Net Neutrality
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Now that the US Net Neutrality law has been abolished. Is anyone concerned that the big telecommunications companies over here may push for the same thing.
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Having said that, ask me again in 3 years time and I wouldn't be so confident that they haven't started lobbying.
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Exactly my thoughts. Get Brexit out the way and all the telecommunications regulations will be up for review. As with the unnecessary HS2 or NHS privatisations there will be MPs who will be susceptible to or have vested interests in telecoms.
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That would make a good thread.
What makes it unnecessary in your opinion, Goo? Genuinely interested, not looking for an argument.
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Yes, it would make a good thread.
As someone who lives near to the East Midlands Hub, it's difficult to see any benefit in terms of travel when set against the impact it will have on the landscape and people.
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It will allow even more people to commute to London.
Firstly I'm really not sure that spending £65bn (current cost) of taxpayers money on a train line that will get from London to Manchester 15 minutes quicker than the current service is value for money.
Secondly the rolling stock is still essentially based on a Victorian technology of using metal wheels on metal track.
If HS2, 3 and 4 was going to be a Maglev or other new cutting edge system then I would be all for it.
Steel wheels on steel rails are actually pretty good. Maglevs are eye-wateringly expensive. If your concern is the cost of HS2, then maglevs are not the answer.
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Just pondering since the issue has been highlighted...
I am not sure. You have no chance.
Yes, the Nagoya - Tokyo magnetic rail was staggeringly expensive. $51bn for 286km.
..or £176000 per metre.
Seen as the economy is going to slow down after Brexit, perhaps a revamp and an extension of the current canal network would do the trick. All that excavation (with shovels) and building horse drawn barges; think of the employment it will create.
Brickyards
Farriers
Carpenters
Shovel makers
Wheel barrow makers/repairers...
lay man's terms please.
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This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
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It's a bit of a sticky wicket: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_law
There's only so much you can do when you are hiding in a cupboard.
what's the mystery? the notion that content providers are somehow getting a free ride is nonsense
content providers such as netflix pay for the bandwidth at the point their content enters a network they don't own, if they stream at 300 gigabit/sec they need to pay for connectivity supporting that - exactly the same as if you operate a website, the isp will charge for bandwidth, if there's a lot of traffic the bills can get large, fast
very large operators such as netflix may build and operate their own content delivery networks, more common is using a cdn operator - cloudflare, akami etc.
end users pay for the bandwidth to their home/mobile device
every cdn/isp/ixp peer can peer with any other isp/ixp on terms they are free to negotiate pricing based on traffic levels/differentials
net neutrality prevents an isp discriminating against traffic it doesn't like, by charging more, blocking it, or slowing it down
imagine if an isp had it's own voip service, it might block skype etc. to force users onto it's own service, or charge them a premium for using skype for instance, net neutrality prevents this sort of anti-competitive action
I think Orraloon is assuming that because Netflix is large successful private enterprise, they must be getting a free ride somehow, or at least doing something wrong.
What impact on the landscape? Just how wide is this train track? Theres even railways in the Swiss Alps and it doesn't detract from their scenery.
Bye bye High Wycombe. No heap big loss.
I thought that the downs were quite chalky and easy to put the whole thing underground.
Its good to know you r also an expert on the internet, cdn's pop's and netflix's oca's :roll:
though i m not entirely sure that they are anything to do with NWN, these are just how companies get content quickly and reliably to your home PC etc etc etc without tying up huge amounts of the internet with up-steam traffic, its a multi billion $ business and growing fast, the legacy companies are finding it hard to keep up.
i d also add that this area is highly complex and i would nt pretend to be an expert, no one individual is.
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My basic understanding is that that US gov. basically want market forces to 'go at it' developing the internet. Of course, this does come with some risk, but I'm not sure that it's a terrible idea. I tend to think, either make the internet properly public, or stop telling private parties how they need to run their business (i.e. let ISPs allocate internet performance however they want to).
The caveat is that there MUST be choice for the burgeoning Netflix competitor.
100% agree with all of this and i'm ooop north.
An alternative to spending ridiculous amounts Just add 15 minutes to the length of the day and start the next day 15 mins early that would make the HS2 15 min quicker argument redundant
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Just an idea and I do not have a clue how to achieve this.