Salsa Cutthroat

lettingthedaysgoby

Keep coming back to this thread for another look.

Such a cool looking bike.

vespario

Not my thing at all.....but have to say that this bike iS amazing. One of my fav bikes on the forum.
Fair play to you. If it rides as good as it looks ...WOW!!

grant2307

I love that!

Cheshire Cat

vespario wrote:

Not my thing at all.....but have to say that this bike iS amazing. One of my fav bikes on the forum.
Fair play to you. If it rides as good as it looks ...WOW!!

Thanks, rode 400km on it at the weekend, rides very well, and very comfortable.

Cheshire Cat

Grant2307 wrote:

I love that!

Cheers, it is a bit Marmite for a lot of folk though.

luv2ride

I do really like that. How do you get on with the Cowchippers? I'm tempted to get a pair, as wider flare than my Cowbells. 46mm is pretty wide though, no? Im on 42mm Cowbells, and was thinking 44cm Cowchippers, mainly to avoid interfering with my bar bag!

Cheshire Cat

Luv2ride wrote:

I do really like that. How do you get on with the Cowchippers? I'm tempted to get a pair, as wider flare than my Cowbells. 46mm is pretty wide though, no? Im on 42mm Cowbells, and was thinking 44cm Cowchippers, mainly to avoid interfering with my bar bag!

I get on with them really well, initially they felt huge (which they are), but you soon begin to appreciate the control they give off road and the relaxed position they put your hands in when on the hoods - on the drops they are 49cm wide. It's easy to ride on the drops during long stretches, not for any aero-benefits (lets face it, you're not going to trouble any Strava segments), but for the relaxed position - as you're aware, the reach from hoods to drops is shallow. And bar space, fitting a bar-bag is no problem, there is no rubbing of the bag against your thumbs when riding on the hoods.

haydenm

Stunning bike that. Looks like the sort of thing that would scare the slow blokes on 'enduro' bikes at trail centres too (along with all it's excellent long distance capabilities)

pnev

Nice, I bet you ploughed through the Ford on Tinat... On my 32mm's - I did not

Doing the 600 next year then? ;-)

haydenm

Sexy/10. Very jealous

Matthewfalle wrote:

and mountain bikes with drops aren't really that new though are they?

No, they are called road bikes and come with varying max tyre widths...

Cheshire Cat

Pnev wrote:

Nice, I bet you ploughed through the Ford on Tinat... On my 32mm's - I did not

Doing the 600 next year then? ;-)

Hey, you're right, straight through the ford, that whole section up to, and around the reservoir was really good fun, but you had to back off a little as there was still a long way to go. I don't think the 600 will add anything that would make the day any better, the 400 was just the right distance to remain enjoyable.

HaydenM, cheers.

Just to really blur the boundaries, a bit of an upgrade.

Salsa Cutthroat by mapledocumentdesign, on Flickr

veronese68

Ooh nice, that’ll upset the purists.

Cheshire Cat

Veronese68 wrote:

Ooh nice, that’ll upset the purists.

No doubt someone will get a touch hot under the collar ...but, it's a great conversation starter, and a lot is just about breaking peoples perception of how not all bikes fit neat little boxes that determine one from the other, they're just bikes.

lettingthedaysgoby

Spoils the atheistic of the bike a bit to my eye, but enhances the practicality...

Still love it.

Vino'sGhost

that looks like a lit of fun, what does it ride like?

Also you have too much disposable income

Cheshire Cat

Vino'sGhost wrote:

that looks like a lit of fun, what does it ride like?

Also you have too much disposable income

Very comfortable on long rides, but with a good turn of speed on the road with the right tyres. Off-road it’s very lively, it may have 29er clearances, but it’s gravel bike geometry, not long and slack like many modern mtn bikes.

Too much disposable income, I wish, looking at some of the bikes on this forum there are many more folk splashing out far more than me on a bike.

Vino'sGhost

Nice, I’m planning on doing long off-road path rides ridgeway and South Downs etc in one day epics and I’m wondering what to ride. Rigid or hardtail. I think that would be good for that.

Fast sections and not too technical

haydenm

Any idea of weight with that setup? No doubt it'll be lighter than my CdF, and being an mtb enduro rider the closer it gets to an mtb the more I can abuse it with inappropriate line choice and speed...

I'm considering a dropper post for the CdF but as it'll also be used as a tourer I'm not sure I can be bothered with the unreliability

veronese68

Vino'sGhost wrote:

Also you have too much disposable income

You say that like it's a bad thing.

w00dster

Slightly off topic...Vino, having done both the Ridgeway and the South Downs Way on a rigid mountain bike and a CX Bike with 33mm knobbly tyres, my personal view is I'd only do them again on a hardtail. Loads of people ride them on gravel or CX bikes, but I prefer the comfort of a front suspension.

