New Paint Scheme - Italian Theme - Advice please?

alistaird
alistaird Posts: 290
edited December 2017 in Road buying advice
All,

Not sure where to post this, so hopefully this is ok here.

I'm recovering from a hip replacement so am planning the re-build of my Colnago E1. Not a well known frame but is monocoque front triangle and lugged rear - and interesting frame that was only produced for a couple of years. I bought one 2nd hand a year or so ago and built it up to see how it rode and whether it was special. Well it is and now I'm planning a re-build as it really deserves a re-spray etc. I've got an all carbon Colnago fork to replace the part alloy one (which I think was a replacement anyway.) Looks wise - not dissimilar to a C40 or Extreme so a largish BB but not overly and relatively conventional tube sizing.

Here is a bad photo of the current frame:

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These are the wheels (and I may well need to strip the decals etc off them):

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I've got an integrated bar and stem from FSA (in white) and a carbon monolink seat post.

So here is my question - for all you artistic types...

I would very much like to get this re-sprayed (including seat-post and handlebars/stem) with an Italian theme and have found someone localish to do the re-spray but I need some great ideas on what sort of paint scheme to go with. My initial thinking was Italian flag blending from red to white to green but I'm sure the artistic guys out there could come up with something a bit more subtle. I was thinking a mix of clear coat and some red/green/white elements?

I would just love some ideas/mock ups etc for me to think about whilst I'm recovering...

Thanks

A
Alistair


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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    If it was me, I'd choose from either a red, white or green base (whichever is a personal preference) and use the other two colours for effect. The nicest paint job I've ever seen was a very pearlescent white with red & green flicks on a C60.
    Then I'd apply Colnago decals.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • I had a new Italian themed paint job on my De Rosa, also had seatpost and stem done. Images are now on the Kustomflow website (chap who did the paint job) - top service and pristine finish, very pleased with mine.
  • Why not go classy and have a full Saronni red scheme done? White logo.

    Would look nice I think
  • PBlakeney wrote:
    If it was me, I'd choose from either a red, white or green base (whichever is a personal preference) and use the other two colours for effect. The nicest paint job I've ever seen was a very pearlescent white with red & green flicks on a C60.
    Then I'd apply Colnago decals.

    Sounds interesting, any pics?

    A
    Alistair


    Best Weather Bike - Time ZXRS
    Summer Road Bike - Pinarello FPX Dogma
    Winter Road Bike- Colnago E1
    Being Dismantled - Sintesi Blade
    Mountain Bike - Sold them all....
  • I had a new Italian themed paint job on my De Rosa, also had seatpost and stem done. Images are now on the Kustomflow website (chap who did the paint job) - top service and pristine finish, very pleased with mine.

    That does look good....

    Thanks

    A
    Alistair


    Best Weather Bike - Time ZXRS
    Summer Road Bike - Pinarello FPX Dogma
    Winter Road Bike- Colnago E1
    Being Dismantled - Sintesi Blade
    Mountain Bike - Sold them all....
  • Why not go classy and have a full Saronni red scheme done? White logo.

    Would look nice I think

    Saw a modern De Rosa done this way recently and it did look stunning...

    Keep the ideas coming please....

    A
    Alistair


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    Winter Road Bike- Colnago E1
    Being Dismantled - Sintesi Blade
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  • Harry182
    Harry182 Posts: 1,170
    My (slightly tongue-in-cheek) interpretation of the consummate Italian-themed Colnago paint scheme -

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  • Favorite paint jobs of all time:

    Basso Astra

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    Colnago C59 150th anniversary

    Colnago+C59+-+Campy+SR.jpg

    Colnago C59 AD10

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    Colnago C60 MHBL

    Colnago-C60-Frameset-Classic-Dual-Use---MHBL-Classic-Blue1464959949.jpg.jpg

    Colnago EPS in PRZA or PR82

    Colnago+EPS+EZ+-+Shimano+-+LW.JPG

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  • I had an E1 for years. Fantastic ride and handling. Very rare to see one, sold mine to a collector who had 9 other 'Nago's. The E1 ended up being his daily ride of choice.

