Tyres

Moonbiker

Rubino pro arn't supposedly great for wet grip according to some on the forums etc


I fell off and got road rash on fairly low speed corner, & front wheel has skidded a few times using them.


I just use them on the rear only now as they last so well and a use different tyre on the front.

itboffin

Quick update on the clement, they're not as good as the pave but my oh my they roll over holes glass gravel and mud like no other road tyres I've used before and they still look like new.

Promising

daniel_b

prawny wrote:

I love Durano Plus but I only run 25s, they're so tough I don't even bother picking the glass out of them any more.

The rear one is coming up to 5000 miles now and the blue is showing through now so I'll pop a new one on this weekend or next so it's scrubbed in before the winter comes.

Another vote for Durano pluses - have them on two bikes in the house, been using them for the last 2 years approx, and only one visit during that time, and that was a properly solid thorn, over an inch in length - only a solid tyre would have survived unscathed. As it was, I just stopped twice to pump it up, which was enough to let me get home.

Good job I did not try and fix it out on the road, due to the shape of the thorn, I ended up having to get a safety pin and force it back out, no way I could have managed that out on the road with limited tools.

.Ian

I didn’t get on with Rubino Pros. My brother swears by them and does a much greater mileage than me. His take on it was it makes no difference, if you’re gonna puncture you’ll puncture irrespective of what tyre you are running.

Personally, I found the Rubinos really poor in the wet, quite scary in fact and not puncture resistant. I replaced my Rubinos with Durano Pros and would recommend them to anybody.

wolfsbane2k

I'm really torn between durano plus and gp4seasons - I've got a £100 voucher for halfrauds that I need to use before the end of the month, and thinking of using it restock tyres for the roadie.
Currently running a gp4000s2 rear and a Vittoria randoneuur front,
Neither come in reflective though, which really annoys me.
Might do one of each.

tgotb

Given a choice between those two, and having used a lot of both, I can't think of a single good reason to go for the 4 Seasons. The Durano Plus are considerably more robust, especially the sidewalls; the general consensus is that you keep riding them until the blue puncture protection strip is showing, with no noticeable deterioration in performance or puncture resistance. My experience with 4 Seasons was that, as they wore, you'd reach a point where they became quite prone to punctures. I also has a couple of catastrophic sidewall failures, even before they got to this point.
I think they're fairly similar when it comes to ride quality; not quite as good as a GP4000s2, which is my good-weather tyre of choice, but not a million miles behind.

j_mcd

Rode in on the 4 seasons this morning. They might not be as good as the Duranos but god, they are SO much better than what came on the bike!

The Rookie

I'm using 28mm Conti Ultrasport, one year and about 1200 miles and all is well, only just worn off the mould split line round the front tyre (rear went a bit sooner), grip is good in wet and dry, the folders are reasonably light and they give a nice ride feel.

Tread only is protected though, not the sidewalls but that benefits rolling resistance.

lostboysaint

Michelin Pro4 Endurance (or whatever the current name is).

Gatorskins are horrible, I moved to GP4S when I got fed up with the lack of grip and then was almost stranded by a sidewall puncture (common!) on the GP4s when in the middle of nowhere in Portugal. Changed to Pro4 Endurance when I got the chance and haven't looked back. Roll better, grip better (wet and dry), slightly larger volume so you can drop pressures slightly for more grip and comfort. All in all the best 28mm tyre I've ridden by some way!

tgotb

J_MCD wrote:

they are SO much better than what came on the bike!

This is incredibly annoying, and one of the reasons I build all my own bikes these days. I can understand why bike builders skimp on tyre/wheels/saddles etc to keep the price attractive, but it means that you end up having to buy two sets. If only they could all have a reasonably priced "pay extra to upgrade to decent wheels/tyres" option...

wolfsbane2k

TGOTB wrote:

Given a choice between those two, and having used a lot of both, I can't think of a single good reason to go for the 4 Seasons. The Durano Plus are considerably more robust, especially the sidewalls; the general consensus is that you keep riding them until the blue puncture protection strip is showing, with no noticeable deterioration in performance or puncture resistance. My experience with 4 Seasons was that, as they wore, you'd reach a point where they became quite prone to punctures. I also has a couple of catastrophic sidewall failures, even before they got to this point.
I think they're fairly similar when it comes to ride quality; not quite as good as a GP4000s2, which is my good-weather tyre of choice, but not a million miles behind.

