prudential ride london 100 advice
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Rick Chasey wrote:What do you do the rest of the time when riding tubs?
The same as i will do for this, i cary a spare tub, sealant, superglue and co2 canisters
I think to be honest i have put too much emphasis on this ride, i was regularly riding 60-70 miles at a weekend without a second thought but my ability to ride is fading faster than i like to admit and this is probably going to be my last opportunity to even attempt a ride like this so i have put it up on a pedestal and made more of it than it really is.
If i don't make the end because of physical limitation that will be one thing but if i don't make it because of a mechanical i will be devastated0 -
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tbloke wrote:Kingstonian wrote:tbloke wrote:i asked the question because according to the ride london website there will be 100,000 cyclists taking part in the event, to my mind that meant it would be fairly well supported by local bike shops etc and there would be mechanical assistance along the route.
Having done events previously that are much smaller but very well supported i didn't think this to be an unreasonable assumption obviously i was wrong!
No i didn't ask about timing chips at feed stations I'm not particularly concerned about my time just about enjoying the day
I ride tubular because i don't have the luxury of a selection of sets of wheels i have 2 sets of wheels both tubs, the reason i ride tubs in the first place is because they are lighter, less rotational mass, higher pressure for less rolling resistance, less likely to get a puncture but thats no guarente you won't! etc I'm sure everyone reading this knows the benefits of tubulars ( as well as the pit falls ) all of the reasons to ride them are marginal gains but i ride with 1 leg so any gain i can get i will gladly take no matter how small it may be!!
I don't have a particular time in mind i just want to have a good day in nice weather with nice people.
I was always told the only stupid question is the one you don't ask but that doesn't seem to apply here for some reason! maybe your all members of mensa and know all the answers to everything so all questions appear to be stupid to you who knows.
I think there are about 25,000 people doing the event on Sunday - it definitely isn't 100,000
There are a few specified places on the route that can provide bike repairs etc, but on a 100 mile route the likelihood of you getting a puncture close enough to one of them to easily walk to it is fairly slim. You have probably been sent the map of the event by now so on there you'll see they are spread fairly wide apart.
I don't remember seeing any mobile support bikes etc, they may well be operating on the route but if they do I would suspect they'll have a few inner tubes with them, but probably not tubular.
At places on the route you do go very close to a few bike shops, but bear in mind the start is early and most of them won't be open on a Sunday until 11am.
As per my advice above, I would take a spare tubular with you if you can't do the ride with clinchers.
And I was polite in my mail above, and in this one, and don't claim to be in Mensa.......
It was in no way aimed at you sir i appreciate your comments, as i appreciate the other helpful ones who have also posted. There are however a few who could benefit from one of my mothers old sayings
" if you have nothing nice to say then best to say nothing at all "
I got the figures directly from the ride london website so i can only assume they are correct. below is copied from the frequently asked questions section of the site.
What is Prudential RideLondon?
Prudential RideLondon is the world’s greatest festival of cycling, with more than 100,000 cyclists expected to participate during the weekend of 28-30 July 2017. This will be the fifth edition of the festival.
The festival was developed by the Mayor of London, London & Partners and Transport for London in partnership with Surrey County Council. The event is managed by the London & Surrey Cycling Partnership (LSCP) and sponsored by Prudential.
Ah, the figure of 100,000 will include the family etc event they do in central London when the roads are closed on a short route (just a few miles). The Sunday ride is about 25,000 participants0 -
Carbonator wrote:Brakeless wrote:
Why are you riding Tubulars ?
Tubulars are much nicer than clinchers generally,
Somewhat nicer I agree but much nicer?
FFS! Harden up and grow a pair
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Svetty wrote:Carbonator wrote:Brakeless wrote:
Why are you riding Tubulars ?
Tubulars are much nicer than clinchers generally,
Somewhat nicer I agree but much nicer?
Peoples expectations and feelings on how much things are different will vary quite a bit, so lets just agree they are nicer
By generally I meant compared to average wheels/tyres/tubes.
By much I meant noticeably different and worth the cost/hassle if you want a nicer ride.
I don't use butyl tubes anymore since trying tubs.
Nearest comparison I can think of would be how I found 11 speed Shimano groupsets better than 10 speed.0 -
Actually latest reports say that the best clinchers have lower rolling resistance than tubs. Hence they were used by some teams during time trials.
Why would you bother using tubs in this type of event the cons outweigh the pros. If you puncture a clincher it's easily changed in minutes and easy to get a spare.
Likely if you puncture in a tub it's likely game over.
I know someone who had this problem on a London to Paris ride and 20 minutes into France no spare tubs about and he had to get driven back to the ferry and wait0 -
Stealth Rider1 wrote:Actually latest reports say that the best clinchers have lower rolling resistance than tubs. Hence they were used by some teams during time trials.
Hold the press!! Latest reports lol.
What wheels/tyres/tubes do you use?0 -
Stealth Rider1 wrote:Likely if you puncture in a tub it's likely game over.
I know someone who had this problem on a London to Paris ride and 20 minutes into France no spare tubs about and he had to get driven back to the ferry and wait
We all used to ride tubs back in the day. Take a spare with you and you'll be good. Take 2 if you're the only one of your mates on tubs or its a long or important ride. It's not difficult.0 -
Carbonator wrote:Stealth Rider1 wrote:Actually latest reports say that the best clinchers have lower rolling resistance than tubs. Hence they were used by some teams during time trials.
