Scheldeprijs 2018 Wednesday 4th April *SPOILERS*

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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,786
    Kittel with a mechanical, but 45k to go
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  • Sun Dodger
    Sun Dodger Posts: 393
    Well, this one turned quite dull quite fast...
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,738
    Kittel mechanical at 10km to go.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,738
    Kittel's given up the chase.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,738
    Sunweb chasing.

    Jos van Enden attacks. but even he's not given more than 30m.

    It's gonna be a weird sprint.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,738
    Quick step train now takes over, presumably for Morkov. Could be for Stybar.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,738
    Not stybar, he takes over from Keisse at 1.4km.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,738
    Sieberg takes over for lotto at 800m.

    Debuserrere on his wheel. Sprint....

    Jakobson wins for..........Quick Step!
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  • Sun Dodger
    Sun Dodger Posts: 393
    edited April 2018
    Nice of Kittel to make things a bit more interesting.

    Even if QS do nothing in Roubaix, they could wrap up their season now and be happy.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,738
    Another Dutchie ;).
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  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,786
    QS, why did we ever think otherwise?
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,816
    Kirby manages to keep quiet about the dqfs, only for their ticker to give away the result. :oops:
    A fitting result it is too.
    By crikey, imagine if Sky were this dominant in stage races.
    Twitter would go into thermal meltdown.
    Are Quick Step going to let another team win anything, this Spring?
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,738
    Milan San Remo was enough ;).
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  • Sun Dodger
    Sun Dodger Posts: 393
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Another Dutchie ;).

    You'd never guess it from his name would you?
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,786
    Chris Lawless 3rd. Not a high scoring PTP day !
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Are Quick Step going to let another team win anything, this Spring?

    Demare will wrest Roubaix from them on Sunday ( assuming he isn't banned due to train related idiocy).
    Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,935
    Looks like Demare was one of the riders who rode off to try to rejoin the race after the riders were DQ'd.....
    Guess he might not be at P-R.
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    I haven't seen the incident but fair play to the commisaires for putting their foot down.

    I thought it was strange that a Scheldeprijs spoiler had gone past 1 page.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,816
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    Looks like Demare was one of the riders who rode off to try to rejoin the race after the riders were DQ'd.....
    Guess he might not be at P-R.

    It didn't look like that to me.
    He and Tony Martin rode off all right.
    Up a bit of a lane that was heading towards the motorway.
    To rejoin the race he would have had to turn around and go backwards.
    His team car was on the scene quickly and that looked to be that.

    Not sure why folks are speculating about further race bans.
    Could face fines and possible suspension, but unless the UCI pull a Luke Rowe, that's a chunk of riders to sideline.

    Anyhow, here is the incident and the ride away in the video underneath.

    https://twitter.com/BrainOnWheels/statu ... 7477937153
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,158
    Blazing Saddles wrote:

    Not sure why folks are speculating about further race bans.
    Because bizarrely some people really like to see riders banned.

    No-one's getting banned. There is provision for it, but it wasn't intentional
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,935
    RichN95 wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:

    Not sure why folks are speculating about further race bans.
    Because bizarrely some people really like to see riders banned.

    No-one's getting banned. There is provision for it, but it wasn't intentional

    What do you mean it wasn't intentional?
    Riders know the rules around level crossings, and a large number chose to deliberately ignore those rules to gain advantage over the rest of the peloton.
    They certainly need fining, and anyone that rode off trying to ignore the DQ should face a short ban.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,158
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:

    Not sure why folks are speculating about further race bans.
    Because bizarrely some people really like to see riders banned.

    No-one's getting banned. There is provision for it, but it wasn't intentional

    What do you mean it wasn't intentional?
    Riders know the rules around level crossings, and a large number chose to deliberately ignore those rules to gain advantage over the rest of the peloton.
    They certainly need fining, and anyone that rode off trying to ignore the DQ should face a short ban.
    Cyclists don't ride along looking at road signs and other things you do when driving. They're focused on the race the riders around them. It's unlikely anyone noticed the warning lights.

    Intentional would be riding around or ducking under barriers that were on their way down or already down.
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  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Kirby manages to keep quiet about the dqfs, only for their ticker to give away the result. :oops:
    A fitting result it is too.
    By crikey, imagine if Sky were this dominant in stage races.
    Twitter would go into thermal meltdown.
    Are Quick Step going to let another team win anything, this Spring?


    if they win on Sunday it would be a total embarrasment for every other team. good racing though, its not all the same formula (although it might be :D )
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    i think the train thing is a grey area when the group is like that.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,935
    RichN95 wrote:
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:

    Not sure why folks are speculating about further race bans.
    Because bizarrely some people really like to see riders banned.

    No-one's getting banned. There is provision for it, but it wasn't intentional

    What do you mean it wasn't intentional?
    Riders know the rules around level crossings, and a large number chose to deliberately ignore those rules to gain advantage over the rest of the peloton.
    They certainly need fining, and anyone that rode off trying to ignore the DQ should face a short ban.
    Cyclists don't ride along looking at road signs and other things you do when driving. They're focused on the race the riders around them. It's unlikely anyone noticed the warning lights.

