2017 worlds
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TailWindHome wrote:RichN95 wrote:British teams:
MRR: Owain Doull, Pete Kennaugh, Adam Blythe, Mark Christian, Jon Dibben, Tao Geoghegan Hart, Ian Stannard, Ben Swift and Scott Thwaites.
No hope
I'd say Swift is an outside bet. He's shown reasonable form at MSR on several occasions and would have a chance in a reduced sprint finish after a long race. He was also showing some decent form in the first couple of stages of the Tour against the big sprinters prior to his crash. I certainly wouldn't put him in the favourites but that's a reasonable squad (though weaker than for many years).0 -
Richmond Racer 2 wrote:I struggle seeing beyond Belgies, a Slovak or a Pole for the RR
Aussies or maybe Alaphillipe?0 -
Richmond Racer 2 wrote:I struggle seeing beyond Belgies, a Slovak or a Pole for the RR
Dutch team is quite strong.0 -
Going off season long form, I'd have said Kwia would be a strong candidate; but he's probably cream crackered. How did he go in ToB? Any flashes of early season greatness, or was he an also ran?0
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Rick Chasey wrote:Richmond Racer 2 wrote:I struggle seeing beyond Belgies, a Slovak or a Pole for the RR
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Pross wrote:TailWindHome wrote:RichN95 wrote:British teams:
MRR: Owain Doull, Pete Kennaugh, Adam Blythe, Mark Christian, Jon Dibben, Tao Geoghegan Hart, Ian Stannard, Ben Swift and Scott Thwaites.
No hope
I'd say Swift is an outside bet. He's shown reasonable form at MSR on several occasions and would have a chance in a reduced sprint finish after a long race. He was also showing some decent form in the first couple of stages of the Tour against the big sprinters prior to his crash. I certainly wouldn't put him in the favourites but that's a reasonable squad (though weaker than for many years).
Nah.0 -
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I'm holding out for the hope of afters between Biggles and Kristoff0
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Blazing Saddles wrote:How many sprinters does it take for it to constitute a sprint?
I'm waiting for the punchline.0 -
Richmond Racer 2 wrote:I'm holding out for the hope of afters between Biggles and Kristoff0
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Rick Chasey wrote:Guys, it's not gonna be a sprint finish.
Think a bit hillier than flanders/Brabantse Pijl
Pip?0 -
dish_dash wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Guys, it's not gonna be a sprint finish.
Think a bit hillier than flanders/Brabantse Pijl
Pip?
Yeah, I'm just not sure he's got a fast enough finish (having said that), given the position of the final climb.
Kwia would be bang on for this.0 -
/\ I agree, I think reduced bunch kick. It's a lot of times up that hill, some people are going to come unstuck.0
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Obviously if it's wet, it's a different cast list.
Sagan is surely the favourite again; as he is for basically anything that isn't either plan flat or 3,000m+ of climbing.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Guys, it's not gonna be a sprint finish.
Think a bit hillier than flanders/Brabantse Pijl
Surely unless it is won solo there'll be a sprint finish (as in many versions of Flanders)?
My expectation is a small group sprint or at least a small lead group making it nearly to the finish, someone might always clip off the front in that situation. Somewhere between 10 and 20 riders, Classics specialists but the ones who can sprint pretty well (and who have been mentioned above generally). It may be hillier than Flanders or Brabantse Pijl but with those races it is a combination of the narrow, twisty roads; cobbles and gradient of the climbs that help split it up rather than the actual amount of elevation. I'm not sure how the Worlds route compares on any of those but I'm guessing that with the size of field and mix of inexperienced riders that it is unlikely to be as technical. Just look at Amstel Gold, that's got a few hills but in 2016 there was a big group at the end (even though 2 managed to clip off by 4 seconds) and in 2015 it was a reduced bunch sprint. Even LBL usually has a bit of a bunch left and it's only the actual uphill 1km finish that stops it being a sprint.0 -
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True, but I don't think anyone has really predicted that. Most are going for a Sagan / Kwia / Matthews type rider.0
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UK tv coverage:
http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racin ... ide-288593"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Cheers for the schedules.0
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Provisional Men's elite ITT start list.