Cheers. Decided that to get 2 Durano Plus's (in folding form).
Was wanting to try some of the micheln tyres, but Halfords have only got the old protyre vewsions.

prawny

I've not changed my back tyre in the end, had a good look at it and the blue is only showing through in one place, going to give it another week and see how it goes.

ugo.santalucia

prawny wrote:

I've not changed my back tyre in the end, had a good look at it and the blue is only showing through in one place, going to give it another week and see how it goes.

... might turn black again...

ugo.santalucia

TGOTB wrote:

If only they could all have a reasonably priced "pay extra to upgrade to decent wheels/tyres" option...

... a la Brompton... shame if you want your personalised Brompton you need to wait 6 months...

Ribble has a bike builder, Dolan has something similar... Planet X too

drhaggis

lostboysaint wrote:

Michelin Pro4 Endurance (or whatever the current name is).

That tyre was too good. According to bicyclerollingresistance, the newer Michelin variants are not as good:
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.co ... ce-v2-2015

The Power Endurance rolls just about as well, but has less puncture protection. The Power All Season may well be grippy, but has a lower TPI construction, which shows on the rolling resistance. Personally, I'm very happy with my Pro4 Endurance v2's, and are an incredible upgrade over what came on my entry-level Defy 2. Maybe I should buy a couple before they run out.

itboffin

The endurance v2 are really good but not totally bullet proof and shite across wet grass as my broken ribs would agree, this is why im back on pave's and now trying out clement strada.

I need something lightweight ie <250g a tyre wide strong and grippy NOT marathon bloody plus

murvis1er

I just use gp4000s for the commute these days. Two slow punctures in a year and a half of commuting 30 miles a day through London (including through Notting Hill after the carnival, if you've ever tried that you'll understand). Found some fairly big chunks of glass in them as well.

Having written this I look forward to puncturing on the ride home this evening.

inbike

+1 for Durano Plus around London.

They aren't good enough for riding in the country though. I had to walk down a wet, gravelly, leaf covered 19% hill which I would have ridden on S-Ones.

N0bodyOfTheGoat

inbike wrote:

I had to walk down a wet, gravelly, leaf covered 19% hill which I would have ridden on S-Ones.

You're a braver man than me if you descended such a hill on S-Ones, I might contemplate it on my Wazoo with 2.35" G-One Speeds (basically same tyre but wider)... At ~5mph and at least one foot not clipped in! :shock:

bikegangster

Durano Double Defense at 28c for the rear wheel. Using it for a few months so far, working well for me. No need to get a Schwalbe Marathon which is heavier and slower than any Durano's.

MrSweary

The rear GP4S on my Paddy Wagon finally gave up the ghost last week (large patches of carcass on display!).

Dug out a Durano Plus and shoehorned it on. Rear end has stepped out 3 times since in fairly innocuous conditions. DO NOT LIKE!

Hoping it improves soon.

anonymousblackfg

While this subject is back, Wiggle are doing Rubino Pro's for £11

roger_merriman

MrSweary wrote:

The rear GP4S on my Paddy Wagon finally gave up the ghost last week (large patches of carcass on display!).

Dug out a Durano Plus and shoehorned it on. Rear end has stepped out 3 times since in fairly innocuous conditions. DO NOT LIKE!

Hoping it improves soon.

Some folks say the releasing agent can make the tyre slippery? I’ve not noted this. The Durano’s is targeted as a long lasting training/commuter tyres so the compounds would be more long lasting than grippy/sticky. In fairness though most road tyres seemed to have similar levels of grip, that I used any how. Bar Gatorskins that where twitchy with a mere hint of moisture in the air, and stepped out.

Since my new commute which is glass infested, I’ve had swap type of tyres now on Marathon plus Tours which aren’t ungrippy but give a harsher ride, and they will step out on wet metal work and the like if your too gun ho, where as the XC MTB tyres wouldn’t miss a beat, but sooner or later that amount of glass would shred them.

