Fulgaz

supermurph09

What is the best setup for Fulgaz.

My kit list
Tacx Flow Smart
Stages PM
ipad 2 & iphone 6+

I also have a laptop and the potential to use a TV. Does everything run from the phone/ipad or do you need a laptop with ANT+ for the trainer to be controlled like I currently do for Sufferfest?

Edit: I see that it connects via bluetooth and is IOS only. Fine by me.

MiddleRinger

Supermurph09 wrote:

What is the best setup for Fulgaz.

Best setup? Tacx NEO + iPad mirrored to a 65" HD TV would be pretty good I recon.... ;-)

And yes marking any downloaded videos as favourites is the easiest way to keep track of them.

bendertherobot

Yep. That's what I'm trying to do, but on a budget.

So, I have the iPad.

Popping to CEX later with £50 off stuff to get a B grade ATV4 for £35 (on top).

Bidding on a scratched, used, auction TV, willing to go up to £50. Then need a £10 wall mount.

Fashion a shelf under the TV for the ATV and iPad to sit. Use the ATV to run Zwift and mirror Fulgaz.

Some £10 foam floor tiles to go under the Neo. So, total cost, of added stuff, a mere £100 or.

Other than the £900 Neo, naturally.....

bianchimoon

Hmm, makes my tacx flux with iPad linked to 27" iMac 18" from my nose sound a bit poor, but still very immersive

the_rover

Well, a disappointing day with fulgaz. Managed to get the ant + paired to the app and set off on a 27 miler. It froze constantly and after an hour the screen said I’d completed 9 miles so I finished it. The data screen said I’d done 30miles!

So sent an email to fulgaz and got a very honest reply saying move on. They can’t guarantee that the app will work with a bkool trainer at this time.

I still subscribe to bkool but the videos are poor compared to FG so I going to have a go at Zwift next and decide on the next option. I MAY look at changing the trainer to something that’ll work with FG.

Nearly forgot, I also picked up a mint 32in Panasonic to use in the garage!

bendertherobot

That's bad and good news! Well done on the latter!

The Bwlch loop is up. All three ascents, and, quite rightly, the rider chose typically Welsh weather to do it.

dabber

The Rover wrote:

Well, a disappointing day with fulgaz. Managed to get the ant + paired to the app and set off on a 27 miler. It froze constantly and after an hour the screen said I’d completed 9 miles so I finished it. The data screen said I’d done 30miles!

So sent an email to fulgaz and got a very honest reply saying move on. They can’t guarantee that the app will work with a bkool trainer at this time.

I still subscribe to bkool but the videos are poor compared to FG so I going to have a go at Zwift next and decide on the next option. I MAY look at changing the trainer to something that’ll work with FG.

Nearly forgot, I also picked up a mint 32in Panasonic to use in the garage!

I don't know if you've looked at BigRingVR as an alternative and whether the system requirements fit your setup...
see here...https://bigringvr.com/getting-started.aspx

I have a Bkool Pro and it works perfectly with that in a Windows 10 environment and I've never had a single glitch with it.
My setup is ... Windows 10 laptop with HDMI connection to large screen, Bkool Pro, Garmin HRM, Garmin Cadence Sensor - the one without the magnets.
All connects and speaks to BRVR instantly and has never frozen or bombed out.

Edited to add.. I use the Bkool Ant+ dongle and a USB extension cable.

bendertherobot

From Mike's post in the Facebook group:

"We're having some issues with BKOOL with ANT+ at the moment, but we should have it fixed shortly (It doesn't always control resistance). Bluetooth is a complete non-starter because they won't cooperate and share any code. It would help if you and any other BKOOL users can complain to them asking for Bluetooth with FulGaz. If they're going to use the new FTMS standard we will have that in a few weeks and the problem would be solved for good.

the_rover

Dabber wrote:

The Rover wrote:

Well, a disappointing day with fulgaz. Managed to get the ant + paired to the app and set off on a 27 miler. It froze constantly and after an hour the screen said I’d completed 9 miles so I finished it. The data screen said I’d done 30miles!

So sent an email to fulgaz and got a very honest reply saying move on. They can’t guarantee that the app will work with a bkool trainer at this time.

I still subscribe to bkool but the videos are poor compared to FG so I going to have a go at Zwift next and decide on the next option. I MAY look at changing the trainer to something that’ll work with FG.

Nearly forgot, I also picked up a mint 32in Panasonic to use in the garage!

I don't know if you've looked at BigRingVR as an alternative and whether the system requirements fit your setup...
see here...https://bigringvr.com/getting-started.aspx

I have a Bkool Pro and it works perfectly with that in a Windows 10 environment and I've never had a single glitch with it.
My setup is ... Windows 10 laptop with HDMI connection to large screen, Bkool Pro, Garmin HRM, Garmin Cadence Sensor - the one without the magnets.
All connects and speaks to BRVR instantly and has never frozen or bombed out.