Albania
HALILAJ Redi
SEFA Ylber
ZHUPA Eugert
Argentina
SEPULVEDA Eduardo
Australia
DENNIS Rohan
Austria
BRÄNDLE Matthias
POSTLBERGER Lukas
ZOIDL Riccardo
Azerbaijan
SADOV Elchin
Belgium
CAMPENAERTS Victor
DE PLUS Laurens
HERMANS Ben
LAMPAERT Yves
Belarus
KIRYIENKA Vasil
SAMOILAU Branislau
SUITSOU Kanstantsin
Colombia
PANTANO GOMEZ Jarlinson
Czech Republic
BARTA Jan
Denmark
HANSEN Lasse Norman
MADSEN Martin Toft
Eritrea
BERHANE Natnael
DEBESAY Mekseb
KUDUS Merhawi
TESHOME Meron
Spain
CASTROVIEJO Jonathan
DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David
HERRADA Jesus
IZAGUIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka
Estonia
TAARAMAE Rein
France
GOUGEARD Alexis
ROUX Anthony
VACHON Florian
Great Britain
CUMMINGS Stephen
FROOME Chris
Germany
ARNDT Nikias
MARTIN Tony
POLITT Nils
SUTTERLIN Jasha
Guyana
BURROWES Jermaine
Hong Kong, China
CHEUNG King Lok
Ireland
ROCHE Nicolas
Italy
MARCATO Marco
MOSCON Gianni
PASQUALON Andrea
Kazakhstan
BIZHIGITOV Zhandos
GRUZDEV Dmitriy
LUTSENKO Alexey
ZEITS Andrey
Lithuania
KONOVALOVAS Ignatas
Luxembourg
JUNGELS Bob
KIRSCH Alex
Morocco
HADDI Soufiane
Mexico
MARTINS SANDOVAL Uri
PRADO Ignacio
Netherlands
CLEMENT Stef
DUMOULIN Tom
KELDERMAN Wilco
Norway
HAGEN Edvald Boasson
VANGSTAD Andreas
New Zealand
BOND Hamish
Pakistan
KHAN Awais
MUHAMMAD Arsalan Anjum
Poland
BIALOBLOCKI Marcin
BODNAR Maciej
KWIATKOWSKI Michal
Portugal
COSTA Rui
OLIVEIRA Nelson
Romania
TVETCOV Serghei
South Africa
SMIT Willem Jakobus
Russian Federation
BELKOV Maxim
EVTUSHENKO Alexander
ZAKARIN Ilnur
Rwanda
NDAYISENGA Valens
Singapore
TAN Gabriel
TEOH Yi Peng
Slovenia
ROGLIC Primoz
TRATNIK Jan
Switzerland
HOLLENSTEIN Reto
KUNG Stefan
Sweden
LUDVIGSSON Tobias
Syrian Arab Republic
JASER Nazir
WAIS Ahmad Badreddin
Ukraine
GRIVKO Andrey
RYBARUK Kostyantyn
USA
HAGA Chad
ROSSKOPF Joseph
VAN GARDEREN Tejay
Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racin ... j4AqStb.990 -
RichN95 wrote:Sky's TTT team: Froome, Thomas, Kwiatkowski, Moscon, Kiryienka, Doull
I think they are taking it seriously
With that team selection in the TTT and the hill in the ITT it is not beyond the bounds of possibility for Froome to end up with two Grand Tours and two World championships0 -
What's the TTT route? Is it different?0
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ie Looks less technical, less city centre (ie possibly more wind/rain swept), and no wicked hill at the end (although quite a nasty one in the middle)0
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The hill in the RR doesn't look that bad on the profile and is a long way from the finish, would have thought many of the sprinters would be able to hold on?Blog on my first and now second season of proper riding/racing - www.firstseasonracing.com0
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okgo wrote:The hill in the RR doesn't look that bad on the profile and is a long way from the finish, would have thought many of the sprinters would be able to hold on?
11 times up it though.
I'd be pretty surprised.
Cav etc couldn't even hold on to the group 9 times up Box during the olympics, and this is a little harder than that.0 -
Anyone who's got an interest in it not being a pure sprint finish should be able to make it hard enough across 11 goes up it to drop most of the pure sprinters, I'd have thought?0