Everesting Hardknott Pass

Matthewfalle

We decided today to pop down to Hardknott to Everest it in a couple of weeks.

Anyone know of somewhere nice to stay not too far a ride away and a nice pub for a couple of beers and some piggy feet on the way back from the ride?

Many thanks in advance.

pblakeney

Will you be doubling up on bike devices like you have with posts?
Rumour has it that some do that.

mamil314

Y u no search


viewtopic.php?f=40013&t=13092392

Matthewfalle

mamil314 wrote:

Y u no search


viewtopic.php?f=40013&t=13092392

Top stuff - thank you.

Much like my ability to only post in one place my search ability is rubbish. I blame MF.

Matthewfalle

PBlakeney wrote:

Will you be doubling up on bike devices like you have with posts?
Rumour has it that some do that.

Well, tbh, as soon as MF posted in BB I pointed out to him (as did MF) that that was waste of time, why not post somewhere where some useful answers may appear.

Re doubling up computers - can anyone recommend two mobile telephones that we can use instead of bike computers? And if we were to double up on power meters does that mean we would need to take a tandem?

mamil314

No problem. You will be descending 28 times, bring extra brake pads.

Matthewfalle

mamil314 wrote:

No problem. You will be descending 28 times, bring extra brake pads.

Grazie!

Any recommendations? Carbon tubs being used.

pblakeney

Matthewfalle wrote:

mamil314 wrote:

No problem. You will be descending 28 times, bring extra brake pads.

Grazie!

Any recommendations? Carbon tubs being used.

Carbon tubs may be on the hard side. Try something softer. Vittoria tubs are nice.
You could use 3 mobile phones. One in each jersey pocket. Cuts the effort by 2/3.

mamil314

On mechanical rim brakes? I don't even think it's humanly possible, to be honest.

1 descent leaves hands numb, 5 will have them shaking with exhaustion and you need at least 28.

I am happy to be proven wrong, though. Some amazing people out there

ugo.santalucia

mamil314 wrote:

On mechanical rim brakes? I don't even think it's humanly possible, to be honest.

Maybe a bit of an overstatement... let's see how he gets on, I am quite curious actually...

I would have chosen Honister... lighter and more manageable traffic, but I can see why he wants to do Hardknott

cougie

It has been Everested. Almost 13 hours. Good luck.

http://www.everestinguk.com/2014/08/eve ... s.html?m=1

ugo.santalucia

cougie wrote:

It has been Everested. Almost 13 hours. Good luck.

http://www.everestinguk.com/2014/08/eve ... s.html?m=1

That's by someone who can climb it in under 15 minutes, which is very good going...

mamil314

Well done, that guy. He was quite lucky to get the mental boost from the failed attempter, probably reduced pain for 10 reps ^ ^

First.Aspect

mamil314 wrote:

Well done, that guy. He was quite lucky to get the mental boost from the failed attempter, probably reduced pain for 10 reps ^ ^

Not the smartest choice for Everesting I wouldn't have thought. Unless you have a really tiny gear, on a climb that steep the lactic acic nausea will be a problem before exhaustion sets in.

That and the Lakes are like an ant's nest at this time of year. Lots of people wearing RAB and North Face, and driving 4x4s, which we know the OP detests.

mrb123

Doing Hardknott once is a deeply unpleasant experience, mitigated only by the fact that it's over quite quickly.

Doing it repeatedly all day long would be utter torture.

mrb123

MrB123 wrote:

Doing Hardknott once is a deeply unpleasant experience, mitigated only by the fact that it's over quite quickly.

Doing it repeatedly all day long would be utter torture.

But if I had to do it, I reckon a hardtail mountainbike would be far more sensible than a road bike. Easier gears on the way up and much more tolerable on the descents.

cougie

I'm in the lakes and it's heaving and it's not even school holidays yet

Guanajuato

Good luck - you'll need it!
As for places to stay, try the Lutwidge Arms in Holmrook. Not a place that charges the usual Lake District Premium. the rooms are OK, the food is excellent, and its a lovely flat warm up along Eskdale to the bottom of Hardknott. There's also the Woolpack in Boot for a swift half or two afterwards.
Avoid the Bridge at Santon Bridge. If ever a place traded on an out of date reputation and no need for return custom, that's it.

ugo.santalucia

Has he already given up on his plans?

slowmart

First Aspect wrote:

mamil314 wrote:

Well done, that guy. He was quite lucky to get the mental boost from the failed attempter, probably reduced pain for 10 reps ^ ^

Not the smartest choice for Everesting I wouldn't have thought.

I've been on this forum for a while now and I can't remember anyone ever suggesting the OP was intelligent.

Good luck to him

svetty

DFTT

Matthewfalle

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Has he already given up on his plans?

No - just working out logistics. You know things are fairly disorganised around these parts! TBH, after yesterdays 18 hour day, I'm lucky to be awake......................

ugo.santalucia

Matthewfalle wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Has he already given up on his plans?

No - just working out logistics. You know things are fairly disorganised around these parts! TBH, after yesterdays 18 hour day, I'm lucky to be awake......................

I might be mistaken to think that this is the "ride" with fewer logistics around.

You book a B&B for two nights, you drive to the bottom of Hardknott with a car filled with bars, drinks, sandwiches and gels... and you do your thing for 14 hours.

You might need a portable battery charger for your Garmin

cougie

Why would you though ? There's so many great places to go. This sounds like purgatory. It's not for me.

ugo.santalucia

cougie wrote:

Why would you though ? There's so many great places to go. This sounds like purgatory. It's not for me.

Probably instantaneous gratification and Strava glory... there are events around that clock 9-10 k of climbing, but they don't have the powerful "everesting" branding and the notoriety that comes with it.

this is one

https://pendle600audax.com/route/

Not saying the OP is one of them, but there are a number of Web types who seem to make a living out of doing such things... once they get recognition, they can sell their services, being that coaching, adventure consulting or else...

Everesting is still a talking point

matt_n-2

I rode Hardknott last week, once was enough for me let alone 28 times!

I did it late afternoon, traffic was light but I did come across a few cars, the weather was also perfect for me, sunny, warm and a light tail wind. I'd imagine it soon gets pretty horrible up there in worse weather.

I stayed in the Brook House Inn, just about 2 miles from Hardknott, rooms a bit tired but decent beer and pub grub. The Boot Inn was the other side of the road and the looked a bit nicer.

pblakeney

Matt_N wrote:

I rode Hardknott last week, once was enough for me let alone 28 times!

I did it late afternoon, traffic was light but I did come across a few cars, the weather was also perfect for me, sunny, warm and a light tail wind. I'd imagine it soon gets pretty horrible up there in worse weather.

I stayed in the Brook House Inn, just about 2 miles from Hardknott, rooms a bit tired but decent beer and pub grub. The Boot Inn was the other side of the road and the looked a bit nicer.

I imagine that the whole point is that it is supposed to be difficult.

matt_n-2

PBlakeney wrote:

Matt_N wrote:

I rode Hardknott last week, once was enough for me let alone 28 times!

I did it late afternoon, traffic was light but I did come across a few cars, the weather was also perfect for me, sunny, warm and a light tail wind. I'd imagine it soon gets pretty horrible up there in worse weather.

I stayed in the Brook House Inn, just about 2 miles from Hardknott, rooms a bit tired but decent beer and pub grub. The Boot Inn was the other side of the road and the looked a bit nicer.

I imagine that the whole point is that it is supposed to be difficult.

No, you don't say?

The point I was trying to convey is that it's a nasty climb to do over and over, it's very touristy, the road is narrow and you'll like be stopping numerous times both up and down, not great for getting in a rythym.

Matthewfalle

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

ugo.santalucia wrote:

Has he already given up on his plans?

No - just working out logistics. You know things are fairly disorganised around these parts! TBH, after yesterdays 18 hour day, I'm lucky to be awake......................

I might be mistaken to think that this is the "ride" with fewer logistics around.

You book a B&B for two nights, you drive to the bottom of Hardknott with a car filled with bars, drinks, sandwiches and gels... and you do your thing for 14 hours.

You might need a portable battery charger for your Garmin

Logistics as how do we get there from where we are and getting us in the same place at the same time. At the end of day its just a hill in England. The rest is, as you say, very simple.

Turn up.
Ride up hill.
Ride down hill.
Repeat ad nauseum.
Go to pub.
Go home.

cougie

Best check what time the pub closes!

sniper68

Just out of interest are you going up one side then down the other,turning around and doing the same or just up from Eskdale to the highest point and turning around etc?