Lest we forget

Vino'sGhost

heres a good article about kenacort

https://www.givemesport.com/897283-davi ... tent=syndi

larkim

That's been an oddity of the kenacort debate - as the scientists deny that the sort of effect that Millar describes as attributable to kenacort.

Don't get me wrong, Millar is an important voice in the doping narrative and should be listened to - but I can't help worry that this info is somehow flawed through the impact of the passage of time or misinformation.

inseine

Possibly interesting but I have to ask, why now? Seems like old news

sherer

It's a givemesport article so just click bait.. it's prob even linked below this thread

bompington

Apply to become a GMS writer by signing up and submitting a 250-word test article

Should apply, the bar is evidently quite low

EDIT: the OP is in fact objectively wrong, as there is no current meaning of the word "good" that can be applied to that article.

twotoebenny

The OP doesn't care if the article is good or not, the title is the really the discussion point

Pross

I assume the 'lest we forget' means let's dig this back up as it appears no-one is having a go at Wiggins any more and no-one who actually matters (i.e. the ADAs and UCI) feel there's a case to be answered.

tim000

another pointless thread

orraloon

And here was me naively thinking the thread might be about the centenary of the WWI armistice. Should have known.

Vino'sGhost

Pross wrote:

I assume the 'lest we forget' means let's dig this back up as it appears no-one is having a go at Wiggins any more and no-one who actually matters (i.e. the ADAs and UCI) feel there's a case to be answered.

Well thats not entirely true is it.

Of course this is the we love wiggins he broke no rules denial site lolololol

bompington

Slow day at work is it Vino?

carbonclem

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Pross wrote:

I assume the 'lest we forget' means let's dig this back up as it appears no-one is having a go at Wiggins any more and no-one who actually matters (i.e. the ADAs and UCI) feel there's a case to be answered.

Well thats not entirely true is it.

Of course this is the we love wiggins he broke no rules denial site lolololol

Which part isn't true? I presume the former, cos someone is always having a pop, of course. Though I did chuckle when Bitter Kimmage was having a go at Froome after the Giro and used Wiggins a point of credibility to compare him against.

But the latter, you'll have to expand.

mamil314

CarbonClem what are you doing.

Vino'sGhost

CarbonClem wrote:

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Pross wrote:

I assume the 'lest we forget' means let's dig this back up as it appears no-one is having a go at Wiggins any more and no-one who actually matters (i.e. the ADAs and UCI) feel there's a case to be answered.

Well thats not entirely true is it.

Of course this is the we love wiggins he broke no rules denial site lolololol

Which part isn't true? I presume the former, cos someone is always having a pop, of course. Though I did chuckle when Bitter Kimmage was having a go at Froome after the Giro and used Wiggins a point of credibility to compare him against.

But the latter, you'll have to expand.

Haha i missed that interview.

re the second point there are some on here who condone wiggins possible abuse of TUE and lack of evidence through data loss and consider it all fair game. Rich for example has shown quite a pro ped stance in the recent past. but the real point was something for the but kenacort isnt performance enhancing so not cheating posters to consider. i.e. that Millar a drug cheat used Kenacort and found it was useful. Wiggins of course has never been done for PED use and only used it to "bring himself up to the level of others"

carbonclem

Vino'sGhost wrote:

CarbonClem wrote:

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Pross wrote:

I assume the 'lest we forget' means let's dig this back up as it appears no-one is having a go at Wiggins any more and no-one who actually matters (i.e. the ADAs and UCI) feel there's a case to be answered.

Well thats not entirely true is it.

Of course this is the we love wiggins he broke no rules denial site lolololol

Which part isn't true? I presume the former, cos someone is always having a pop, of course. Though I did chuckle when Bitter Kimmage was having a go at Froome after the Giro and used Wiggins a point of credibility to compare him against.

But the latter, you'll have to expand.

Haha i missed that interview.

re the second point there are some on here who condone wiggins possible abuse of TUE and lack of evidence through data loss and consider it all fair game. Rich for example has shown quite a pro ped stance in the recent past. but the real point was something for the but kenacort isnt performance enhancing so not cheating posters to consider. i.e. that Millar a drug cheat used Kenacort and found it was useful. Wiggins of course has never been done for PED use and only used it to "bring himself up to the level of others"

Sorry, you'll have to clarify where rules were broken. Actual proof/rules rather than speculation.

carbonclem

mamil314 wrote:

CarbonClem what are you doing.

Sorry :oops:

hanshotfirst

Can you not get this at The Clinic, Vino? Nah?

veronese68

orraloon wrote:

And here was me naively thinking the thread might be about the centenary of the WWI armistice. Should have known.

I knew it wouldn't be, but wondered what it was and curiosity got the better of me. I thought maybe it was about an incident in which a few people died or something.

rick_chasey

Well Michael Golas’ parents are keen to retrieve the sunglasses he was wearing on the day he died on the way to Roubaix.

Same part of the world.

RichN95.

Rick Chasey wrote:

Well Michael Golas’ parents are keen to retrieve the sunglasses he was wearing on the day he died on the way to Roubaix.

Same part of the world.

Michael Goolaerts. Michal Golas rides for Sky.

Pross

RichN95 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Well Michael Golas’ parents are keen to retrieve the sunglasses he was wearing on the day he died on the way to Roubaix.

Same part of the world.

Michael Goolaerts. Michal Golas rides for Sky.

I was thinking I’d somehow missed something!

rick_chasey

Sorry everyone.

Shwhat happens when you do stuff on an iPhone

salsiccia1

LEST WE FORGET

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twotoebenny

Amen

m.r.m.

Salsiccia1 wrote:

LEST WE FORGET

In memoriam

OBJECTIVITY, REASONABLENESS and BALANCE

Paid the ultimate sacrifìce on the fields of the Internet
To bring freedom to extremists and trolls
And allow their influence to affect all areas of thought
To make everything black or white
And no in between

Never have so many been influenced so much by so few

Quoted for the truth