PTP 2018

dish_dash
dish_dash Posts: 5,642
edited October 2018 in Pro race
Alright folks, it's PTP time!

No changes to the format or races (though I did wonder about putting in Tour de Yorkshire).
Will still run a World Cup covering the spring classics.

Anyone able to help with the scoring? Please volunteer and let me know what you can or can't do, particularly the GTs. It's very simple and I'll send you a googlesheet template closer to the day.

PTP Races

February
24 - Omloop Het Nieuswsblad* - dish_dash
25 - Kuurne Brussels Kuurne* - dish_dash

March
3 - Strade Bianche* - Red.Rider
4-11 - Paris Nice - RichN95
7-13 - Tirreno-Adriatico - RidgeRider
17 - Milan San Remo* - bobmcstuff
23 - E3 Harelbeke* - gregster04
25 - Ghent Wevelgem* - ducknumber1

April
1 – Ronde van Vlaanderen* - dish_dash
4 – Scheldeprijs* - RidgeRider
8 - Paris Roubaix* - RichN95
15 - Amstel Gold* - bobmcstuff
18 - Fleche Wallone* - bobmcstuff
22 - Liege Bastogne Liege* - dish_dash
24-29 Tour de Romandie - Red.Rider

May
3-6 - Tour de Yorkshire - gregster04
5-27 - Giro d'Italia - ducknumber1

June
3-10 - Criterium du Dauphine - RichN95
9-17 - Tour de Suisse - bobmcstuff

July
7-29 Tour de France - RichN95
29 Ride London-SurreyClassic - ducknumber1

August
4 Classica San Sebastian - Red.Rider
13-19 BinkBank Tour - gregster04
25-16 - Vuelta a Espana - dish_dash

September
2-9 Tour of Britain - ducknumber1
25-30 World Championships (RR + TT, Men & Women) - dish_dash

October
7 - Paris Tours - Red.Rider
13 Il Lombardia - dish_dash

How to Play

Playing along with PTP is extremely simple - you don't have to sign up or join anything other than the Bikeradar forums. If you're already a member here, that means you're already eligible to play.

A few days before each of the chosen races, a PTP thread will be started in the Pro Race forum. That thread will contain a selection of useful links - start lists, race maps, past winners and so on. All you have to do is consider who you think is likely to win and post their name in that thread. It's that simple. If the race in question is a stage-race, you also get to predict the daily stage winners.

Post your pick in the relevant PTP thread before the cut off. If you change your mind then please post as a new post rather than editing your old post.

As you play, your scores will be added up and the overall season rankings will be updated in this thread.

We will also be running a PTP World Cup for the highest scores in 11 spring classics (marked by a * in the race list).

Scoring

TdF = Tour de France / G/V = Giro/Vuelta / Reg = Regular season

GC and one-day winners:

TdF | G/V | Reg
1 | 100 | 85 | 50 |
2 | 75 | 65 | 40 |
3 | 60 | 50 | 35 |
4 | 55 | 45 | 30 |
5 | 50 | 40 | 25 |
6 | 45 | 35 | 20 |
7 | 40 | 30 | 15 |
8 | 35 | 26 | 10 |
9 | 30 | 22 | 5 |
10 | 25 | 19 | 2 |
11 | 20 | 16 | |
12 | 15 | 13 | |
13 | 12 | 11 | |
14 | 10 | 9 | |
15 | 8 | 7 | |
16 | 6 | 5 | |
17 | 5 | 4 | |
18 | 4 | 3 | |
19 | 3 | 2 | |
20 | 2 | 1 | |

Stage winners:

TdF | G/V | Reg
1 | 12 | 10 | 6 |
2 | 10 | 8 | 5 |
3 | 8 | 6 | 4 |
4 | 7 | 5 | 3 |
5 | 6 | 4 | 2 |
6 | 5 | 3 | 1 |
7 | 4 | 2 | |
8 | 3 | 1 | |
9 | 2 | | |
10 | 1 | | |

Doping
Points are finalised once the race organisations publishes their results. No adjustments will be made if it later emerges that a rider has failed a drugs test or if a rider has wins retrospectively removed from his palmares.

Prediction Cut-off
Always the contentious one! The cut off is 12pm (noon) on the day of the race. This is strict so predictions at 12.01 won't be counted (exceptions made for split-stages, evening prologues etc). No GC selections will be accepted once a stage-race has begun.
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Comments

  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,398
    edited February 2018
    DM'd you but it seems to be hanging in my outbox...

