have clarified.

I still struggle to see a u-turn occurring (much as it would make me very happy). I think BRINO is the least damaging path when considering both economic and political outcomes.

Cameron should be shot!

surrey_commuter

morstar wrote:

Good news that it can be unilaterally reversed but I think that is solely a technical point of law that is useful to have clarified.

I still struggle to see a u-turn occurring (much as it would make me very happy). I think BRINO is the least damaging path when considering both economic and political outcomes.

Cameron should be shot!

If used correctly it gives us leverage as we can stop the ticking clock

No point in writing a letter as I doubt my MP can read

robert88

Surrey Commuter wrote:

morstar wrote:

Good news that it can be unilaterally reversed but I think that is solely a technical point of law that is useful to have clarified.

I still struggle to see a u-turn occurring (much as it would make me very happy). I think BRINO is the least damaging path when considering both economic and political outcomes.

Cameron should be shot!

If used correctly it gives us leverage as we can stop the ticking clock

No point in writing a letter as I doubt my MP can read

When I lived in Surrey we had a perfectly good MP. It's been a while though and a 'good MP' has clearly become an oxymoron.

surrey_commuter

Robert88 wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

morstar wrote:

Good news that it can be unilaterally reversed but I think that is solely a technical point of law that is useful to have clarified.

I still struggle to see a u-turn occurring (much as it would make me very happy). I think BRINO is the least damaging path when considering both economic and political outcomes.

Cameron should be shot!

If used correctly it gives us leverage as we can stop the ticking clock

No point in writing a letter as I doubt my MP can read

When I lived in Surrey we had a perfectly good MP. It's been a while though and a 'good MP' has clearly become an oxymoron.

My MP is Chris Grayling

tangled_metal

Surrey Commuter wrote:

My MP is Chris Grayling

I feel sorry for you.

I had Nigel Evans for a while now I've got a guy who's a bit "nice but dim" crossed with "tory boy" from Harry Enfield. More interested in getting the mainline trains to stop at a very small and minor town on the mainline about 8 minutes north of the nearest city and 20 minutes from another mainline station. A serious waste of time but it's his obsession.

rick_chasey

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

morstar wrote:

Good news that it can be unilaterally reversed but I think that is solely a technical point of law that is useful to have clarified.

I still struggle to see a u-turn occurring (much as it would make me very happy). I think BRINO is the least damaging path when considering both economic and political outcomes.

Cameron should be shot!

If used correctly it gives us leverage as we can stop the ticking clock

No point in writing a letter as I doubt my MP can read

When I lived in Surrey we had a perfectly good MP. It's been a while though and a 'good MP' has clearly become an oxymoron.

My MP is Chris Grayling

Shameful. Did you vote for him? Have you ever?

daniel_b

Ours is regrettably Richard Benyon.

fenix

So let's bin Brexit and off to the pub to Celebrate ? It's what David Davis would want.

(we can tell him we've exited. He won't notice)

surrey_commuter

Rick Chasey wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

morstar wrote:

Good news that it can be unilaterally reversed but I think that is solely a technical point of law that is useful to have clarified.

I still struggle to see a u-turn occurring (much as it would make me very happy). I think BRINO is the least damaging path when considering both economic and political outcomes.

Cameron should be shot!

If used correctly it gives us leverage as we can stop the ticking clock

No point in writing a letter as I doubt my MP can read

When I lived in Surrey we had a perfectly good MP. It's been a while though and a 'good MP' has clearly become an oxymoron.

My MP is Chris Grayling

Shameful. Did you vote for him? Have you ever?

No I have never voted for him.

robert88

Maybe the next Tory leader would have the balls to just do it?

robert88

..oh and don't mention Norway.

tangled_metal

Robert88 wrote:

..oh and don't mention Norway.

I'm off to Norway after Xmas, I mention Norway a lot as we're planning our first family ski trip. I doubt I'll notice what "Norway deal" is like so won't come back much enlightened by the visit. Other than learning a new skill in skiing and experiencing a new country for me.

fenix

Norway is lovely.

shirley_basso

£££ tho

Stevo_666

Tangled Metal wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

..oh and don't mention Norway.

I'm off to Norway after Xmas, I mention Norway a lot as we're planning our first family ski trip. I doubt I'll notice what "Norway deal" is like so won't come back much enlightened by the visit. Other than learning a new skill in skiing and experiencing a new country for me.

I'm headed for France, I've heard it'll be a real riot. Apparently you can put on a yellow vest and do what the hell you want.

tangled_metal

Stevo 666 wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

..oh and don't mention Norway.

I'm off to Norway after Xmas, I mention Norway a lot as we're planning our first family ski trip. I doubt I'll notice what "Norway deal" is like so won't come back much enlightened by the visit. Other than learning a new skill in skiing and experiencing a new country for me.

I'm headed for France, I've heard it'll be a real riot. Apparently you can put on a yellow vest and do what the hell you want.

At least they are identifying themselves through the gilet. Oh and not burning sheep alive in livestock trucks coming from Britain like in the past. So they're not all bad.

robert88

Stevo 666 wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

..oh and don't mention Norway.

I'm off to Norway after Xmas, I mention Norway a lot as we're planning our first family ski trip. I doubt I'll notice what "Norway deal" is like so won't come back much enlightened by the visit. Other than learning a new skill in skiing and experiencing a new country for me.

I'm headed for France, I've heard it'll be a real riot. Apparently you can put on a yellow vest and do what the hell you want.

Typical cyclist

bompington

Stevo 666 wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

..oh and don't mention Norway.

