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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    Veronese68 wrote:
    Oh and baby wipes. Lots of baby wipes!
    This world is full enough of discarded, "disposable" cr@p that ends up in landfill. Even allegedly bio-degradable stuff can take ages to actually degrade.
    Just use a rag with your cleaning method of choice and when it gets too grubby, give it a wash and start over.
    Ones I use are made of paper. No less biodegradable than toilet paper or tissues.
    I agree with Spinner. Most baby wipes are not biodegradable and cause all sorts of problems, especially when flushed down the loo.
    WD40 may well be mineral oil based, but so is petrol. It's too light to be any good as a lube on bicycle parts. GT85 is a little better, but not much.

    Yep, most are not, but the ones I use are, think I made that clear. They fall apart pretty quickly like kitchen roll does. Most are cotton based, they are bad but paper ones are fine.
    More to the point, baby wipes* leave a great finish whilst damp but dry to leave a film on the surface that is not to my liking. I stopped using them.

    *The ones I used at least.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • dizzydane
    dizzydane Posts: 322
    shiznit76 wrote:
    Back on topic, would spraying GT85 over cleaned bike help keep it clean and also drive moisture out any areas that are still wet from the clean? Not using as a lube, just a barrier spray
    I generally use GT85 to displace water from moving parts/mechanisms and help to prevent rust on certain parts after cleaning a bike.
  • shiznit76
    shiznit76 Posts: 640
    Navrig2 wrote:
    Degreaser bought in bulk from Amazon. Water from the hose. Two brushes and an old sock. Morgan blue chain keeper.

    Take off the wheels and fit the Morgan blue.

    Spray down the frame with water.

    Spray the chain and cassette and derailleurs with degreaser (diluted and sprayed from a Wonder Wheels bottle which makes it foam).

    One brush is used to get into the nooks and crannies to rid of the crap stuck to the frame. Then rub it down with the sock (over my hand).

    The other brush is used to clean the cassette and chain. Usually they end up shiny clean.

    Spray down the wheels and the frame.

    Dry the chain and refit the wheels. Let the bike drip dry for a couple of hours then lube the chain and mechanics.

    Got a link for the degreaser?
  • navrig2
    navrig2 Posts: 1,851
    shiznit76 wrote:
    Navrig2 wrote:
    Degreaser bought in bulk from Amazon. Water from the hose. Two brushes and an old sock. Morgan blue chain keeper.

    Take off the wheels and fit the Morgan blue.

    Spray down the frame with water.

    Spray the chain and cassette and derailleurs with degreaser (diluted and sprayed from a Wonder Wheels bottle which makes it foam).

    One brush is used to get into the nooks and crannies to rid of the crap stuck to the frame. Then rub it down with the sock (over my hand).

    The other brush is used to clean the cassette and chain. Usually they end up shiny clean.

    Spray down the wheels and the frame.

    Dry the chain and refit the wheels. Let the bike drip dry for a couple of hours then lube the chain and mechanics.

    Got a link for the degreaser?

    Sure:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00 ... UTF8&psc=1

    It's pretty strong so you need waterproof gloves when working with it neat (and probably diluted). I dilute it at least half water (probably nearer 75% water) and use one of these for spraying:

    http://i1.adis.ws/i/washford/333930?w=637&h=403

    It has a foaming nozzle which means the target gets a more even coverage than a jet would give.

    When cleaning the cassette I use one of these:

    http://www.hently.com/pic/big/2015-10-28-20-35-14.jpg

    It is flexible and bends to suit the cassette. Using the freehub allows the cassette to be turned in one direction and cleaned in another. Shiny cassette in one spray and half a dozen brush wipes.
  • pilot_pete
    pilot_pete Posts: 2,120
    I use Screwfix degreaser on the drivetrain - 5ltrs for under a tenner, lasts ages.
    Car wash shampoo or non-branded washing up liquid with a microfibre mitt to wash the frame, old 3” paintbrush to work the suds into the hard to get at bits and to scrub tyres etc. Hose to rinse it all off.

    Then the coup de gras, a powerful pet drier to blow all the water out of everywhere - drivetrain, derailleurs, headset lower bearing, wheels, hubs etc. Gets the whole bike bone dry, including inside the chain pins/ rollers (it’s high velocity and hot air).

