Another Power meter option post.
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Baroid wrote:Hi bristolpete
Thanks for update but want 172.5 cranks and the version for Shimano rings.
Cheers
Why do you want Shimano rings?I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0 -
Hi bristolpete.
Want Shimano rings as I already have them.
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Baroid wrote:Hi bristolpete.
Want Shimano rings as I already have them.
Cheers
Ahh I see you've got Shimano rings lying around and want to fit them to the Rotor cranks.
You could bring the price down by opting for the older Type S Rotor 3D24. That does L/R balance without any need to pay extra for it. 679 Euro for a Type S 3D24 with Praxis chainrings included. I have one fitted to my bike and haven't had to change the battery other than once in over 2 years. It never loses connection with my device and needs no recalibrating same as the newer models. You don't see Type S P2Ms coming up for sale on eBay very often for one reason; they're good.
https://www.power2max.com/en/product/ty ... crank-set/
You don't need the installation tool as the crank set should come assembled. You just fit the chainrings with allen keys.I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0 -
It's not out just now, but if you can wait and you're looking for a crank-based PM that can be set up for, and swapped easily between, 2 bikes, and that's not too expensive, then the WatTeam PowerBeat G3 2x2 looks good at a little over £500.0
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JoeNobody wrote:It's not out just now, but if you can wait and you're looking for a crank-based PM that can be set up for, and swapped easily between, 2 bikes, and that's not too expensive, then the WatTeam PowerBeat G3 2x2 looks good at a little over £500.
Sorry, but I wouldn't fancy destroying the finish on my crank arms.I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0 -
The WatTeam PowerBeat G3 2x2 is starting to look interesting. Looks the simplest method to swap between bikes.
It might drive down prices when they start shipping0 -
True enough. Competitive solutions aside, I worked out it would cost close to £400, at current exchange rates, for the 2x2 if you can buy in the States (and are less than honest at customs :shock:) from Clever Training, using the DCR 10% discount code.Baroid wrote:It might drive down prices when they start shipping0 -
Or you could buy it from clevertraining UK, fairly sure they also have the DCR 10% off-
http://www.clevertraining.co.uk/watteam ... ower-meter
Although you need to find a willing accomplice as right now they only have the two pack in stock.0 -
Of course, but as you say, they're not showing on the .co.uk site just yet. Would still be more expensive than buying in the US, but would be easier in terms of returns, if necessary.TimothyW wrote:Or you could buy it from clevertraining UK, fairly sure they also have the DCR 10% off-
http://www.clevertraining.co.uk/watteam ... ower-meter
Although you need to find a willing accomplice as right now they only have the two pack in stock.0 -
Baroid wrote:The WatTeam PowerBeat G3 2x2 is starting to look interesting. Looks the simplest method to swap between bikes.
It might drive down prices when they start shipping
But it looks hideous and no matter what it claims, is not as simple as switching pm pedals (vector 3, favero assioma, powertap p1 etc).
This said, switching crank or full chainset power meters isn't exactly hard either.0 -
Eh? Have you looked at how it works? You have strain gauges that are glued to your cranks - 2 sets, 1 for each bike, that plug in to computer pods (handles battery, data capture and data transmission). The computer pods are detachable. You just unplug the pods from one bike and fit them to the other. No tools, no hassle.redvision wrote:is not as simple as switching pm pedals.
The limitation with this setup is that you can only have it on your 2 chosen bikes, unless you want to swap chainsets, and if you want/need to upgrade your chainset you can't move the strain gauge. There's no indication whether they plan to release a "strain gauge only" kit.0 -
JoeNobody wrote:
Eh? Have you looked at how it works? You have strain gauges that are glued to your cranks - 2 sets, 1 for each bike, that plug in to computer pods (handles battery, data capture and data transmission). The computer pods are detachable. You just unplug the pods from one bike and fit them to the other. No tools, no hassle.redvision wrote:is not as simple as switching pm pedals.
The limitation with this setup is that you can only have it on your 2 chosen bikes, unless you want to swap chainsets, and if you want/need to upgrade your chainset you can't move the strain gauge. There's no indication whether they plan to release a "strain gauge only" kit.
Exactly. That's why pedal based power meters are easier and better. It doesn't matter what bike you are on, you just switch them over. Takes all but a second.
Anyway, main issue I see with the powerbeat is how it looks. The p1 pedals were slated for their appearance, as were the favero and earlier garmin pedals. But the powerbeat look worse and that alone will put people off, unless they price them very aggressively.0 -
Easier than doing what it pretty much the same as plugging or unplugging your phone to charge? Better is subjective. If you have 2 bikes, and can live with the limitations, then this is at least as good, if not better.redvision wrote:Exactly. That's why pedal based power meters are easier and better. It doesn't matter what bike you are on, you just switch them over. Takes all but a second.
Looks are also subjectiveBut the powerbeat look worse and that alone will put people off, unless they price them very aggressively.
Pricing is pretty aggressive though - the 2x2 has an RRP of £540 0 -
Depends on how you look at it. The PB Dual is £370, Single £270. That's cheaper than the Assiomas. Not quite as portable but, by your own admission, it's not too complicated to swap out chainsets. Maybe the extra £100+ for the Assiomas is worth it for going beyond just 2 bikes more easily than a chainset/crank option can. My understanding that the fitting process for the Vector 2s is tricky, so may not appeal, despite bargains being available. My hope is that the PB release will have a knock-on effect on the pricing of other units.redvision wrote:Not that aggressive really though. It falls in the same price category as the favero pedals and are more expensive than the vector 2 cost today.
Quite. I'm torn - I'm not planning to get a PM this year, but maybe next year. The Vector 3s appeal, if they can fix the battery cover issue, mainly because I have other Garmin kit I'm happy with, so I'm happy to stay with the brand. The Assiomas are a good option, for reasons we've both stated, and they're cheaper than the Vectors. I'm not put off by the looks or the limitations of the Powerbeat - I very rarely ride something other than one of my two bikes, but that's not to say that won't change. Their big downfall is chainset support - I currently have FSA on one of my bikes, and they're not supported, so would have to change them.Anyway, each to their own and all that.0 -
JoeNobody wrote:The Vector 3s appeal, if they can fix the battery cover issue
AVOID AVOID AVOID!
I have had an absolute nightmare with mine, and like many others, so far the new battery covers have not resolved the issue.
I think Garmin may be struggling to identify what exactly is causing all the issues, as for all of those who are having problems, even with the new doors, there are others who have had no issues. It really does seem to be hit and miss.
Anyway, i'm pushing for a refund and i wouldn't recommend them to anyone.0
