Vuelta 2017: Stage 12: Motril - Antequera. Los Dólmenes 160kms *Spoilers*

mrfpb

TheBigBean wrote:

GC

1 FROOME Christopher TEAM SKY 49h 22' 53''
2 NIBALI Vincenzo BAHRAIN - MERIDA 49h 23' 52'' + 00' 59''
3 CHAVES RUBIO Johan Esteban ORICA - SCOTT 49h 25' 06'' + 02' 13''
4 DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David QUICK - STEP FLOORS 49h 25' 09'' + 02' 16''
5 KELDERMAN Wilco TEAM SUNWEB 49h 25' 10'' + 02' 17''
6 ZAKARIN Ilnur TEAM KATUSHA ALPECIN 49h 25' 11'' + 02' 18''
7 ARU Fabio ASTANA PRO TEAM 49h 25' 30'' + 02' 37''
8 WOODS Michael CANNONDALE DRAPAC PROFESSIONAL CYCLING TEAM 49h 25' 34'' + 02' 41''
9 CONTADOR Alberto TREK - SEGAFREDO 49h 26' 06'' + 03' 13''
10 LOPEZ MORENO Miguel Angel ASTANA PRO TEAM 49h 26' 44'' + 03' 51''
11 ROCHE Nicolas BMC RACING TEAM 49h 27' 18'' + 04' 25''
12 VAN GARDEREN Tejay BMC RACING TEAM 49h 27' 18'' + 04' 25''
13 OOMEN Sam TEAM SUNWEB 49h 27' 34'' + 04' 41''
14 POELS Wout TEAM SKY 49h 27' 47'' + 04' 54''
15 KRUIJSWIJK Steven TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO 49h 28' 43'' + 05' 50''

COmpare to GC before the rest day

1. GBR FROOME Christopher 21 TEAM SKY 36h 33' 16''
2. COL CHAVES RUBIO Johan Esteban 41 ORICA - SCOTT 36h 33' 52'' + 00' 36''
3. IRL ROCHE Nicolas 36 BMC RACING TEAM 36h 34' 21'' + 01' 05''
4. ITA NIBALI Vincenzo 151 BAHRAIN - MERIDA 36h 34' 33'' + 01' 17''
5. USA VAN GARDEREN Tejay 38 BMC RACING TEAM 36h 34' 43'' + 01' 27''
6. ESP DE LA CRUZ MELGAREJO David 11 QUICK - STEP FLOORS 36h 34' 46'' + 01' 30''
7. ITA ARU Fabio 131 ASTANA PRO TEAM 36h 34' 49'' + 01' 33''
8. CAN WOODS Michael 91 CANNONDALE DRAPAC PROFESSIONAL CYCLING TEAM 36h 35' 08'' + 01' 52''
9. GBR YATES Adam 48 ORICA - SCOTT 36h 35' 11'' + 01' 55''
10. RUS ZAKARIN Ilnur 101 TEAM KATUSHA ALPECIN 36h 35' 31'' + 02' 15''
11. NED KELDERMAN Wilco 61 TEAM SUNWEB 36h 35' 47'' + 02' 31''
12. NED OOMEN Sam 69 TEAM SUNWEB 36h 36' 20'' + 03' 04''
13. ESP CONTADOR Alberto 1 TREK - SEGAFREDO 36h 36' 48'' + 03' 32''
14. NED POELS Wout 27 TEAM SKY 36h 37' 01'' + 03' 45''
15. SLO POLANC Jan 128 UAE TEAM EMIRATES 36h 37' 23'' + 04' 07''

Those two stages have really shaken up the top of the table. Someone critisized Contador a few days back for "racing for 13th place" but he's really livening things up. This time last week he was sitting in 23rd place.

larkim

Salsiccia1 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

Salsiccia1 wrote:

WTAF is going on here

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYd-J0JnywW/

Edit: apologies, missed this being posted up the thread

My guess is that it will turn out to be someone with special needs. The question is why is he that side of the barriers?

Now confirmed that it was someone with Downs Syndrome. The body shape and the running gait was a clue.

Makes a bit more sense now. Perhaps he saw other fans giving riders pushes and got confused/excited, you can't imagine there being any malice in it. Either way it's a bit of a relief that it's not something more sinister like a pissed-up idiot or worse, and that there were no serious consequences.

As a dad of a young man with DS it still wouldn't be particularly excusable, though my son can get quite excitable from time to time and it is plausible that it was just a clumsy attempt at a push up the hill by him.