    Then lube chain with lube of choice, I use a wax based lube - Smoove which stays really clean in use.

    On the frame and forks I may use a bit of car spray detailer on a microfibre cloth which removes any water marks/ little bits of missed dirt or any ‘mucky dribbles’ that have been blown out of nooks and crannies by the pet drier.

    Finally, after everything else I wipe the disc rotor surfaces with a bit of kitchen roll which has been dipped in isopropyl alcohol. It’s amazing how much dirt that gets off the surfaces.
  • womack
    womack Posts: 566
    I'm actually surprised that no cycle retailer has copied the practice of the motor trade with the extremely over priced "Paint Protection System" "Which we can apply before you collect your new car"

    I worked in the motor trade and we bought these "miracle paint barrier kits" for circa £25.

    They were being knocked out at circa £400 and I feel sure that a lot of them never got applied to the vehicles.


    For a bike one £25 kit would probably do 20 / 30 bikes at £100 a pop, good easy money.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    womack said:

    I'm actually surprised that no cycle retailer has copied the practice of the motor trade with the extremely over priced "Paint Protection System" "Which we can apply before you collect your new car"

    I worked in the motor trade and we bought these "miracle paint barrier kits" for circa £25.

    They were being knocked out at circa £400 and I feel sure that a lot of them never got applied to the vehicles.


    For a bike one £25 kit would probably do 20 / 30 bikes at £100 a pop, good easy money.

    You posted the answer to your point.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • womack
    womack Posts: 566
    pblakeney said:

    womack said:

    I'm actually surprised that no cycle retailer has copied the practice of the motor trade with the extremely over priced "Paint Protection System" "Which we can apply before you collect your new car"

    I worked in the motor trade and we bought these "miracle paint barrier kits" for circa £25.

    They were being knocked out at circa £400 and I feel sure that a lot of them never got applied to the vehicles.


    For a bike one £25 kit would probably do 20 / 30 bikes at £100 a pop, good easy money.

    You posted the answer to your point.

    Yes, but amazing how many we sold so a lot of gullible people out there.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    womack said:

    pblakeney said:

    womack said:

    I'm actually surprised that no cycle retailer has copied the practice of the motor trade with the extremely over priced "Paint Protection System" "Which we can apply before you collect your new car"

    I worked in the motor trade and we bought these "miracle paint barrier kits" for circa £25.

    They were being knocked out at circa £400 and I feel sure that a lot of them never got applied to the vehicles.


    For a bike one £25 kit would probably do 20 / 30 bikes at £100 a pop, good easy money.

    You posted the answer to your point.

    Yes, but amazing how many we sold so a lot of gullible people out there.
    Undoubtably. I give you this -
    https://absoluteblack.cc/hollowcage-carbon-ceramic-oversized-derailleur-pulley-cage
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • womack said:

    pblakeney said:

    womack said:

    I'm actually surprised that no cycle retailer has copied the practice of the motor trade with the extremely over priced "Paint Protection System" "Which we can apply before you collect your new car"

    I worked in the motor trade and we bought these "miracle paint barrier kits" for circa £25.

    They were being knocked out at circa £400 and I feel sure that a lot of them never got applied to the vehicles.


    For a bike one £25 kit would probably do 20 / 30 bikes at £100 a pop, good easy money.

    You posted the answer to your point.

    Yes, but amazing how many we sold so a lot of gullible people out there.
    Another old thread raising its head:
    You say ‘gullible’ but surly that only applies in you’re (seller) a cowboy. I’d use ‘trusting’ people. There is an awful lot of BS out there regarding products for sale, we all listen to the advice of the people in the know as it were. Whether that be a car salesman (who have a poor reputation now), cycle salesman, plumber, electrician, nurse or doctor, and go from there.

    Back to the topic, there are some good and well researched cleaning products out there. Unfortunately there are also some products that are just a drop of squeeze and/or degreaser and water that claim to be something they’re not, or try and baffle us with ingredients like aqua for example instead of water, hike the price to make it more believable. We’re not gullible we’re trusting, perhaps too trusting, without any statutory standards/tests to guide us. Cleaning products rarely stand the test of time, for one reason or another.
    Use what works for you and your pocket.
  • Lemon Pledge. Smells great.