MrSweary

roger merriman wrote:

MrSweary wrote:

The rear GP4S on my Paddy Wagon finally gave up the ghost last week (large patches of carcass on display!).

Dug out a Durano Plus and shoehorned it on. Rear end has stepped out 3 times since in fairly innocuous conditions. DO NOT LIKE!

Hoping it improves soon.

Some folks say the releasing agent can make the tyre slippery? I’ve not noted this. The Durano’s is targeted as a long lasting training/commuter tyres so the compounds would be more long lasting than grippy/sticky. In fairness though most road tyres seemed to have similar levels of grip, that I used any how. Bar Gatorskins that where twitchy with a mere hint of moisture in the air, and stepped out.

Since my new commute which is glass infested, I’ve had swap type of tyres now on Marathon plus Tours which aren’t ungrippy but give a harsher ride, and they will step out on wet metal work and the like if your too gun ho, where as the XC MTB tyres wouldn’t miss a beat, but sooner or later that amount of glass would shred them.

Yeah. Just looking at it and feeling the surface it doesn't seem as grippy as a GP4S. Presumably longer lasting though. I'll give them a little longer and see how they go.

prawny

ugo.santalucia wrote:

prawny wrote:

I've not changed my back tyre in the end, had a good look at it and the blue is only showing through in one place, going to give it another week and see how it goes.

... might turn black again...

Still haven't changed it!

Lucky really, the frame cracked and they don't make mine anymore. If I get a replacement that will take wider tyres I can send the one I bought back to CRC and buy something else 8)

ryan_w-2

Just changed the tyres on the S5 to Pirelli PZero Velo 4S for winter weekend rides.

Did 80km on them yesterday in the ice and wet. Very confident in cornering and no twitchy moments at all. Pretty fast rolling too.

Would recommend to anyone wanting a fast winter tyre and not needing the top level of puncture protection.

smokey_bacon

Ryan_W wrote:

Just changed the tyres on the S5 to Pirelli PZero Velo 4S for winter weekend rides.

Did 80km on them yesterday in the ice and wet. Very confident in cornering and no twitchy moments at all. Pretty fast rolling too.

Would recommend to anyone wanting a fast winter tyre and not needing the top level of puncture protection.

how easy are they to get on your rims?

milemuncher1

J_MCD wrote:

so no Tannus recommendations please!

Oh you’ve tried the Tannus tyres then?. .....

thought not.

But if you want a robust pneumatic tyre, I put up with the compromise of slight draggyness, and use Schwalbe D+ during the winter, over 15000 miles covered ( not the same tyres obvs) and maybe 2 visits from the p* fairy, at most. Tannus have brought out a new 25mm 700c tyre, which has a lower ‘virtual psi’ than the old model, and they really are a god send, if you don’t want to be sorting out a p*, in the dark, when it’s cold, and probably raining.

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/resist-5-pr ... 86929.html

Ive been trying these out this year as well. They roll pretty well, and have been at least as bullet proof as the D+ so far, my only concern has been that they don’t deal with wet leaves on a climb quite as well ( loss of traction ) otherwise, well worth a tenner IME.

ryan_w-2

Smokey Bacon wrote:

Ryan_W wrote:

Just changed the tyres on the S5 to Pirelli PZero Velo 4S for winter weekend rides.

Did 80km on them yesterday in the ice and wet. Very confident in cornering and no twitchy moments at all. Pretty fast rolling too.

Would recommend to anyone wanting a fast winter tyre and not needing the top level of puncture protection.

how easy are they to get on your rims?

Piece of pi$$.

Went on just with thumbs.

milemuncher1

lostboysaint wrote:

Michelin Pro4 Endurance (or whatever the current name is).

Gatorskins are horrible, I moved to GP4S when I got fed up with the lack of grip and then was almost stranded by a sidewall puncture (common!) on the GP4s when in the middle of nowhere in Portugal. Changed to Pro4 Endurance when I got the chance and haven't looked back. Roll better, grip better (wet and dry), slightly larger volume so you can drop pressures slightly for more grip and comfort. All in all the best 28mm tyre I've ridden by some way!

I do like the Michelins, but I find that they are rarely on offer anywhere. I agree with your sentiments regarding the continentals as well, I’ve had real issues with them in the past.