Generally, I use the summer bike (carbon) on the rollers and the winter bike (aluminium) on the turbo (wheel off/direct drive). The summer bike has a power meter fitted to it and the turbos have inbuilt power meters, so it makes sense to use the winter trainer on them.
I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.
I passed a major birthday a few years ago and was able relegate my winter bike to the turbo. I would have got buttons for it 2nd hand. Other than keeping the pressure in the tyres the maintenance is negligible.
i used to use a dedicated turbo bike that was just a bike from the dump shorn of all brakes and bits you didn't need as it was only on a turbo - downtube shifters, that sort of thing.
that broke so I smashed it with a hammer and threw it in next doors garden.
i now have the summer crit bike on there with an old wheel and old normal tyre as there is absoloutely no need for a "turbo specific tyre".
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Covered a lot....... I wouldn't put 1500 miles over winter on some GP4000 SII's, but on occassion, why not? Any bike that fits.
Lots and lots of videos of pros warming up. And their warmup is probably at watts that is 2-3x the stress average people doing this will exert on the bike strapped to a trainer.
I don't have room for a "turbo" bike and a road bike and and and and........
Just buy a $50 used rear wheel with a spare cassette and put a cheap tire on it to throw on for the trainer if concerned about it.
If I get around to buying a turbo, I'd be inclined to buy something like a Voodoo Marasa to use on it. If I had experience in building bikes, I'd hunt somewhere like PX for a frameset bargain.
The Cube would need a turbo-friendly axle, which can be had at Amazon for ~£30, but IIRC Cube won't deal with frame warranties when they are used on a turbo.
But the bargain-priced Marasa uses cheap-as-chips 8-speed drivetrain, which is fine for a turbo, plus it could double up as a bike for the better half (or for others, it could be a different n+1 bike).
i used to use a dedicated turbo bike that was just a bike from the dump shorn of all brakes and bits you didn't need as it was only on a turbo - downtube shifters, that sort of thing.
that broke so I smashed it with a hammer and threw it in next doors garden.
i now have the summer crit bike on there with an old wheel and old normal tyre as there is absoloutely no need for a "turbo specific tyre".
I currently have my second hand Felt F70 on my direct drive trainer, and it is permanently setup as so.
Old school as it goes, with carbon rear stays and forks - appreciate the latter is not retro.
Could not imagine taking a bike off a trainer, putting the wheel on, and having to reverse the process every single time I wanted to turbo, which I currently do 5 times a week, sometimes at vaguely unsociable hours.
I can see how it would not be such an issue with a rear wheel on turbo, but even then I switched to using a dedicated turbo tyre on an old rear wheel.
Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
Scott CR1 SL 12
Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
Scott Foil 18
i used to use a dedicated turbo bike that was just a bike from the dump shorn of all brakes and bits you didn't need as it was only on a turbo - downtube shifters, that sort of thing.
that broke so I smashed it with a hammer and threw it in next doors garden.
i now have the summer crit bike on there with an old wheel and old normal tyre as there is absoloutely no need for a "turbo specific tyre".
Wasn't it dangerous if you were on a descent?
maybe for a lesser mortal but for me no because as we all know brakes are for cowards and are just unnecessary unsightly clutter.
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
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From now on I'll only be using the winter bike on it (it's aluminium instead of carbon)
so basically what ever I am not using
Depends who you ask?
Some manufacturers specifically say don't do it, others are silent.
I think loads of people use them, including the pros.
including the pros - does this matter?
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
that broke so I smashed it with a hammer and threw it in next doors garden.
i now have the summer crit bike on there with an old wheel and old normal tyre as there is absoloutely no need for a "turbo specific tyre".
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Think the poster just emphasising that it is now just ordinary Joe with one bike has to train this way
Lots and lots of videos of pros warming up. And their warmup is probably at watts that is 2-3x the stress average people doing this will exert on the bike strapped to a trainer.
I don't have room for a "turbo" bike and a road bike and and and and........
Just buy a $50 used rear wheel with a spare cassette and put a cheap tire on it to throw on for the trainer if concerned about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN2nZAlSg2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIfKmwLhdxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt2e32M-RPw
That and the fact that a Pro will put any bike through its paces on a turbo.
The Cube would need a turbo-friendly axle, which can be had at Amazon for ~£30, but IIRC Cube won't deal with frame warranties when they are used on a turbo.
But the bargain-priced Marasa uses cheap-as-chips 8-speed drivetrain, which is fine for a turbo, plus it could double up as a bike for the better half (or for others, it could be a different n+1 bike).
2020 Voodoo Marasa
2017 Cube Attain GTC Pro Disc 2016
2016 Voodoo Wazoo
Through axle would be different so that's another reason not to bother with them ;-)
How do you mean put a bike through its paces on a turbo?
Like sit on it and turn the pedals?
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
Unless he's talking about a bike from Belgium or ryder hesjedals back wheel
The main problem is that people keep asking this same question on forums
Wasn't it dangerous if you were on a descent?
Old school as it goes, with carbon rear stays and forks - appreciate the latter is not retro.
Could not imagine taking a bike off a trainer, putting the wheel on, and having to reverse the process every single time I wanted to turbo, which I currently do 5 times a week, sometimes at vaguely unsociable hours.
I can see how it would not be such an issue with a rear wheel on turbo, but even then I switched to using a dedicated turbo tyre on an old rear wheel.
Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
Scott CR1 SL 12
Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
Scott Foil 18
maybe for a lesser mortal but for me no because as we all know brakes are for cowards and are just unnecessary unsightly clutter.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour