I've used Stans 12mm tubeless tape on a set of problematic wheels. Covered the spoke holes but the tyre sits on the bare metal.
Though TBH, a single wrap of tubeless tape of any size is a pretty good solution. Not only is it thin, its also low friction, so easy to slide the tyre into position.
I'm not sure my tyres go anywhere near my rim tape ?
Oh yes, they do.
It's the bead on the opposite side to the side you're trying to get on (or off) the rim that sits in the well of the rim (resting on the rim tape), hence the OP trying to reduce the height of this by using thin tape, which would make getting the last bit of the tyre flipped onto the rim a bit easier.
Agreed my LBS but the velox cloth tape as the link it's by no means thin and it's 16mm tape when it Dips into the well it's sitting on the edges and gets pushed about when trying to seat the tyre.
Veloplugs sounds nice but think I'd feel better with thin rim tape.
Tubeless tape is a good answer. I use the Hunt stuff in my clincher wheels to make my life easier with tight tyres, just make sure the opposite bead is fully in the rim bed when you try to get the other side in.
Heard the same about electrical tape, possible heat built up on road tyres, won’t risk that.
So another LBS had Stan no tubes tape was much thinner then velox, got that on now. Tyre can’t say it was easy but at least I know I tried what I could.
Here to no flats anytime soon :-)
Got to say this new era of tight tyre and rim combos is seriously making me considering go tubeless.
Really? Most rim tape is quite thin already. Say 1/2 mm at the most for thick stuff. I'd say the thin stuff would be 1/4mm at the least. Would this make an appreciable difference in mounting a problematic tyre?
I'm changing my tape on my Felt rims as they use factory non adhesive plastic band that slips and reveals the spoke holes. I'm replacing with Velox fabric tape that is well stuck down.
Heard the same about electrical tape, possible heat built up on road tyres, won’t risk that.
So another LBS had Stan no tubes tape was much thinner then velox, got that on now. Tyre can’t say it was easy but at least I know I tried what I could.
Here to no flats anytime soon :-)
Got to say this new era of tight tyre and rim combos is seriously making me considering go tubeless.
or go tubular and save the hassle
#doitproperly
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Tubular once I have a team car following me around :-)
So maybe it's in my head but 2 changes later and yes it's not an easy change but it's def not a scary one like how is this ever going to fit. I saw reviews of this wheel and tons of people mentioning tyres are tight.
I think velox fabric I had on was not that wide and was just about fitting the well area, however was getting in the way of the tyre going into the well. The thinner and wider stands tape is quite slippery so tyre is easier to seat into the well area.
why would you need a team car following you round?
#curious
Heard its near impossible to repair one on the road, right?
nope - carry a small can of foam or just a rolled up tub with some tape in a pocket - bit bigger than an inner tube but 300 times easier to change.mf has one rolled up, pre taped that he carries.
pull off old tub. pop on new tub. inflate, ride away. job jobbed.
#simples
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
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Though TBH, a single wrap of tubeless tape of any size is a pretty good solution. Not only is it thin, its also low friction, so easy to slide the tyre into position.
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/velox-rim-tape/
Oh yes, they do.
It's the bead on the opposite side to the side you're trying to get on (or off) the rim that sits in the well of the rim (resting on the rim tape), hence the OP trying to reduce the height of this by using thin tape, which would make getting the last bit of the tyre flipped onto the rim a bit easier.
Not sure where you get the idea from that a woven cloth rim tape is 'thin'..?
Veloplugs sounds nice but think I'd feel better with thin rim tape.
Anyone? Need to get that wheel on real soon.
Pinarello F10 - Ultegra 6800 - Carbonspeed C38 - Tubeless
Probably fine at mountain bike pressures but on a road bike you're pushing your luck, it isn't that strong.
Pinarello F10 - Ultegra 6800 - Carbonspeed C38 - Tubeless
So another LBS had Stan no tubes tape was much thinner then velox, got that on now. Tyre can’t say it was easy but at least I know I tried what I could.
Here to no flats anytime soon :-)
Got to say this new era of tight tyre and rim combos is seriously making me considering go tubeless.
I'm changing my tape on my Felt rims as they use factory non adhesive plastic band that slips and reveals the spoke holes. I'm replacing with Velox fabric tape that is well stuck down.
#itsfine
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
or go tubular and save the hassle
#doitproperly
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
So maybe it's in my head but 2 changes later and yes it's not an easy change but it's def not a scary one like how is this ever going to fit. I saw reviews of this wheel and tons of people mentioning tyres are tight.
I think velox fabric I had on was not that wide and was just about fitting the well area, however was getting in the way of the tyre going into the well. The thinner and wider stands tape is quite slippery so tyre is easier to seat into the well area.
A good days work :-)
#curious
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Heard its near impossible to repair one on the road, right?
Constructive criticism is fine, insults are not
nope - carry a small can of foam or just a rolled up tub with some tape in a pocket - bit bigger than an inner tube but 300 times easier to change.mf has one rolled up, pre taped that he carries.
pull off old tub. pop on new tub. inflate, ride away. job jobbed.
#simples
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour