Up-skirting ban blocked by Tory, pinno in clear!
darkhairedlord
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I see Chis Chope has blocked the Up-skirting ban.
I also note his wikipedia page has been hacked....
"Sir Christopher Robert Chope OBE MP (born 19 May 1947) is an utter censored and absolute muppet with no conscience whatsoever. His best friend is Neil S Walker. He is the Member of Parliament for Christchurch. A Brexit advocate, he has been supportive of Leave Means Leave, a Eurosceptic pressure group."
I also note his wikipedia page has been hacked....
"Sir Christopher Robert Chope OBE MP (born 19 May 1947) is an utter censored and absolute muppet with no conscience whatsoever. His best friend is Neil S Walker. He is the Member of Parliament for Christchurch. A Brexit advocate, he has been supportive of Leave Means Leave, a Eurosceptic pressure group."
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"On 15 June 2018 Chope blocked the passage of a private member's bill that would have made upskirting a specific offence by crying "object" in the House of Commons, which drew immediate criticism from fellow MPs.[23]. He was, however, too busy trying to get an angle up PM Teresa May's skirt to care much about his colleague's ire."
I am not sure. You have no chance.
It might be a technicality with the wording of the law for example. We don't want to just bang legislation through because it's for a good cause. It needs to be legally sound too.
here he is, just checking his email, honest..
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition
it does feel like he objected to this just to reinforce his reputation as a complete pr1ck
Not at all. Without his hard work we would never have had the poll tax. And then where would we be?
From BBC News website...
Why did Sir Christopher object?
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By Mark D'Arcy, BBC parliamentary correspondent
Sir Christopher is a leading member of a group of backbench Conservatives who make a practice of ensuring that what they see as well-meaning but flabby legislation is not lazily plopped on to the statue book by a few MPs on a poorly attended Friday sitting.
And after all this is a bill to create a new criminal offence, for which people can go to jail.
So, however worthy the cause, he insists on proper, extensive scrutiny, and he has spent most Commons Fridays for the last 20 years doing just that.
Indeed, a few minutes before he blocked the upskirting bill, he was forcing a delay to the final debate on the Mental Health Units (Use of Force) Bill, or Seni's Law, which also had strong support from the government.
The upskirting bill is not dead - there will be other opportunities to get it a formal second reading debate - but they will only succeed if Sir Christopher and his allies can be persuaded not to object again.
The only other alternative is for the government to provide debating time for it, or, far more likely, to add the proposals to a bill of their own.
I'm sure it will go through eventually, perhaps worded slightly differently.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
so is your beef with him as a person or the fact that he stopped (possibly, we don't know) poorly worded legislation before it was made law?
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
I find that unlikely as there aren't many nice people in politics.....
However it still seems sensible to ensure that the legislation that goes through is properly scrutinised.
As has been pointed out, this is for both suspects and victims, it works both ways. Badly worded legislation could result in worse outcomes for victims for example.
Bit of an assumption that it was poorly worded, no? There's a bit of a pattern to the bills to which he's objected.
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/b ... 4_en_1.htm
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition
He's the only one who did think it was poorly worded. I doubt he has even read it, however, if it let's you guys do some mutual hand wringing... Just hope it's not your daughter....
It's a half page of A4 amendment to section 67 (Voyeurism) of the Sexual Offences Act 2003. He was just being a reactionary ****.
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition
When looking at the 650 predominantly deadbeat MPs it does intrigue me that people object so much to Brussels.
Errrrrrrr - wtaf are you on about?
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Who knows? I don't. Neither do you. But you're happy chucking out the insults.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Chope has a long history of trying to game the system to frustrate any attempt to bring the world into the 20th century, let alone the 21st.
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition
All hail British democracy.
People will look back at this period and laugh that people can’t see it’s barely different to the rotten boroughs of the century before.
I dunno. Some days it seems like that, but watching one of the documentaries about the Suffragettes the other night, and the decades of resistance to votes for women, it was pretty clear we've come a long way, albeit with plenty still to do.
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition
Right? :roll: FFS I despair for the future of this country.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
Something like, “They are idiots, but they are our idiots”
No email in those days
Two of the most prominent figures on the libertarian Right of the Conservative Party, the pair regard many private members' bills as politically correct, nanny state nonsense seeking to meddle in people's lives and curb their personal freedom."
Ah well, that sounds reasonable enough. :roll:
I am not sure. You have no chance.