Vino'sGhost

w00dster wrote:

Slightly off topic...Vino, having done both the Ridgeway and the South Downs Way on a rigid mountain bike and a CX Bike with 33mm knobbly tyres, my personal view is I'd only do them again on a hardtail. Loads of people ride them on gravel or CX bikes, but I prefer the comfort of a front suspension.

Thanks, thats the way i was leaning

w00dster

Hi Cheshire Cat, how does the bike handle more technical trails? I know the geometry isn't as slack as a modern mtb but we all survived the 90s and 2000s!
For your longer rides with more "gnarr" would you not be tempted by a Loop Bar? Your bike with a loop bar would be my ultimate bike for endurance off-road riding.
Looks awesome as it is though and I'm mightily jealous!

Cheshire Cat

HaydenM wrote:

Any idea of weight with that setup? No doubt it'll be lighter than my CdF, and being an mtb enduro rider the closer it gets to an mtb the more I can abuse it with inappropriate line choice and speed

Hi, comes in at 25lb with SID’s on, you can knock a pound and a half off by fitting the original fork. The Mezcals probably a couple of hundred grammes over the G-Ones I run in the summer.

w00dster...as long as you ride with some conviction it handles technical trails very well, better than it has a right to really. Tyre choice matters of course, I like the Mezcal’s as they aren’t too draggy, wide bars help too, the Salsa Cowchippers fitted are 46cm wide at the hoods and flare out to 49.5cm when on the drops.

haydenm

Cheshire Cat wrote:

HaydenM wrote:

Any idea of weight with that setup? No doubt it'll be lighter than my CdF, and being an mtb enduro rider the closer it gets to an mtb the more I can abuse it with inappropriate line choice and speed

Hi, comes in at 25lb with SID’s on, you can knock a pound and a half off by fitting the original fork. The Mezcals probably a couple of hundred grammes over the G-Ones I run in the summer.

Well that is depressing, it's not much heavier than my CdF (in size midget)! Might have to sack of this wedding saving lark and buy one of those.

How do you find flared bars for aggressive riding? I'm always on the drops for descending and flared bars are meant to give more control, maybe not to the point that my renthals on the mtb do but still...

Cheshire Cat

HaydenM wrote:

Cheshire Cat wrote:

HaydenM wrote:

Any idea of weight with that setup? No doubt it'll be lighter than my CdF, and being an mtb enduro rider the closer it gets to an mtb the more I can abuse it with inappropriate line choice and speed

Hi, comes in at 25lb with SID’s on, you can knock a pound and a half off by fitting the original fork. The Mezcals probably a couple of hundred grammes over the G-Ones I run in the summer.

Well that is depressing, it's not much heavier than my CdF (in size midget)! Might have to sack of this wedding saving lark and buy one of those.

How do you find flared bars for aggressive riding? I'm always on the drops for descending and flared bars are meant to give more control, maybe not to the point that my renthals on the mtb do but still...

You won’t be getting another bike for a long time once wifey has her way

A flared bar is a much better option than a standard dropped bar, the additional width gives you more control, and as the Cowchipper is a shallow drop I find it very comfortable. If you get the opportunity it would be wise to check a few different profiles out, the Cowbell is less flared, but still allows clearance for your wrists and the shifters are in a more neutral position...the Cowchipper’s flare puts the shifters at a more acute angle, I find it ok, but I know some folk don’t.

RossoCorso34

Lovely looking road bike there! How does it compare to that other road bike of yours, the Slate?

Cheshire Cat

theboyfold wrote:

Lovely looking road bike there! How does it compare to that other road bike of yours, the Slate?

Cheers...they’re chalk and cheese. The Slate is quick handling, a bit of a handful if you’re not use to it, but great fun on singletrack, it has a good turn of speed on the road too. The Cutthroat is far more stable at speed and forgiving off-road, much more comfortable over long distances (as you’d expect, it’s what it was designed for). They serve different purposes, but both are great bikes in their own way.

Cheshire Cat

I wouldn’t do this on the Slate, doesn’t mean you can’t, just that the Cutthroat was designed specifically as a long distance, self supported race bike.

part time waster

Like the paint job. Can I ask what saddle is on it. I have yet to find one as good as my old Fizik Gobi from 10 years ago, they seem to have changed shape a bit

Thanks

Cheshire Cat

part time waster...it's a Specialized Power Saddle, very comfortable.