To save you reading I can recommend IRC Roadlites or Formula Pro. Not cheap mind you. Lots of other useful tubeless info on Cycle Clinic website.
Yes. Agreed.
You really need to read some of that post as there's lots of info on what wheels and tyre combos work and which don't go well together.
FYI. I have CERO EVO AR24 wheels with Schwalbe Pro Ones. Dead easy to fit and inflate and other than the well documented wear issue of the pro ones I love them. Even if they only last a year of summer riding.
T.
£90 for a couple of decent tyres that will probably last several thousand miles is a good investment imo. Tyres are not an area to scrimp on. There are plenty of tyres out there for £50 each. £45 for a good tubeless one isn't that expensive.
I tried Schwable Pro Ones. Rear wore out in 1,200 miles and had punctures on every single ride and bike would be constantly covered in sealant. Never had to stop and plug them though.
Now back on tubes and Michelin Power Endurance.
IRC Roadlites on my 2018 Defy, currently on 1500 miles no issues so far apart from getting them to seal when 1st installed. I inflate them before every ride as lose a bit of pressure (I am about 100 kg),
Have a look at the thread as mentioned, also bought the sealant from cycle clinic as recommended.
2500 miles this year on tubeless only changed to IRC as had a lump of glass in the original which I made a mess of removing, so decided to upgrade.
I really like them and will be sticking with tubeless on my summer bike.
jolly giant why not try another tubeless tyre. you tried the worst one of the lot for durability oh no it not the worst that crown is held by the Vittoria Corsa Speed tubeless tyre.
The rims on your giant are probably a bot undersized if you had trouble sealing.
I tried Schwable Pro Ones. Rear wore out in 1,200 miles and had punctures on every single ride and bike would be constantly covered in sealant. Never had to stop and plug them though.
Now back on tubes and Michelin Power Endurance.
I tried Shwalbe Pro Ones. Still going strong after 1,009 miles and no punctures.
I tried Schwable Pro Ones. Rear wore out in 1,200 miles and had punctures on every single ride and bike would be constantly covered in sealant. Never had to stop and plug them though.
Now back on tubes and Michelin Power Endurance.
Really? And you continued using them for 1,200 miles? I call exaggeration.
I use Mavic Yksion Pro UST with Stans sealant on Mavic rims. No punctures yet and grip is fine. Went on a doddle and inflation with a standard track pump without hassle.
I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.
Used Giants Gavia tubeless with no issues until one was gashed beyond repair. Been using IRC Formula,s with no issue's on daily 26mile commute on crappy country roads for last year or so. Several thousand miles and no flats or signs of snot on frame. Worth the extra money in my view just for peace of mind. https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/collection ... less-tyres
Got Gavias on one bike and IRC formulas on the other. No issues with either but I prefer the IRC. Much more comfortable as they blow up wider than the rim. 25's that are more like 28's on my wide rims. May not be so aero but they are nice and comfy run at 80 psi on rubbish Cambs roads.
You must have the old version of the formula Pro tyres with the coloured lettering from 2 years ago. The new tyres are smaller.
Not sure Malcolm, the ones you fitted for me in April. The lettering is white. It's the Roadlites I have, not the Formula Pro which probably explains it. I think I'll go Formula Pro next time as the don't blow up so big on the kinlin rims.
You must have the old version of the formula Pro tyres with the coloured lettering from 2 years ago. The new tyres are smaller.
Not sure Malcolm, the ones you fitted for me in April. The lettering is white. It's the Roadlites I have, not the Formula Pro which probably explains it. I think I'll go Formula Pro next time as the don't blow up so big on the kinlin rims.
I tried Schwable Pro Ones. Rear wore out in 1,200 miles and had punctures on every single ride
I've just fitted another Pro One having covered 3500 miles without a single puncture. Prior to switching to tubeless I was puncturing every other ride.
Giant Gavia AC1 on mine atm. First tubeless tyre I’ve ever had so have no comparisons tbf. They seem good but look cheap imo. They’ll probably last me the whole of next year though so won’t be in a rush to change them. The IRC’s do look good.
Mileage is weight dependent and also rider depedent. those that corner fast, and spend alot of time climbing, and decenting fast get alot more tyre wear. Those that ride in straight lines in the fens get less tyre wear.
Mileage is weight dependent and also rider depedent. those that corner fast, and spend alot of time climbing, and decenting fast get alot more tyre wear. Those that ride in straight lines in the fens get less tyre wear.
I went with road tubeless for about 18 months, did about 4500 miles in all conditions but not commuting.
I've gone back to regular clinchers. I'm just not convinced that tubeless are great for road use.
I didn't get many punctures in that time, but there was regular maintenance with topping up sealant etc. and I found that every time I rode, I was nervous about getting a big hole or something else catastrophic and being stranded.