Shame though as it goes to reinforcing some of the stereotypes of people with DS.

salsiccia1

larkim wrote:

Salsiccia1 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

Salsiccia1 wrote:

WTAF is going on here

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYd-J0JnywW/

Edit: apologies, missed this being posted up the thread

My guess is that it will turn out to be someone with special needs. The question is why is he that side of the barriers?

Now confirmed that it was someone with Downs Syndrome. The body shape and the running gait was a clue.

Makes a bit more sense now. Perhaps he saw other fans giving riders pushes and got confused/excited, you can't imagine there being any malice in it. Either way it's a bit of a relief that it's not something more sinister like a pissed-up idiot or worse, and that there were no serious consequences.

As a dad of a young man with DS it still wouldn't be particularly excusable, though my son can get quite excitable from time to time and it is plausible that it was just a clumsy attempt at a push up the hill by him.

Shame though as it goes to reinforcing some of the stereotypes of people with DS.

It is a shame but hopefully people can see it for what it is and not make judgements based on it.

DeVlaeminck

mfin wrote:

Good stage today. Shame the steward/police guy does the right thing and pushes a prat around and it ended up like that. Hey ho.

All very watchable, enjoying this year's race.

Yes I don't have a problem with the Spanish police being heavy handed either.

No doubt the spectators have been warned ahead of the race and overall they've been very well behaved. Something needed to be done because as we've seen at the Tour, admittedly with bigger crowds, the spectators are starting to impact on the racing and having fans encroaching where race vehicles and riders need space is dangerous.

Vino'sGhost

Salsiccia1 wrote:

larkim wrote:

Salsiccia1 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

Salsiccia1 wrote:

WTAF is going on here

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYd-J0JnywW/

Edit: apologies, missed this being posted up the thread

My guess is that it will turn out to be someone with special needs. The question is why is he that side of the barriers?

Now confirmed that it was someone with Downs Syndrome. The body shape and the running gait was a clue.

Makes a bit more sense now. Perhaps he saw other fans giving riders pushes and got confused/excited, you can't imagine there being any malice in it. Either way it's a bit of a relief that it's not something more sinister like a pissed-up idiot or worse, and that there were no serious consequences.

As a dad of a young man with DS it still wouldn't be particularly excusable, though my son can get quite excitable from time to time and it is plausible that it was just a clumsy attempt at a push up the hill by him.

Shame though as it goes to reinforcing some of the stereotypes of people with DS.

It is a shame but hopefully people can see it for what it is and not make judgements based on it.

What it was, was a spectator deliberately pushing a rider off. Fortunately he doesn't appear to have been too badly hurt.

larkim

Vino'sGhost wrote:

What it was, was a spectator deliberately pushing a rider off. Fortunately he doesn't appear to have been too badly hurt.

Not entirely convinced that that is accurate. It was a spectator pushing a rider off. Whether they were deliberately trying to push him off or not I think is impossible to judge from the TV. So unless there are spanish newspaper reports with comments from the man involved or his family I'd not necessarily judge.

mamil314

RichN95 wrote:

Ian Stannard is much bigger than I expected - he could play rugby

Isn't everyone, looking from down there?

He is quite big, true. Although, when i saw him in Roubaix a couple of years ago, he did not, particularly, stand out next to Boonen and Hayman

sherer

This video is doing the rounds a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CylFWy- ... e&t=31m50s

Apparently it "shows" Froome using a motor at the end of the stage. Although to me it looks like he is just riding downhill in the finish area.

tim000

and with someone pushing him . if he did have a motor why would he still have it on after the finish and after he had come to a stop by his teammate?

RichN95.

sherer wrote:

This video is doing the rounds a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CylFWy- ... e&t=31m50s

Apparently it "shows" Froome using a motor at the end of the stage. Although to me it looks like he is just riding downhill in the finish area.

Having personally walked along that stretch of road on the day, it's downhill. The finish was at the top of small hill.

bobmcstuff

People see what they want to see don't they.

Richmond Racer 2

soz, what am I supposed to be looking at in the video for proof of Dastardly Shenanigans?

tim000

Richmond Racer 2 wrote:

soz, what am I supposed to be looking at in the video for proof of Dastardly Shenanigans?

the bike moving forward without froome turning the peddles . it`s witchcraft I tell you , burn him . :roll:

sherer

apologies, a slow week at work meant I ended up visiting the asylum !!

Thought it was a downhill section when I first watched it