Any advice for going tubeless?

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  • zefs
    zefs Posts: 484
    To give an example of how easy the installation is on the Ksyrium UST I was able to swap the tires (front and back) with the sealant still in them, just to get a bit more tire life.
  • flycop2000
    flycop2000 Posts: 55
    I have been running tubeless for a year and got my first puncture last week, it sealed within 20 seconds. Downside was sealant spray over the frame and my leg :lol:
  • ben@31
    ben@31 Posts: 2,327
    If you still have to carry a puncture repair kit and those worm things(?) is there any advantage in going tubeless ? Genuine question, Ive never used them.
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  • Camcycle1974
    Camcycle1974 Posts: 1,356
    ben@31 wrote:
    If you still have to carry a puncture repair kit and those worm things(?) is there any advantage in going tubeless ? Genuine question, Ive never used them.

    I just take the worms and a pump. Why do you need a repair kit? Even if you did it's a lot less bulky than an inner tube.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    this is not the solution we hoped it would be...
  • zefs
    zefs Posts: 484
    ben@31 wrote:
    If you still have to carry a puncture repair kit and those worm things(?) is there any advantage in going tubeless ? Genuine question, Ive never used them.

    Less rolling resistance, more comfort and no pinch punctures.
  • Poppa Wheelie
    Poppa Wheelie Posts: 95
    ben@31 wrote:
    is there any advantage in going tubeless ? Genuine question, Ive never used them.

    As I've said on hear before, an inner tube can burst like a kids party balloon, the so called blow out which killed people back in the days when cars used inner tubes. On a bike this is fine if it happens at low speed but it's another matter if it happens when you are at full chat going down a steep hill.
    Flycop2000 wrote:
    I have been running tubeless for a year and got my first puncture last week, it sealed within 20 seconds. Downside was sealant spray over the frame and my leg :lol:

    It's better to have sealant sprayed all over yourself than have a liberal coating if gravel rash due to losing control following a rapid deflation.
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    In a proper tubeless set up the tyres locks into the rim and has to be forced off with real force this means you can ride the tyre flat and it won't unseat.

    Mavuc intend it to be that way because they understand what a tubeless tyre and rim fit is meant to be like. Dt Swiss have yet to learn.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • Streetdoctor
    Streetdoctor Posts: 10
    ZMC888 wrote:
    I've spent 10 years on MTB tubeless and just completed around a year on road tubeless. Personally I wouldn't bother with road tubeless just yet.

    I'm lazy so for easy reading here is a bullet point opinion of road tubeless vs MTB tubeless.

    -MTB tubeless is a no-brainer because you are off-road and there is more debris like thorns and sharp rocks.
    -Road tubeless tires are between expensnive and insanely expensive.
    -There is no 'go to' road tubeless tire like Conti GP4000S2. Some are fast and weak (Pro one) others are tougher but it's a bit of a crapshoot.
    -There is no standardised size for road 'tubeless ready', some tire rim combinations could be dangerously loose or need loads of tape, others impossibly too tight to mount.
    -Many sealant manufacturers believe that sealants made for MTB automatically work for road, but they don't, Stans and dozens of other rebranded Stans (Schwalbe Blue etc) won't seal reliably above about 40psi. Only Orange Sealant and MAYBE a few others work reliably at higher pressures.
    -If you are not very heavy and your roads are fairly clean you don't deseperately need road tubeless.
    -Road tubeless isn't any lighter and often is heavier vs tube clincher.
    -Some sealants aren't compatible with CO2.

    I think road tubeless will be the future, but rims need to be sealed from the factory, sealants need to improve to be road specific and tire/rim sizes need to be standardised.


    hmmm I've been on road tubeless for two years, 6 tires and two wheelsets all set up without issue with just a floor pump (not a fancy tubeless one either). I use about 25ml of orange seal. Haven't had a flat in that time either. I don't even carry a tube/plug/CO2/etc. anymore unless it's a big remote ride. As for mtb'ing I race cat 1 enduro and usually place top 5, since I've been running tire inserts (cushcore) I haven't had a flat either. Tubeless is the future and it's here now :)
  • velokev
    velokev Posts: 20
    zefs wrote:
    To give an example of how easy the installation is on the Ksyrium UST I was able to swap the tires (front and back) with the sealant still in them, just to get a bit more tire life.

    This is my experience too - but it seems they may have messed up on the cometes - shame because I was just about to buy a set!

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