If the tyre comes off the rim then you won't re-seat it with a hand pump.
So you can put a tube in - but some tyres are soo tight that it's basically impossible at the road side. I can fit clinchers with no levers, but I broke multiple levers trying to get one set of tyres onto the rims.
In the end, I decided that there were not enough benefits for me.
I had a set of Borg wheels built up by Cycle Clinic and shod with IRC Roadlites at Malcolm's recommendation. I have put 2.5k miles on them and haven't had a single flat, they are more comfortable and faster than all the clinchers I previously used. If I had to replace them tomorrow, I wouldn't bother looking at anything else.
if the tyre unseats from the rim when flat then it not tubeless compatible (the rim or the tyre). That is part of tubeless compatability. yes getting a tube into a tubeless tyre is difficult so that why i dont carry one.
why be nervous. how come I am not. I have had punctures a long way from home on a wet night and still managed to get the the tyre pluged and refinalted well enough to get home.
I have been stranded with tubed tyres after a tyre failure meant I used up all my 4 tubes and one of my groups before they left me.
As I have a said tubeless woes are user error. You have tubeless tyres on your car for the same reasons as you find them on bicycles.
you have to pump up bicycle tyres and struggle at the side oof a road on a wet january evening putting a tube into to tubed clincher. If you dont ride on a wet cold january eveneing then you wont understand why tubeless tyres are of benefit. If you cannot tell that tubeless tyres are more comfotable than tubed tyres then you might as well use the marathon plus.
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To save you reading I can recommend IRC Roadlites or Formula Pro. Not cheap mind you. Lots of other useful tubeless info on Cycle Clinic website.
You really need to read some of that post as there's lots of info on what wheels and tyre combos work and which don't go well together.
FYI. I have CERO EVO AR24 wheels with Schwalbe Pro Ones. Dead easy to fit and inflate and other than the well documented wear issue of the pro ones I love them. Even if they only last a year of summer riding.
T.
Now back on tubes and Michelin Power Endurance.
Have a look at the thread as mentioned, also bought the sealant from cycle clinic as recommended.
2500 miles this year on tubeless only changed to IRC as had a lump of glass in the original which I made a mess of removing, so decided to upgrade.
I really like them and will be sticking with tubeless on my summer bike.
The rims on your giant are probably a bot undersized if you had trouble sealing.
I tried Shwalbe Pro Ones. Still going strong after 1,009 miles and no punctures.
Really? And you continued using them for 1,200 miles? I call exaggeration.
I use Mavic Yksion Pro UST with Stans sealant on Mavic rims. No punctures yet and grip is fine. Went on a doddle and inflation with a standard track pump without hassle.
https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/collection ... less-tyres
Not sure Malcolm, the ones you fitted for me in April. The lettering is white. It's the Roadlites I have, not the Formula Pro which probably explains it. I think I'll go Formula Pro next time as the don't blow up so big on the kinlin rims.
I got my names mixed up of the various IRC tyres.
I've just fitted another Pro One having covered 3500 miles without a single puncture. Prior to switching to tubeless I was puncturing every other ride.
At £36.20 they are just about there https://www.mantel.com/uk/schwalbe-pro-one-microskin-tl-easy-tyre
Pinarello F10 - Ultegra 6800 - Carbonspeed C38 - Tubeless
Very true. My tyres last years!
I've gone back to regular clinchers. I'm just not convinced that tubeless are great for road use.
I didn't get many punctures in that time, but there was regular maintenance with topping up sealant etc. and I found that every time I rode, I was nervous about getting a big hole or something else catastrophic and being stranded.
If the tyre comes off the rim then you won't re-seat it with a hand pump.
So you can put a tube in - but some tyres are soo tight that it's basically impossible at the road side. I can fit clinchers with no levers, but I broke multiple levers trying to get one set of tyres onto the rims.
In the end, I decided that there were not enough benefits for me.
Seems perfectly rational reason for not using tubelsss
why be nervous. how come I am not. I have had punctures a long way from home on a wet night and still managed to get the the tyre pluged and refinalted well enough to get home.
I have been stranded with tubed tyres after a tyre failure meant I used up all my 4 tubes and one of my groups before they left me.
As I have a said tubeless woes are user error. You have tubeless tyres on your car for the same reasons as you find them on bicycles.
you have to pump up bicycle tyres and struggle at the side oof a road on a wet january evening putting a tube into to tubed clincher. If you dont ride on a wet cold january eveneing then you wont understand why tubeless tyres are of benefit. If you cannot tell that tubeless tyres are more comfotable than tubed tyres then you might as well use the marathon plus.
Also all tyres are different.
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