Edited to add.. I use the Bkool Ant+ dongle and a USB extension cable.

Cheers, I’d looked at bigring but we only use tablets so ruled it out.
I’m having a bit of mare with it, tried to connect with Zwift today, guess the outcome......
The Zwift app recognises the wahoo ant + but can’t find the Bkool Pro. As far as I can see I’ve got everything enabled like FEC ( I’ve followed the advice on Zwift ) but still nothing. I’ve joined the Zwift riders FB group and asked in there as well as an email to both Bkool and Zwift.

I just fancy trying a different platform as I’ve been on Bkool for a couple of years and whilst I get a good work out I’m getting a bit bored with it.

the_rover

bendertherobot wrote:

From Mike's post in the Facebook group:

"We're having some issues with BKOOL with ANT+ at the moment, but we should have it fixed shortly (It doesn't always control resistance). Bluetooth is a complete non-starter because they won't cooperate and share any code. It would help if you and any other BKOOL users can complain to them asking for Bluetooth with FulGaz. If they're going to use the new FTMS standard we will have that in a few weeks and the problem would be solved for good.

I got this in my FB post which implies be patience?

I emailed him after that raising some technical issues and was told not to spend anymore time on it as it’s a non starter at the moment.

the_rover

Zwift have replied. They don’t support the wahoo key anymore. Back to the drawing board!

bendertherobot

Can you return the bKool at all? I hate all this different standard, different system stuff.

I have to say, the Neo has been flawless, I can't imagine that the Flux would be worse in relation to the connection side of things.

bendertherobot

Hmm, wonder what this is?

Something special is on it's way....
I can't tell you what it is yet, but a combination of new features will combine to make things feel even more realistic. (One idea that didn't get approved was a water bottle that sprays you whenever the road gets wet)

bianchimoon

bendertherobot wrote:

Hmm, wonder what this is?

Something special is on it's way....
I can't tell you what it is yet, but a combination of new features will combine to make things feel even more realistic. (One idea that didn't get approved was a water bottle that sprays you whenever the road gets wet)

? what does this relate to?

the_rover

bendertherobot wrote:

Can you return the bKool at all? I hate all this different standard, different system stuff.

I have to say, the Neo has been flawless, I can't imagine that the Flux would be worse in relation to the connection side of things.

No, had the Bkool nearly two years.

Have to laugh though. I downloaded Sufferfest today and got everything paired quite easily and tried to download a video.
Got “ this video file is not on the server “ pop up! FFS!

It’s conspiracy I’m sure! Sent them an email and got a quick reply saying a server is playing up.

Borrowing a laptop tonight so I’ll have another go at Zwift and someone in my local FB cycling group has offered to lend me a Tacx flow to see how that works out.

I’m suffering at the moment due to a nervous system condition and the docs want me to continue with the indoor cycling to see what response it gets but at this rate........

bendertherobot

bianchimoon wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

Hmm, wonder what this is?

Something special is on it's way....
I can't tell you what it is yet, but a combination of new features will combine to make things feel even more realistic. (One idea that didn't get approved was a water bottle that sprays you whenever the road gets wet)

? what does this relate to?

Announcement on the Fulgaz page. They seem to have trademarked (i'll check) Real Ride Engine.

supermurph09

Looking to get a lightning HDMI cable to use with Fulgaz, does it need to be Apple or will a generic one work?

(getting deja vu here so may have asked this already!)

bianchimoon

Supermurph09 wrote:

Looking to get a lightning HDMI cable to use with Fulgaz, does it need to be Apple or will a generic one work?

(getting deja vu here so may have asked this already!)

I use generic cheap ones to link 3 apple displays together via thunderbolt to DVI, they have HDMI output port as well. No reason they shouldn't work perfectly

bendertherobot

Got outbid on the 40" auction ones. So chucked some money at my neighbour for his 32" one he's not using. Should be more than enough at 2 feet away.

£7 bracket coming from Amazon.

For now I'll be using the cheapy HDMI I got from Amazon, https://www.amazon.co.uk/HOISAN-Lightni ... hdmi&psc=1

Until I get another homeplug with wifi to power the Apple TV.

bianchimoon

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/8-Pin-Lightnin ... 2287341865
I used these, as have DVI as well for older monitors as well as HDMI and even VGA!

bendertherobot

Lucked out on auction. Neighbour had a TV, he only wanted £20. Then he asked if I had a spare freezer, I did, was about to give it away, so straight swap for TV. Only 32" but more than good enough.

bianchimoon

bendertherobot wrote:

Lucked out on auction. Neighbour had a TV, he only wanted £20. Then he asked if I had a spare freezer, I did, was about to give it away, so straight swap for TV. Only 32" but more than good enough.