    It was a clear coat over carbon only with just a couple of small Italian flag and colour patches, with silver decals.

    5308517905_d52b6db0cb_b.jpg

    The PR99 scheme is nice and elegantly simple.
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  • If it’s as rare as you say it is, it may be best leaving it. A rare Colnago in top condition will be quite collectible in a few more years. Respraying it could effect its value.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    AlistairD wrote:
    PBlakeney wrote:
    If it was me, I'd choose from either a red, white or green base (whichever is a personal preference) and use the other two colours for effect. The nicest paint job I've ever seen was a very pearlescent white with red & green flicks on a C60.
    Then I'd apply Colnago decals.

    Sounds interesting, any pics?

    A
    Unfortunately no, as it was in Mallorca. Similar to the one below but with more obvious red & green touches like the C59 150th. It is also hard to overstate how much the pearlescent paint dazzled.
    I have a Saronni Master and while it is nice, I am not sure it would suit oversize tubing.
    I got replacement decals from a guy in Australia for a reasonable fee but have lost contact details.

    There is also that rare issue collectible point...

    Colnago-C60-Italia-Campagnolo-Record-EPS-Complete-Bike-02.jpg
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • Wow - some great ideas, thanks guys... Keep um coming.

    A
    Alistair


    Best Weather Bike - Time ZXRS
    Summer Road Bike - Pinarello FPX Dogma
    Winter Road Bike- Colnago E1
    Being Dismantled - Sintesi Blade
    Mountain Bike - Sold them all....
  • PBlakeney wrote:

    I got replacement decals from a guy in Australia for a reasonable fee but have lost contact details.
    That would likely be this bloke?

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  • poppit
    poppit Posts: 926
    The most beautiful Italian themed bikes I’ve ever seen are the pinarellos that the national squads use on the track, similar to the one in this article about Viviani, https://www.vittoria.com/vittoria-visits-elia-viviani-team-skyitalia/
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    PBlakeney wrote:

    I got replacement decals from a guy in Australia for a reasonable fee but have lost contact details.
    That would likely be this bloke?

    http://cyclomondo.net
    That's the guy! 8)
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • And now I'm spoilt for choice....

    A
    Alistair


    Best Weather Bike - Time ZXRS
    Summer Road Bike - Pinarello FPX Dogma
    Winter Road Bike- Colnago E1
    Being Dismantled - Sintesi Blade
    Mountain Bike - Sold them all....
  • I had an E1 for years. Fantastic ride and handling. Very rare to see one, sold mine to a collector who had 9 other 'Nago's. The E1 ended up being his daily ride of choice.

    It was a clear coat over carbon only with just a couple of small Italian flag and colour patches, with silver decals.

    5308517905_d52b6db0cb_b.jpg

    Interesting feedback on your E1 - thanks. I do like the ride - the only Nago I've ridden and good to know - it's a 'good one...' :lol::lol:

    I've definitely thought about keeping the clear coat over carbon with just a hint of Italian flag type colour patches and a new set of decals... New front fork is from a CLX and not sure what that will look like with clear coat as it's all red at the minute.

    A
    Alistair


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    Summer Road Bike - Pinarello FPX Dogma
    Winter Road Bike- Colnago E1
    Being Dismantled - Sintesi Blade
    Mountain Bike - Sold them all....
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Azzurro all over, Italian flags in discreet places, all black finishing kit and some phat Boras on it.

