Rejecting a 2nd hand car ?

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  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    I had this problem once. I called trading standards and they told me even though I had it less than a month there was nothing I could do. The cylinder head cracked. So I don't think you have any recourse.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • Frank Wilson
    Frank Wilson Posts: 930
    Pross wrote:
    Frank Wilson wrote:
    I think some of you are not living in the real world. A starter car like a basic Fiesta is nearly 15k new, what are you people expecting for 2k.

    It's a cheap and cheerful runaround that's all, if the op had spent some real money and bought a decent car I may have some sympathy for him / her. As it is he / she has bought an old banger.

    So let me get this right. Are you saying that although the law and consumer rights are on his side and the faults must be repaired or he can hand the car back he should just take it on the chin and either scrap the car or potentially spend more repairing it than it is worth? Is that what you would do? If that's your idea of the real world I'm quite happy not to be living in it.

    Most people on here have spent more than the purchase price of this car on a bloody push bike with a fraction of the engineering that goes into a car. Things go wrong and for want of repeating myself the op has stated his desire to reject the vehicle before giving the seller a chance to sort the problem which to me suggests the op regrets buying the car in the first place and is looking for a way out of the purchase.
  • tangled_metal
    tangled_metal Posts: 4,021
    AFAIK the fault was something that was likely there when sold and was a serious issue for safety. IMHO brakes are a safety feature that has to be right. I'm pretty certain trading standards would be interested if a garage frequently sells cars that have safety issues without fixing them according to consumer rights.

    Whatever the value of the car there are legal rights for the purchaser. There is never anything wrong with people asking for advice on their legal rights. There are consumer rights applicable to things from expensive bikes (cheap ones too) to used cars. If you're advocating consumer rights should be put to one side based on value of used cars then I think you're completely wrong. We don't need dodgy car dealerships selling cars that aren't safe. Even if the fault wasn't there at time of sale I believe consumer rights legislation requires trade vendor to still put it right. The op needed to find out about those rights and for that you think he should just shut up and accept he's bought a duff, old banger. It comes across that way I think
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    The abs warning light is possible just the sensor. if the car was sold with an MOT the Abs light only has to turn off for the test then a pass.

    what is the evidence for burning oil. I have had a car with a 2.2l Mercedes CRD engine from new and it drank oil like a fish in a oil slick. this however was normal. some engines do consume oil so before you go rejecting the car you do have to know what the fault is. if there is blue smoke in the exhaust then thata big problem if it is just drinking oil then that could be the engine. leaks will be obvious as oil will pool somewhere. burning is obvious as there will be smoke but oil comsumption for some engines is just normal.

    I think you dont have a keg to stand on.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,542
    Frank Wilson wrote:
    Things go wrong and for want of repeating myself the op has stated his desire to reject the vehicle before giving the seller a chance to sort the problem

    That's weird as on my screen the OP says he has returned the car to be sorted but that they haven't got back to him which is why he is now looking into the process for rejecting it.
  • Frank Wilson
    Frank Wilson Posts: 930
    Pross wrote:
    Frank Wilson wrote:
    Things go wrong and for want of repeating myself the op has stated his desire to reject the vehicle before giving the seller a chance to sort the problem

    That's weird as on my screen the OP says he has returned the car to be sorted but that they haven't got back to him which is why he is now looking into the process for rejecting it.

    Well on my screen he is due an "update on Saturday" which is tomorrow, hence I say again he has not given the seller an opportunity to sort the problem. I don't know how much clearer you want me to be.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,542
    Frank Wilson wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    Frank Wilson wrote:
    Things go wrong and for want of repeating myself the op has stated his desire to reject the vehicle before giving the seller a chance to sort the problem

    That's weird as on my screen the OP says he has returned the car to be sorted but that they haven't got back to him which is why he is now looking into the process for rejecting it.

    Well on my screen he is due an "update on Saturday" which is tomorrow, hence I say again he has not given the seller an opportunity to sort the problem. I don't know how much clearer you want me to be.

    From the very first post
    Obviously this is a bit presumptive as they may well come back to me within the next day or so saying its all fixed and I get a perfectly functional car.

    He is just looking at what to do if this doesn't happen although he did say he was 'tempted' to just reject it. The update iis after a chase as nothing has happened yet with looking at the faults. At no point has done any of the things you said in your first post on this subject but you could always continue taking the Trump tactic that if you say something vociferously and often enough then it becomes fact.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Frank Wilson wrote:
    I think some of you are not living in the real world. A starter car like a basic Fiesta is nearly 15k new, what are you people expecting for 2k.

    It's a cheap and cheerful runaround that's all, if the op had spent some real money and bought a decent car I may have some sympathy for him / her. As it is he / she has bought an old banger.

    A friend of mine bought an old Micra with 11k on the clock and near mint for £500 so for £2k I'd certainly be quite happy to expect no faults. I think you might not be living in the real world - there are tons of very smart cars (ie far from bangers) around for £2k that have next to nothing (or nothing) wrong with them. Just because new cars are expensive doesn't mean used cars are valuable and a well chosen £2k car can be more reliable than a new car.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • tangled_metal
    tangled_metal Posts: 4,021
    Our car is probably worth South of £2k but it's very reliable. If it had an Abs warning light I would take it to the garage. If I had just bought it and the ABS warning light came on I'd take it to the garage I bought it from to let them investigate, correct or offer me an alternative solution as appropriate. I would however have the foresight to investigate my legal position and the best way to get a satisfactory outcome as per my consumer rights. I would do that from shortly after dropping the car off. That is a prudent course of action. I can see no version of reality that it is not sensible to look at your rights in such a situation.

    BTW I did once have an issue with a recent car purchase (a £5k Ford escort). I took it to the garage to be fixed because it wasn't something I thought they were at fault not to spot. I got a repair done and no charge. The courtesy car was owned by the garage salesman. I had to drop him off in the nearest town (where I lived) to catch the train home. The next day he had a half hour walk along an A road which didn't have a footway next to it.

    You see service can be good at times from garages but you can be unlucky. It is at those times you need to rely of awareness of your consumer rights.

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