When do you stop upgrading your bike?

pbassred
pbassred Posts: 208
edited December 2017 in Road general
With my heart just not into the idea of a single purpose full-on road bike, I bought a used CX bike 18 months ago. First to go were the toe clips. (3 days) for MTB/flat shimanos. A couple of weeks later the knobblies were swapped for marathon plus commuter tires. Them a brake upgrade. Shorter cranks (don't knock it it works), power meter, road wheels and 28mm slicks. A succession of saddles....... pedals again...... I can't think of anything else i could justify changing at my level of ability.

I also can't think of a reason to buy another bike, but there must come a point where a bike can't be upgraded any more. What point is that?
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  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    never - you can always upgrade and when those upgrades wear out just upgrade with new bits.

    from the sounds of things you have not touched the tip of the upgrsde iceberg....
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,082
    When there are no options left that are actual upgrades. eg, I want alloy finishing on My Master. Options are limited and I think I am there. In your case, wheels are the obvious next step. :wink:
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • Welcome to the sarlacc’s pit that is bike ownership.

    You only stop buying bits for a bike when it dies or you sell it to find another bike which you will continue to upgrade.
  • I stopped upgrading quite some time ago.

    Quite early I changed the cassette, to give me some easier gears. Then I got some clip-in pedals.

    Then I changed the saddle as part of a bike fit, which made the bike miles more comfortable.

    That's about it, I pretty much only buy consumables now. Clothes were another matter, it took a lot longer to get the right gear for different times of the year.

    But I'm a bit weird, I only have one bike, too!
    Is the gorilla tired yet?
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    I stopped upgrading quite some time ago.

    Quite early I changed the cassette, to give me some easier gears. Then I got some clip-in pedals.

    Then I changed the saddle as part of a bike fit, which made the bike miles more comfortable.

    That's about it, I pretty much only buy consumables now. Clothes were another matter, it took a lot longer to get the right gear for different times of the year.

    But I'm a bit weird, I only have one bike, too!


    That's not upgrading - that's selecting different bits to make the bike tolerable.

    So very very different.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • I stopped upgrading quite some time ago.

    Quite early I changed the cassette, to give me some easier gears. Then I got some clip-in pedals.

    Then I changed the saddle as part of a bike fit, which made the bike miles more comfortable.

    That's about it, I pretty much only buy consumables now. Clothes were another matter, it took a lot longer to get the right gear for different times of the year.

    But I'm a bit weird, I only have one bike, too!


    That's not upgrading - that's selecting different bits to make the bike tolerable.

    So very very different.

    I forgot, I also bought some Swissstop Greens when the stock pads wore out. They were way better!!

    Gotta allow that, surely :D
    Is the gorilla tired yet?
  • I stopped upgrading quite some time ago.

    Quite early I changed the cassette, to give me some easier gears. Then I got some clip-in pedals.

    Then I changed the saddle as part of a bike fit, which made the bike miles more comfortable.

    That's about it, I pretty much only buy consumables now. Clothes were another matter, it took a lot longer to get the right gear for different times of the year.

    But I'm a bit weird, I only have one bike, too!


    That's not upgrading - that's selecting different bits to make the bike tolerable.

    So very very different.

    I forgot, I also bought some Swissstop Greens when the stock pads wore out. They were way better!!

    Gotta allow that, surely :D

    No, no, no

    Where are the deep rim carbon wheels? Carbon seatpost, stem, aero handlebars? Colour co-ordinated bottle cages? Name stickers with a little flag for your frame? Different pedals, then different chainset cos you want a different ratio or carbon or a power meter or electronic gears or or another set of wheels to use in winter so you don’t damage your nice deep section carbon rims then another chainset different crank arm length cos you wanna try shorter ones cos you read it somewhere in Cycling Weekly.


    That’s upgrading
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    I stopped upgrading quite some time ago.

    Quite early I changed the cassette, to give me some easier gears. Then I got some clip-in pedals.

    Then I changed the saddle as part of a bike fit, which made the bike miles more comfortable.

    That's about it, I pretty much only buy consumables now. Clothes were another matter, it took a lot longer to get the right gear for different times of the year.

    But I'm a bit weird, I only have one bike, too!


    That's not upgrading - that's selecting different bits to make the bike tolerable.

    So very very different.

    I forgot, I also bought some Swissstop Greens when the stock pads wore out. They were way better!!