I'm off to Norway after Xmas, I mention Norway a lot as we're planning our first family ski trip. I doubt I'll notice what "Norway deal" is like so won't come back much enlightened by the visit. Other than learning a new skill in skiing and experiencing a new country for me.

I'm headed for France, I've heard it'll be a real riot. Apparently you can put on a yellow vest and do what the hell you want.

We are too, and in all seriousness it's a bit concerning. We will, of course, have a GJ for each car occupant, along with our spare bulb kit, breathalyser and all the rest, so we can just blend in if necessary.

And anyway, what on earth point is a bulb kit when you pretty much need to take off the bonnet and remove the engine to change a headlight on most cars these days?

robert88

bompington wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

..oh and don't mention Norway.

I'm off to Norway after Xmas, I mention Norway a lot as we're planning our first family ski trip. I doubt I'll notice what "Norway deal" is like so won't come back much enlightened by the visit. Other than learning a new skill in skiing and experiencing a new country for me.

I'm headed for France, I've heard it'll be a real riot. Apparently you can put on a yellow vest and do what the hell you want.

We are too, and in all seriousness it's a bit concerning. We will, of course, have a GJ for each car occupant, along with our spare bulb kit, breathalyser and all the rest, so we can just blend in if necessary.

And anyway, what on earth point is a bulb kit when you pretty much need to take off the bonnet and remove the engine to change a headlight on most cars these days?

A lot of cars on French roads are very ancient e.g. the Citroen 2cv is still common place. I believe some early ones have oil lamps though.

bompington

Well, you may be surprised to learn that I'm not driving from Scotland to the Alps in a 2CV...

briantrumpet

bompington wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

I'm headed for France, I've heard it'll be a real riot. Apparently you can put on a yellow vest and do what the hell you want.

We are too, and in all seriousness it's a bit concerning. We will, of course, have a GJ for each car occupant, along with our spare bulb kit, breathalyser and all the rest, so we can just blend in if necessary.

And anyway, what on earth point is a bulb kit when you pretty much need to take off the bonnet and remove the engine to change a headlight on most cars these days?

If you want to show GJ-allegiance/blend in, put the GJ in the windscreen. There are also various interactive maps showing where ongoing blockades and petrol stations that are short of petrol are, so they are mostly easily avoided.

https://www.phonandroid.com/gilets-jaun ... outes.html

bianchimoon

Robert88 wrote:

bompington wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

..oh and don't mention Norway.

I'm off to Norway after Xmas, I mention Norway a lot as we're planning our first family ski trip. I doubt I'll notice what "Norway deal" is like so won't come back much enlightened by the visit. Other than learning a new skill in skiing and experiencing a new country for me.

I'm headed for France, I've heard it'll be a real riot. Apparently you can put on a yellow vest and do what the hell you want.

We are too, and in all seriousness it's a bit concerning. We will, of course, have a GJ for each car occupant, along with our spare bulb kit, breathalyser and all the rest, so we can just blend in if necessary.

And anyway, what on earth point is a bulb kit when you pretty much need to take off the bonnet and remove the engine to change a headlight on most cars these days?

A lot of cars on French roads are very ancient e.g. the Citroen 2cv is still common place. I believe some early ones have oil lamps though.

Do you have to carry a spare red flag for the man walking in front of those?

Stevo_666

Robert88 wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

..oh and don't mention Norway.

I'm off to Norway after Xmas, I mention Norway a lot as we're planning our first family ski trip. I doubt I'll notice what "Norway deal" is like so won't come back much enlightened by the visit. Other than learning a new skill in skiing and experiencing a new country for me.

I'm headed for France, I've heard it'll be a real riot. Apparently you can put on a yellow vest and do what the hell you want.

Typical cyclist

Fair point. I'm going to get one.

Stevo_666

bompington wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Tangled Metal wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

..oh and don't mention Norway.

I'm off to Norway after Xmas, I mention Norway a lot as we're planning our first family ski trip. I doubt I'll notice what "Norway deal" is like so won't come back much enlightened by the visit. Other than learning a new skill in skiing and experiencing a new country for me.

I'm headed for France, I've heard it'll be a real riot. Apparently you can put on a yellow vest and do what the hell you want.

We are too, and in all seriousness it's a bit concerning. We will, of course, have a GJ for each car occupant, along with our spare bulb kit, breathalyser and all the rest, so we can just blend in if necessary.

And anyway, what on earth point is a bulb kit when you pretty much need to take off the bonnet and remove the engine to change a headlight on most cars these days?

Sod that, we're getting a minibus transfer so we don't have to bother with anything car-related on holiday.

robert88

Stevo 666 wrote:

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Sod that, we're getting a minibus transfer so we don't have to bother with anything car-related on holiday.

Good plan. After BREXIT you may not be authorised to drive there, be insured or have a car considered roadworthy. Also, have enough euros in case the credit card doesn't work.

Kinda funny really.

May gets to be leader and calls a general election to assert her authority in negotiations with the EU.

May's weakened authority causes a confidence vote to get rid, get a new leader and re-assert Tory power in the negotiations with the EU.

That went well

tangled_metal

It's Brexit innit. It's not meant to go well.

crispybug2

Robert88 wrote:

May gets to be leader and calls a general election to assert her authority in negotiations with the EU.

May's weakened authority causes a confidence vote to get rid, get a new leader and re-assert Tory power in the negotiations with the EU.

That went well

No matter what I do, all I see with Theresa May is Malcolm Tucker standing over her berating her “You’re a f*cking omnishambles, you’re like that coffee machine, from bean to cup you f*ck up!”