I think that TV will come closer to bike!!!, looking good

bianchimoon

Tried to upload a ride to Mike@fulgaz last night, but link he sends is web based to dropbox, High Sierra is causing safari freezes at this end so getting 4 or 5 hours in and all wasted!, needs a shared folder for the DB app rather than the weblink he sends just in case anyone else is thinking of uploading files

bendertherobot

bianchimoon wrote:

Tried to upload a ride to Mike@fulgaz last night, but link he sends is web based to dropbox, High Sierra is causing safari freezes at this end so getting 4 or 5 hours in and all wasted!, needs a shared folder for the DB app rather than the weblink he sends just in case anyone else is thinking of uploading files

I've had issues with High Sierra and uploading files generally recently. On the Mac and iPad.

bendertherobot

Right, last purchase needed today. A Develo dlan 500 wifi homeplug. That will feed the ATV in the garage and provide better wireless for the iPad. So, ATV will either run Zwift natively or be mirroring the iPad. Even better, IF ATV running Zwift, iPad can have Netflix on.

47p2

I've never had much success with wifi extenders in my garage or in the house either. They seem to be a bit of a hit or a miss, sometimes they work and most times they don't.
When I re-wired my garage 15 years ago I ran a telephone cable from the house into the garage with the intention of someday connecting a phone, but it never came to fruition and the cable lay dormant all this time. Then last year I read about using a router/hub as a repeater and remembered about the cable I had so started to investigate how I could utilise the cable and connect it to a hacked router to give me broadband in the garage. It turns out that only 2 wires are required on each RJ45 plug and the old dormant telephone cable was perfect for this as it has six cables . RJ45 plugs were connected to both ends of the telephone cable, one end plugged into the rear of my router/hub and the other connected to a hacked router/hub in the garage. I now have a stable 60 Mbps download and 18 Mbps upload enabling me to use my iPad for FulGaz whilst watching Netflix, TV, or whatever else I want at the same time.


EDIT:-
I never need to download Fulgaz or BigringVR rides prior to riding them, the speed of the broadband in the garage is more than enough to ride straight out the box

bendertherobot

I've been lucky. My Devolo 500 hit a constant 500MBps on my Inifinty 2 80 meg line. Putting on in the garage has that one running slower, but still at an excellent speed.

Though, weirdly, my BT router, in the house, some 20m from the garage still gives two bars of good wifi.

MiddleRinger

47p2 wrote:

I've never had much success with wifi extenders in my garage or in the house either. They seem to be a bit of a hit or a miss, sometimes they work and most times they don't.

I never need to download Fulgaz or BigringVR rides prior to riding them, the speed of the broadband in the garage is more than enough to ride straight out the box

I've got good WiFi signal to the garage, but the internet speeds to my ranch can be pretty patchy. I tend to download the videos to my phone beforehand and keep a bank of three or four downloaded at any one time.

Had a good FulGaz ride along Melbourne's famous Beach Road this afternoon when Zwift was down. Felt pretty realistic with excellent gradient changes. Average speed over the ride felt fairly spot on too.

simkin911

I’ve had good advice on this forum in respect of my new Tacx Neo. However, faced with confusion over the Tacx apps and inspired with this thread re Fulgaz- I signed up for the trial and had my first proper ride tonight.

I should add that I’m totally new to indoor training.

So, using a Neo, Tacx HRM and FulGaz.

As a marker ... I can usually hit about 17-18mph on local routes which aren’t that flat either.

Tonight I selected an easy route (Bangor to Donaghadee) - about 12 miles in an estimated 40 mins.
I cycled for 40 mins and the mileage was clocked 4.83 miles in those 40 mins !

I can easily RUN further in a faster time!

I guess I must be doing something wrong. As I understand it, the Neo requires no calibration. My internet connection is sketchy in the room I use... could this be a cause? The video itself froze repeatedly then speeded up.

I’m a total newbie here but this feels off the pace by some margin. Any feedback would be very welcome!

MiddleRinger

simkin911 wrote:

Any feedback would be very welcome!

Does your wattage displayed on-screen look about right? If so then check your user settings in the FulGaz app; weight, rolling resistance, etc to make sure that's all fine. Adjust as necessary. Then check your internet connection to ensure good coverage in your training area and no drop outs. That could be causing the video to freeze or slow right down, then speed up again.

I've found the FulGaz speeds to be slightly higher than I'd achieve outside (no slowing for lights, corners, etc) but overall pretty good.