    Colnago in white.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • White bike and black finishing kit? No no no
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    White bike and black finishing kit? No no no

    Are you a hairdresser by any chance? :wink:
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  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    I love the Italian flag paint job on my Extreme Power, called ST02. The green is metallic. Mine is the naked carbon but looks pimp in white.
    Google has loads of pics but here’s a close up of mine.

    https://flic.kr/p/21aj9to
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  • NapoleonD wrote:
    I love the Italian flag paint job on my Extreme Power, called ST02. The green is metallic. Mine is the naked carbon but looks pimp in white.
    Google has loads of pics but here’s a close up of mine.

    https://flic.kr/p/21aj9to

    Neat, best one to date I think... This would look good on my frame especially with pearlescent colours:

    600x400-2017040700001.jpg

    A
    Alistair


    Best Weather Bike - Time ZXRS
    Summer Road Bike - Pinarello FPX Dogma
    Winter Road Bike- Colnago E1
    Being Dismantled - Sintesi Blade
    Mountain Bike - Sold them all....
  • If you are serious about colour and paint then it's always worth a browse through Baum Cycles Flickr pages... some exquisite work in there in every colour you can imagine..

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/baumcycles/page1

    I can see something like this layout working with red/white/green instead of the blue, and just clear coat over the carbon elsewhere, or even a metallic charcoal background.

    36188969255_01242c321e_b.jpg
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  • mr_mojo
    mr_mojo Posts: 200
    I had a C40 painted earlier this year by Cromaworks in Sheffield. Original paint in really poor condition and lacquer going milky in places so need doing. I used the Mapei world champion colour scheme as the idea. The red and green run down the top tube from the WC banding making the Italian flag colours with the white main frame colour. All logos and WC banding painted.

    Not the best pictures!

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  • If you are serious about colour and paint then it's always worth a browse through Baum Cycles Flickr pages... some exquisite work in there in every colour you can imagine..

    Nice selection - something like this might work in red, white and green:

    36361347024_4661c5166b_b.jpg


    A
    Alistair


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    Winter Road Bike- Colnago E1
    Being Dismantled - Sintesi Blade
    Mountain Bike - Sold them all....
  • Mr_Mojo wrote:
    I had a C40 painted earlier this year by Cromaworks in Sheffield. Original paint in really poor condition and lacquer going milky in places so need doing. I used the Mapei world champion colour scheme as the idea. The red and green run down the top tube from the WC banding making the Italian flag colours with the white main frame colour. All logos and WC banding painted.

    That's nice but I think I'm leaning towards keeping some of the clear coat - but I like the idea of the flag theme running down the tube...

    A
    Alistair


    Best Weather Bike - Time ZXRS
    Summer Road Bike - Pinarello FPX Dogma
    Winter Road Bike- Colnago E1
    Being Dismantled - Sintesi Blade
    Mountain Bike - Sold them all....
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    White bike and black finishing kit? No no no


    white bike?
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    AlistairD wrote:
    NapoleonD wrote:
    I love the Italian flag paint job on my Extreme Power, called ST02. The green is metallic. Mine is the naked carbon but looks pimp in white.
    Google has loads of pics but here’s a close up of mine.

    https://flic.kr/p/21aj9to

    Neat, best one to date I think... This would look good on my frame especially with pearlescent colours:

    600x400-2017040700001.jpg

    A

    Mine is the slightly more recent version (it’s actually ST01, 02 is with white instead of naked carbon). This isn’t mine, all my photos were on photobucket which now wants a fortune for me to carry on using it!

    9150721849_2eeaf608a1_c.jpg
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  • NapoleonD wrote:
    AlistairD wrote:
    NapoleonD wrote:
    I love the Italian flag paint job on my Extreme Power, called ST02. The green is metallic. Mine is the naked carbon but looks pimp in white.
    Google has loads of pics but here’s a close up of mine.

    Neat, best one to date I think... This would look good on my frame especially with pearlescent colours:


    A

    Mine is the slightly more recent version (it’s actually ST01, 02 is with white instead of naked carbon). This isn’t mine, all my photos were on photobucket which now wants a fortune for me to carry on using it!

    9150721849_2eeaf608a1_c.jpg

    And I think this is the same bike with 50mm Boras which would look similar to my 50mm Vueltas.

    9334972487_30ccd5b5b3_b.jpgColnago C-50 & Boras by Andres Flores, on Flickr

    9337759274_497d055970_b.jpgColnago C-50 & Boras by Andres Flores, on Flickr

    That's nearly perfect :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

    Thanks NapD.

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    Alistair


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  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Mine has these bottle cages too-

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