    Can't do: Omloop, KBK, Paris-Nice, E3, Giro (away 1st week and middle of second week, happy to help if you need odd days/final week)

    No idea about the rest of it yet :D
  • ducknumber1
    ducknumber1 Posts: 1,172
    Happy to help out, can't currently do:

    Kuurne Brussels Kuurne
    Classica San Sebastian
  • gregster04
    gregster04 Posts: 1,753
    I'd have the TdY in there but then I might be a bit biased.

    I can't do Fleche or Ride London but I'm free to do anything else. I did Paris-Nice and the Tour of Britain last year but am happy to do something else so we can cover the lot.
  • ducknumber1
    ducknumber1 Posts: 1,172
    gregster04 wrote:
    I'd have the TdY in there but then I might be a bit biased

    + several

    I quite like PTP

    I quite like TDY

    All other posts should be disregarded (some would say they should too).
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    I think I did some good supplementary work curating the Giro last year. So I want the Tour this year. And I suppose the Dauphine has to go with that
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,398
    RichN95 wrote:
    I think I did some good supplementary work curating the Giro last year. So I want the Tour this year. And I suppose the Dauphine has to go with that
    Hey I did the tour last year. Are you saying something????
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,241
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    I think I did some good supplementary work curating the Giro last year. So I want the Tour this year. And I suppose the Dauphine has to go with that
    Hey I did the tour last year. Are you saying something????
    You were wonderful. I'm just pitching ongoing yellow jerseys and awarding of other jerseys.

    I'm no Dumoulin. I want a shot at the big show.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • gregster04
    gregster04 Posts: 1,753
    RichN95 wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    I think I did some good supplementary work curating the Giro last year. So I want the Tour this year. And I suppose the Dauphine has to go with that
    Hey I did the tour last year. Are you saying something????
    You were wonderful. I'm just pitching ongoing yellow jerseys and awarding of other jerseys.

    I'm no Dumoulin. I want a shot at the big show.

    No rumours of an adverse statistical finding then?
  • red.rider
    red.rider Posts: 1,187
    Happy to help with the scoring if needed. Thanks in advance for organising!
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,642
    Thanks everyone for volunteering! I've added TdY by popular request (you can score it too gregster). Provisional scoring allocation in the first post. Let me know if any don't work for you, or if you actually really wanted to score a particular race.
  • Pleased the TDY is in there.

    Pleased so many people will still be involved.

    I think this is my 11th PTP season, I'm fully prepped for it
  • ducknumber1
    ducknumber1 Posts: 1,172
    RichN95 wrote:
    I think I did some good supplementary work curating the Giro last year. So I want the Tour this year. And I suppose the Dauphine has to go with that

    Feeling the pressure to follow this, must get some training in now.
  • ridgerider
    ridgerider Posts: 2,852
    Only just spotted this...can score if required, just say if needed.
    Half man, Half bike
  • gregster04
    gregster04 Posts: 1,753
    dish_dash wrote:
    Thanks everyone for volunteering! I've added TdY by popular request (you can score it too gregster). Provisional scoring allocation in the first post. Let me know if any don't work for you, or if you actually really wanted to score a particular race.

    I can do my races, if anyone needs to swap that is fine although I'm not keen on giving up the TdY now that it has been successfully incorporated!
  • gregster04
    gregster04 Posts: 1,753
    Double post
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,526
    Adding Tirreno–Adriatico would be good although I am not able to score this year.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,642
    The convention was that we didn't double up races. Think that largely stems from when one person ran the whole show.

    With multiple scorers I'm happy to add Tirreno-Adriatico. RidgeRider, you can do it and I've also given you Scheldeprijs. TheBigBean can buy you a beer next time ;)
  • ridgerider
    ridgerider Posts: 2,852
    Win win!
    Half man, Half bike
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,642
    Welcome to PTP Rounds 1 and 2

    Results here

    WC and Overall PTP top 10 the same, the appropriately named springclassic takes the early lead.

    springclassic - 85
    RichN95 - 50
    OCDuPalais - 50
    Key - 50
    ShutupJens - 50
    Cruff - 50
    RidgeRider - 50
    Gweeds - 50
    rozzer32 - 50
    Dav1d1 - 50
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    joint last. Is there a prize of lantern rouge ?
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,642
    On to PTP Rounds 3 (Strade Bianche) and 4 (Paris Nice)

    With Paris Nice results in we diverge between the World Cup and the overall GC.

