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Lest we forget

Vino'sGhostVino'sGhost Posts: 4,320
edited June 2018 in Pro race
heres a good article about kenacort

https://www.givemesport.com/897283-davi ... tent=syndi

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  • larkimlarkim Posts: 2,263
    That's been an oddity of the kenacort debate - as the scientists deny that the sort of effect that Millar describes as attributable to kenacort.

    Don't get me wrong, Millar is an important voice in the doping narrative and should be listened to - but I can't help worry that this info is somehow flawed through the impact of the passage of time or misinformation.
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  • inseineinseine Posts: 5,609
    Possibly interesting but I have to ask, why now? Seems like old news
  • sherersherer Posts: 2,395
    It's a givemesport article so just click bait.. it's prob even linked below this thread
  • bompingtonbompington Posts: 7,028
    Apply to become a GMS writer by signing up and submitting a 250-word test article
    Should apply, the bar is evidently quite low

    EDIT: the OP is in fact objectively wrong, as there is no current meaning of the word "good" that can be applied to that article.
  • twotoebennytwotoebenny Posts: 759
    The OP doesn't care if the article is good or not, the title is the really the discussion point
  • ProssPross Posts: 22,137
    I assume the 'lest we forget' means let's dig this back up as it appears no-one is having a go at Wiggins any more and no-one who actually matters (i.e. the ADAs and UCI) feel there's a case to be answered.
  • tim000tim000 Posts: 718
    another pointless thread
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 5,894
    And here was me naively thinking the thread might be about the centenary of the WWI armistice. Should have known.
  • Vino'sGhostVino'sGhost Posts: 4,320
    Pross wrote:
    I assume the 'lest we forget' means let's dig this back up as it appears no-one is having a go at Wiggins any more and no-one who actually matters (i.e. the ADAs and UCI) feel there's a case to be answered.


    Well thats not entirely true is it.

    Of course this is the we love wiggins he broke no rules denial site lolololol
  • bompingtonbompington Posts: 7,028
    Slow day at work is it Vino?
  • carbonclemcarbonclem Posts: 865
    Pross wrote:
    I assume the 'lest we forget' means let's dig this back up as it appears no-one is having a go at Wiggins any more and no-one who actually matters (i.e. the ADAs and UCI) feel there's a case to be answered.


    Well thats not entirely true is it.

    Of course this is the we love wiggins he broke no rules denial site lolololol

    Which part isn't true? I presume the former, cos someone is always having a pop, of course. Though I did chuckle when Bitter Kimmage was having a go at Froome after the Giro and used Wiggins a point of credibility to compare him against.

    But the latter, you'll have to expand.
  • mamil314mamil314 Posts: 1,103
    CarbonClem what are you doing.
  • Vino'sGhostVino'sGhost Posts: 4,320
    carbonclem wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    I assume the 'lest we forget' means let's dig this back up as it appears no-one is having a go at Wiggins any more and no-one who actually matters (i.e. the ADAs and UCI) feel there's a case to be answered.


    Well thats not entirely true is it.

    Of course this is the we love wiggins he broke no rules denial site lolololol

    Which part isn't true? I presume the former, cos someone is always having a pop, of course. Though I did chuckle when Bitter Kimmage was having a go at Froome after the Giro and used Wiggins a point of credibility to compare him against.

    But the latter, you'll have to expand.

    Haha i missed that interview.

    re the second point there are some on here who condone wiggins possible abuse of TUE and lack of evidence through data loss and consider it all fair game. Rich for example has shown quite a pro ped stance in the recent past. but the real point was something for the but kenacort isnt performance enhancing so not cheating posters to consider. i.e. that Millar a drug cheat used Kenacort and found it was useful. Wiggins of course has never been done for PED use and only used it to "bring himself up to the level of others"
  • carbonclemcarbonclem Posts: 865
    carbonclem wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    I assume the 'lest we forget' means let's dig this back up as it appears no-one is having a go at Wiggins any more and no-one who actually matters (i.e. the ADAs and UCI) feel there's a case to be answered.


    Well thats not entirely true is it.

    Of course this is the we love wiggins he broke no rules denial site lolololol

    Which part isn't true? I presume the former, cos someone is always having a pop, of course. Though I did chuckle when Bitter Kimmage was having a go at Froome after the Giro and used Wiggins a point of credibility to compare him against.

    But the latter, you'll have to expand.

    Haha i missed that interview.

    re the second point there are some on here who condone wiggins possible abuse of TUE and lack of evidence through data loss and consider it all fair game. Rich for example has shown quite a pro ped stance in the recent past. but the real point was something for the but kenacort isnt performance enhancing so not cheating posters to consider. i.e. that Millar a drug cheat used Kenacort and found it was useful. Wiggins of course has never been done for PED use and only used it to "bring himself up to the level of others"

    Sorry, you'll have to clarify where rules were broken. Actual proof/rules rather than speculation.
  • carbonclemcarbonclem Posts: 865
    mamil314 wrote:
    CarbonClem what are you doing.

    Sorry :oops: :lol:
  • hanshotfirsthanshotfirst Posts: 273
    Can you not get this at The Clinic, Vino? Nah?
  • veronese68veronese68 Posts: 22,308 Lives Here
    orraloon wrote:
    And here was me naively thinking the thread might be about the centenary of the WWI armistice. Should have known.
    I knew it wouldn't be, but wondered what it was and curiosity got the better of me. I thought maybe it was about an incident in which a few people died or something.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,651 Lives Here
    Well Michael Golas’ parents are keen to retrieve the sunglasses he was wearing on the day he died on the way to Roubaix.

    Same part of the world.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 22,895
    Well Michael Golas’ parents are keen to retrieve the sunglasses he was wearing on the day he died on the way to Roubaix.

    Same part of the world.
    Michael Goolaerts. Michal Golas rides for Sky.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • ProssPross Posts: 22,137
    RichN95 wrote:
    Well Michael Golas’ parents are keen to retrieve the sunglasses he was wearing on the day he died on the way to Roubaix.

    Same part of the world.
    Michael Goolaerts. Michal Golas rides for Sky.

    I was thinking I’d somehow missed something!
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,651 Lives Here
    Sorry everyone.

    Shwhat happens when you do stuff on an iPhone
  • salsiccia1salsiccia1 Posts: 3,262
    LEST WE FORGET

    In memoriam

    OBJECTIVITY, REASONABLENESS and BALANCE

    Paid the ultimate sacrifìce on the fields of the Internet
    To bring freedom to extremists and trolls
    And allow their influence to affect all areas of thought
    To make everything black or white
    And no in between

    Never have so many been influenced so much by so few
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • twotoebennytwotoebenny Posts: 759
    Amen
  • m.r.m.m.r.m. Posts: 1,644
    salsiccia1 wrote:
    LEST WE FORGET

    In memoriam

    OBJECTIVITY, REASONABLENESS and BALANCE

    Paid the ultimate sacrifìce on the fields of the Internet
    To bring freedom to extremists and trolls
    And allow their influence to affect all areas of thought
    To make everything black or white
    And no in between

    Never have so many been influenced so much by so few
    Quoted for the truth
    PTP Champion 2019
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