But I might wait a while. Shimano have just launched a new 105 front deraileur, FD-5801, which is meant to need less shifting force from your fingers and doesn't have that long shifting arm with a cable that rubs your calf. Trickled down tech from Dura Ace and Ultegra.
Ill bet they'll bring out a complete 105 groupset soon, then you'll either get the 5800 series at discount price, or can opt for the latest tech.
Depends how soon you want to be riding it. Personally I'd rather get new 105 than used (and therefore worn, marked or stolen or all 3;) ) Ultegra/Force. I doubt you'd get Red/DA secondhand for £300 unless it was definitely nicked
Hi, I got a shorter carbon frame which I want to build up.
I cant decide which group set to go for 105/sram force etc.
what would you use?
Thanks Ed
Of those, 105 is comparable to SRAM Rival not Force which sits between Ultegra and Dura Ace. If you can find it for the money, I'd go Force 22, but it'll be tough on your budget. Shimano is smoother shifting, but I don't like the brake being part of the shift mechanism. SRAM is also instinctive for me. Rival 22 is a good groupset, so don't discount it.
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Yup, i'd go second-hand SRAM Rival. To be honest if sticking to mechanical there is little difference between 105 & Ultegra or Rival & Force. The difference is less than a well-cleaned set of cables and some weight in my experience. Best thing is go to a shop, sit on a bike with SRAM Vs Shimano and see what lever fits you hand best and, if you can try them, which 'action' you prefer.
Haven't used SRAM myself, but if you're okay with the different shifting with SRAM then may be a good option.
For the others, I'd go with 105 as I can't really tell any difference between my 5800 and 6800 bikes.
New (old version) 6800 Ultegra in the clearance areas of all the internet shops - very good, dirt cheap and you don't mind smashing it up as it's only Ultegra. Around £400 I think so a tad over budget but not much.
If you can track down Rival it's nicer to ride with but is more fanickity to live with.
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
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But I might wait a while. Shimano have just launched a new 105 front deraileur, FD-5801, which is meant to need less shifting force from your fingers and doesn't have that long shifting arm with a cable that rubs your calf. Trickled down tech from Dura Ace and Ultegra.
Ill bet they'll bring out a complete 105 groupset soon, then you'll either get the 5800 series at discount price, or can opt for the latest tech.
Of those, 105 is comparable to SRAM Rival not Force which sits between Ultegra and Dura Ace. If you can find it for the money, I'd go Force 22, but it'll be tough on your budget. Shimano is smoother shifting, but I don't like the brake being part of the shift mechanism. SRAM is also instinctive for me. Rival 22 is a good groupset, so don't discount it.
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For the others, I'd go with 105 as I can't really tell any difference between my 5800 and 6800 bikes.
If you can track down Rival it's nicer to ride with but is more fanickity to live with.
De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across.
Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour
There really isn't much difference between group sets now - they're all decent.
What do you use now ? What do you prefer - that's the key.