    Gotta allow that, surely :D

    No, no, no

    Where are the deep rim carbon wheels? Carbon seatpost, stem, aero handlebars? Colour co-ordinated bottle cages? Name stickers with a little flag for your frame? Different pedals, then different chainset cos you want a different ratio or carbon or a power meter or electronic gears or or another set of wheels to use in winter so you don’t damage your nice deep section carbon rims then another chainset different crank arm length cos you wanna try shorter ones cos you read it somewhere in Cycling Weekly.


    That’s upgrading

    Not to mention the Ti skewers, the lighter tires, the Ti bolts for the chain rings and bottle cages, the lightweight chain, the more expensive close ratio cassette.......

    TP above has laid the foundations of your future spending.

    New brake pads are just, well, new brake pads.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    New forks to save 200grammes. Proper upgrading.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • What's this about upgrading? Just buy another bike!
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    One must upgrade one bike whilst buying another. It's the law.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Then upgrade the second bike as well.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • keezx
    keezx Posts: 1,322
    Stopped years ago with upgrading my bikes
    So it's titanium and aluminium with BSA and external cables, 9 speed Campagnolo, few carbon bits here and there and that's what it will stay until I 'm too old or sick for cycling.
    The only significant thing the last 4 years I did was throw away , give away or sell my narrow rims and replace the for wider ones.
    So no carbon frames, deep carbon rims, 10/11 speed or whatever else I am supposed to need, they can keep it all.

    Cheers Mr. Grumpy.
  • I stopped upgrading quite some time ago.

    Quite early I changed the cassette, to give me some easier gears. Then I got some clip-in pedals.

    Then I changed the saddle as part of a bike fit, which made the bike miles more comfortable.

    That's about it, I pretty much only buy consumables now. Clothes were another matter, it took a lot longer to get the right gear for different times of the year.

    But I'm a bit weird, I only have one bike, too!


    That's not upgrading - that's selecting different bits to make the bike tolerable.

    So very very different.

    I forgot, I also bought some Swissstop Greens when the stock pads wore out. They were way better!!

    Gotta allow that, surely :D

    No, no, no

    Where are the deep rim carbon wheels? Carbon seatpost, stem, aero handlebars? Colour co-ordinated bottle cages? Name stickers with a little flag for your frame? Different pedals, then different chainset cos you want a different ratio or carbon or a power meter or electronic gears or or another set of wheels to use in winter so you don’t damage your nice deep section carbon rims then another chainset different crank arm length cos you wanna try shorter ones cos you read it somewhere in Cycling Weekly.


    That’s upgrading
    Wait, I did get some Elite bottle cages - the black and white ones, they match the bike.

    Two of them! And the Swissstops, they stop the bike much faster than the old ones, so that must be a proper upgrade.

    Well, one of them does - the back one only stops the wheel. What's that all about, is there something wrong with it?
    Is the gorilla tired yet?
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,082
    Two of them! And the Swissstops, they stop the bike much faster than the old ones, so that must be a proper upgrade.

    Well, one of them does - the back one only stops the wheel. What's that all about, is there something wrong with it?
    You need to upgrade your tyres. :wink:
    Or upgrade your seat post with a longer layback and sit down. :lol:
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • PBlakeney wrote:
    Two of them! And the Swissstops, they stop the bike much faster than the old ones, so that must be a proper upgrade.

    Well, one of them does - the back one only stops the wheel. What's that all about, is there something wrong with it?
    You need to upgrade your tyres. :wink:
    Or upgrade your seat post with a longer layback and sit down. :lol:

    Then ditch the tyres and wheels and get tubeless and once you got the seat post you have to buy a 200 quid pro logo saddle to match it.
  • When the only original bit left is the frame.;)
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  • dannbodge
    dannbodge Posts: 1,152
    Easy answer
    When you can't afford any more parts!
  • PBlakeney wrote:
    Two of them! And the Swissstops, they stop the bike much faster than the old ones, so that must be a proper upgrade.

    Well, one of them does - the back one only stops the wheel. What's that all about, is there something wrong with it?
    You need to upgrade your tyres. :wink:
    I did that, several times.

    Every time, I slam on the back brake, there's all this scraping noise from behind, and then a bang.

    How can so many tyres be defective?
    Is the gorilla tired yet?
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    When the only original bit left is the frame.;)


    What happens when the only original bit is the front fork?
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Wait, I did get some Elite bottle cages - the black and white ones, they match the bike.