    Intentional would be riding around or ducking under barriers that were on their way down or already down.

    Barriers were well on their way down for the back half of the group Rich.
    Anyway, the relevant peeps will deal with it.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,816
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Dorset Boy wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:

    Not sure why folks are speculating about further race bans.
    Because bizarrely some people really like to see riders banned.

    No-one's getting banned. There is provision for it, but it wasn't intentional

    What do you mean it wasn't intentional?
    Riders know the rules around level crossings, and a large number chose to deliberately ignore those rules to gain advantage over the rest of the peloton.
    They certainly need fining, and anyone that rode off trying to ignore the DQ should face a short ban.
    Cyclists don't ride along looking at road signs and other things you do when driving. They're focused on the race the riders around them. It's unlikely anyone noticed the warning lights.

    Intentional would be riding around or ducking under barriers that were on their way down or already down.

    Barriers were well on their way down for the back half of the group Rich.
    Anyway, the relevant peeps will deal with it.


    But still fully up for Demare and the front half.

    Anyhow, besides the fact that he is one of Frances big cheeses, do you really expect the UCI to sideline this lot, given the pressure already on squads to put out teams?


    Tony Martin (Ger) Katusha-Alpecin
    Rüdiger Selig (Ger) Bora-Hansgrohe
    Davide Martinelli (Ita) Quick-Step Floors
    Lars Bak (Den) Lotto Soudal
    Dylan Groenewegen (Ned) LottoNL-Jumbo
    Timo Roosen (Ned) LottoNL-Jumbo
    Amund Grøndahl Jansen (Nor) LottoNL-Jumbo
    Christian Knees (Ger) Team Sky
    Ian Stannard (GBr) Team Sky
    Roy Curvers (Ned) Team Sunweb
    Lennard Hofstede (Ned) Team Sunweb
    Arnaud Demare (Fra) Groupama-FDJ
    Riccardo Minali (Ita) Astana Pro Team
    Hugo Houle (Can) Astana Pro Team
    Kim Magnusson (Swe) EF Education First-Drapac p/b Cannondale
    Conor Dunne (Irl) Aqua Blue Sport
    Michaël Van Staeyen (Bel) Cofidis, Solutions Credits
    Jimmy Turgis (Fra) Cofidis, Solutions Credits
    Michael Carbel (Den) Fortuneo-Oscaro
    Florian Vachon (Fra) Fortuneo-Oscaro
    Sjoerd van Ginneken (Ned) Roompot-Nederlandse Loterij
    Amaury Capiot (Bel) Sport Vlaanderen-Baloise
    Jordi Warlop (Bel) Sport Vlaanderen-Baloise
    Dries De Bondt (Bel) Veranda's Willems Crelan
    Mathias De Witte (Bel) Veranda's Willems Crelan
    Kris Boeckmans (Bel) Vital Concept Club
    Steven Lammertink (Ned) Vital Concept Club
    Wesley Kreder (Ned) Wanty-Groupe Gobert
    Kevin Van Melsen (Bel) Wanty-Groupe Gobert
    Jimmy Duquennoy (Bel) WB Aqua Protect Veranclassic
    Michal Paluta (Pol) CCC Sprandi Polkowice
    Jonas Koch (Ger) CCC Sprandi Polkowice
    Adrian Kurek (Pol) CCC Sprandi Polkowice
    Patryk Stosz (Pol) CCC Sprandi Polkowice
    Tanner Putt (USA) UnitedHealthcare Pro Cycling
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 21,816
    Demare not a happy bunny, so he vents in the now customary Groupama-FDJ manner.

    http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racin ... ons-375423

    Other riders make the obvious point about slamming the anchors on, at a level crossing, that I mentioned earlier today.
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  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Did Van shit of the stupid bars get banned?
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 8,744
    It's impossible to say with certainty if they all knew the barriers were going to come down but I'd be surprised if 95% plus of them didn't if these things are like crossings in the UK.

    I don't want to see them banned though, chucking them off the race is probably a big enough statement to let riders know it wont be tolerated.
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  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    youd think it would be noted in the riders course notes as a caution point to highlight much like a climb or a feed zone is, it is after all if much like UK crossings going to be a fair whack on a skinny bike tyre to take if you hit it completely unaware at 60kph,and there are substantial bits of metal in the way to avoid.

    I know they are busy staring at stems and backwheels so not paying as much attention to flashing lights in the scenery, so should a DS be shouting in their ear telling them to be sure its not coming down when they approach,or maybe the marginal gain is check a timetable and work it out when the trains cross :)

    also Im sure I saw there a stage or race on Tuesday, where a rider finishing 31st or 32nd ended up winning because the first 30odd riders got disqualified for doing the same train crossing thing ?

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