    WC Results here
    GC Results here

    GC Top 10
    niknak1 - 114
    springclassic - 105
    ShutupJens - 93
    inseine - 91
    OCDuPalais - 87
    Dialatron - 81
    Milton50 - 78
    RichN95 - 68
    archieboy - 68
    stanislav - 68

    WC Top 10
    springclassic- 95
    ShutupJens - 80
    OCDuPalais - 80
    niknak1 - 75
    Dialatron - 65
    Milton50 - 65
    RichN95 -65
    Key - 60
    Cal_Stewart - 55
    inseine - 50
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,642
    On to PTP Rounds 5 (Tirreno Adriatico) and 6 (Milan Sanremo)

    Some variance emerging between the World Cup leaderboard, still led by springclassic while niknack1 consolidates their GC lead

    WC Results here
    GC Results here

    GC Top 10
    niknak1 - 176
    stanislav - 156
    OCDuPalais - 150
    archieboy - 144
    springclassic - 142
    inseine - 135
    Dialatron - 124
    ShutupJens - 123
    Milton50 - 119
    rozzer32 -114

    WC Top 10
    springclassic - 115
    niknak1 - 110
    OCDuPalais- 110
    ShutupJens - 100
    Cal_Stewart - 90
    inseine - 85
    Dialatron - 85
    Milton50 - 85
    RichN95 - 85
    dish_dash - 80
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,642
    Rounds 7 (E3) and Round 8 (Gent Wevelgem)

    WC Results
    GC Results

    niknack1 pushes into the lead in both competitions

    WC Top 10
    niknak1 175
    inseine 160
    Milton50 160
    springclassic 155
    ShockedSoShocked 155
    SpeedingSloth 155
    Key 145
    ContrelaMontre 140
    Dialatron 135
    TheBigBean 120

    GC Top 10
    niknak1 241
    inseine 210
    ShockedSoShocked 198
    Milton50 194
    springclassic 182
    stanislav 181
    archieboy 179
    Dialatron 174
    ContrelaMontre 174
    SpeedingSloth 167
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,642
    Results after Round 9 - the Ronde van Vlaandren

    WC Results

    GC Results

    WC Top 10
    springclassic 190
    Milton50 180
    ShockedSoShocked 180
    niknak1 175
    inseine 170
    Dialatron 170
    ContrelaMontre 165
    SpeedingSloth 155
    Key 145
    RonB 140

    GC Top 10
    niknak1 241
    ShockedSoShocked 223
    inseine 220
    springclassic 217
    Milton50 214
    Dialatron 209
    stanislav 201
    archieboy 199
    ContrelaMontre 199
    OCDuPalais 175
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,642
    Alright so the situation after Round 10 (Schelderpris, which was a washout) and Round 11 (Paris Roubaix).

    WC Results

    In the World Cup, it's been a low scoring season and a Sagan pick sped up the sleeping sloth and moved Speeding Sloth into the lead with ContrelaMontre also living by their name and playing a negative split. Springclassic slips down to third. Three rounds to go with 150 points to play for so plenty could still happen...

    WC Top 10
    SpeedingSloth 205
    ContrelaMontre 200
    springclassic 195
    Milton50 185
    ShockedSoShocked 180
    rozzer32 180
    niknak1 175
    RonB 175
    inseine 170
    Dialatron 170

    GC Results

    A shake up in the top 10 here too with ContrelaMontre climbing up to second closely marked by rozzer32

    GC Top 10
    niknak1 241
    ContrelaMontre 234
    rozzer32 224
    ShockedSoShocked 223
    springclassic 222
    stanislav 221
    inseine 220
    Milton50 219
    SpeedingSloth 217
    Dialatron 209
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,642
    Folks, we have a winner. A late surge drives inseine to the front of the pack and he is the 2018 PTP World Cup Champion!

    Final WC Results

    Top 10
    inseine 280
    SpeedingSloth 275
    ContrelaMontre 265
    springclassic 260
    Milton50 227
    ShockedSoShocked 220
    rozzer32 220
    RonB 215
    Key 210
    TheBigBean 205

    So inseine takes the lead in the GC as well...

    GC Results

    Top 10
    inseine 360
    springclassic 282
    SpeedingSloth 267
    ContrelaMontre 264
    archieboy 264
    ShockedSoShocked 263
    Milton50 258
    niknak1 256
    stanislav 241
    Dialatron 234
  • RonB
    RonB Posts: 3,984
    Thanks dish_dash. Could someone add my PR score to the GC please. Ta
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Thanks for all your hard work dish. Now in feeling the pressure to keep it up !
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,642
    RonB wrote:
    Thanks dish_dash. Could someone add my PR score to the GC please. Ta

    Done, apologies. Dodgy formula which has been fixed. Thanks for spotting it! Wasn't just you that was missing points.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,642
    Updated after Stage 15 Tour de Romandie

    Results

    Top 10
    inseine 391
    springclassic 347
    SpeedingSloth 345
    archieboy 328
    rozzer32 326
    Milton50 322
    niknak1 322
    stanislav 320
    ContrelaMontre 318
    RonB 301