    That reminds me, I bought a pair of bottle cages 2 months ago. Wonder where I put them??

    Last time I ventured out I was cursing the fact that the winter bike is currently lacking one on the downtube...

    I hate the internet. I have a kind of retail Tourette's. I only have to see something on Amazon / Wiggle / Screwfix and I've bought it.

    Admittedly I do it in proper shops too, but I only rarely find myself in them so it's self-contained. The internet's there 24/7 so I can be shopping at 3 am, slightly inebriated and sitting in my pants. Couple of weeks ago the laptop was playing up, and while googling for solutions on the iPad I gave in and just bought a new one...
  • Dannbodge wrote:
    Easy answer
    When you can't afford any more parts!

    I wouldn't let that stop you
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Dinyull wrote:
    When the only original bit left is the frame.;)


    What happens when the only original bit is the front fork?

    Then upgrade that. Bleedin' obvious innit.....
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Dinyull wrote:
    When the only original bit left is the frame.;)


    What happens when the only original bit is the front fork?

    What other kind of fork is there?

    We're heading into Trigger's broom territory here. Deep, philosophical stuff. I'm sure you can replace every single component, and the frame and fork in time, and still conceive it to be the same bike.

    I've never really been into upgrades just for the sake of it. First bike I had built so chose every component apart from the saddle; for years I rode it unchanged, apart from a couple of saddle swaps till I found one that suited me.
    10 years on it's my winter bike and still running most of the original kit.

    The second, summer bike was one of those Pavlovian click type purchases; £500 for a CR1-SL frameset, then built it up with cheap and / or second hand bits and pieces. I haven't really done it justice; it's crying out for better, lighter kit, but the only functional upgrades have been some s/h 5800 calipers, a s/h Spesh Power saddle and decent tyres.

    Beyond that, I just replace stuff that breaks or wears out
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,082
    PBlakeney wrote:
    Two of them! And the Swissstops, they stop the bike much faster than the old ones, so that must be a proper upgrade.

    Well, one of them does - the back one only stops the wheel. What's that all about, is there something wrong with it?
    You need to upgrade your tyres. :wink:
    I did that, several times.

    Every time, I slam on the back brake, there's all this scraping noise from behind, and then a bang.

    How can so many tyres be defective?
    Time for a technique upgrade then! :wink:
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • step83
    step83 Posts: 4,170
    Dannbodge wrote:
    Easy answer
    When you can't afford any more parts!

    I wouldn't let that stop you

    Sell things you dont need, kids, family member, a kidney...

    I'm debating new stem spacers on the bike I've not even built yet, its an upgrade they are shiny alloy not painted that means their lighter which is weight saving :lol:
  • PBlakeney wrote:
    PBlakeney wrote:
    Two of them! And the Swissstops, they stop the bike much faster than the old ones, so that must be a proper upgrade.

    Well, one of them does - the back one only stops the wheel. What's that all about, is there something wrong with it?
    You need to upgrade your tyres. :wink:
    I did that, several times.

    Every time, I slam on the back brake, there's all this scraping noise from behind, and then a bang.

    How can so many tyres be defective?
    Time for a technique upgrade then! :wink:
    Cheeky!

    Like I don't know how to pull on a brake lever!
    Is the gorilla tired yet?
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    I find secret upgrading the best - stash cash in your black ops fund (ie a tin in the garage) and then give cash to a mate to buy the bits for you and either have them sent to his house and fit them in secret or have them sent to work and fit them in secret while you should be working.

    Adds 1mph top end if you do it this way.

    I once got a mate to buy an entire Red groupset for me and paid him off at £10 a week. He got bored by the time I had paid half of it off and let me off the rest, so a win-win situation all round.

    If you get the cash out secretly from the joint account (a tenner here or there on cash back from Edwyn’s emporiorium when doing a food or wine shop doesn’t show as a withdrawal from the account) and soon adds up to a new shiny bit here or there. Other shops are available that provide cash back but none as good as Edwyns.......
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,082
    PBlakeney wrote:
    Time for a technique upgrade then! :wink:
    Cheeky!

    Like I don't know how to pull on a brake lever!
    Oh, I don't doubt for a second that you do. Too well in fact. :lol:
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • kingrollo
    kingrollo Posts: 3,198
    I often think its best to buy the bike as close to what you want at the time of purchase. Rather than upgrade stick the cash towards the next dream bike.