Hold the press!! Latest reports lol.
What wheels/tyres/tubes do you use?
Corsa Speed, Turbo Cotton - both quicker than just about all tubs.Blog on my first and now second season of proper riding/racing - www.firstseasonracing.com0 -
okgo wrote:Carbonator wrote:Stealth Rider1 wrote:Actually latest reports say that the best clinchers have lower rolling resistance than tubs. Hence they were used by some teams during time trials.
Hold the press!! Latest reports lol.
What wheels/tyres/tubes do you use?
Corsa Speed, Turbo Cotton - both quicker than just about all tubs.
Did you change your name by deed poll too, or just on here?
No one is disputing there are fast clinchers around.
It was not even about speed in the first place.
Anyway, have a good ride everyone thats doing it
Hope you don't need the support cars OP.
Erdinger's on me at the finish before noon :P0 -
I had two punctures, with a split tyre and broke a spoke last year. Spent best part of 2 hours roadside and not a support vehicle to be found. Managed to make my way to a bike shop on the route and got a new tyre and finished the event.
Don't rely on any service help on course.
There were about 45,000 riders last year on the Sunday.
It's an event to do once, pray you don't get wiped out by some idiot, and don't go back - really badly organized and very expensive for what you don't get, especiially in comparison to the big European events. Organized by the London Marathon who know diddly squat about mass participation cycling events.
4 years in and they've still not managed to give everyone the chance to ride the full course......0 -
tbloke wrote:No I actually can't remember the last time I did puncture!
On longer rides I normally carry 1 or 2 spare tubs some sealant, super glue and a roll of tub tape so I should be good. I was just curious more than anything. When I did London to Brighton off road a guy in the group had to buy a tyre as he destroyed a sidewalk and another had to have a mech cable replaced and the mechanic stops were fairly frequent and very helpful. They're basically just local bike shops that position themselves along the route from what I could see
How the hell did a cyclist manage to damage a sidewalk? presumably with the tyre that needed replacing. Why was he riding on a sidewalk anyway?0 -
I've not worried this much about riding tubs in an Ironman I've spent six months or more working hard for and spent a small fortune entering and travelling overseas to. Spare tub, a tube or two of sealant and some spare tape and that should cover you for a couple of punctures. If you have more than that then you're going to have to accept your bad luck and abandon. I actually worry more on the rare occasions I ride my best bike on its tubs to work when a couple of us go out for a longer ride in the evening and I can't be arsed to put the clinchers on and change the brake blocks before I go.
To the OP if you're THAT worried about it in future, sell one of the wheel sets with tubs and buy a set of clinchers.0 -
Dorset Boy wrote:I had two punctures, with a split tyre and broke a spoke last year. Spent best part of 2 hours roadside and not a support vehicle to be found. Managed to make my way to a bike shop on the route and got a new tyre and finished the event.
Don't rely on any service help on course.
There were about 45,000 riders last year on the Sunday.
It's an event to do once, pray you don't get wiped out by some idiot, and don't go back - really badly organized and very expensive for what you don't get, especiially in comparison to the big European events. Organized by the London Marathon who know diddly squat about mass participation cycling events.
4 years in and they've still not managed to give everyone the chance to ride the full course......
This is the 2nd time I've done it and I have to agree.
Only did 75 miles last year due to the deaths but they offered me a place this year as compo...0852 start which was more or less the last wave which meant I spent the time being rushed at each feed station with threats of road closures...missed Leigth Hill so ended up with 92 miles.
Still a lot of fun...don't have the option of euro events!0 -
Dorset Boy wrote:There were about 45,000 riders last year
Er. No there wasn't
[/quote] very expensive for what you don't get, especiially in comparison to the big European events. [/quote]
How much are the big European events then?
£54 does not seem like much to me and it's ridiculous to compare anyway when you live in the U.K.0 -
Dorset Boy wrote:There were about 45,000 riders last year
Er. No there wasn'tDorset Boy wrote:very expensive for what you don't get, especiially in comparison to the big European events.
How much are the big European events then?
What exactly is this 'very expensive' difference in cost?
£54 does not seem like much to me and it's ridiculous to compare anyway when you live in the U.K.
Not to mention it's s fcuking fundraising gig.
What European events close the roads through their capital city?
Do the European events post your bike back to your home address for free if it goes tits up for you?
I just don't get why people seem to know the costs of these things and therefor a fair 'cost price'.
People that would probably pay through the nose for other things that give them social kudos.
People that are probably more than happy to stay in a hotel poncing off other guests (and then laughing at them) who actually pay for the staff and running costs.0 -
Grumpy?!!
Between the 46 and 100 mile routes last year they were suggesting in the region of 45k riders last year in total at one time. They claim over 100,000 including the Saturday pootle around central London.
If you think that's wrong then please let me know what the actual numbers were - clearly there were too many for the event as the pro racer had to sit in a field.
Did everyone get the chance to ride the full 100 miles this year for the first time?
I also can't believe there were still people coming up the Mall when the pros were 20 minutes away!
The big European events tend to be under 100 euros and that will often include a jersey, or other goodies - I have two quality back packs from the etape, from PRL I got a plastic bag and a bottle of water!
On the etape for example if you need assistance there's a bike there within minutes. That certainly wasn't the case last year at PRL, and there was no obvious assistance provided the year before either.0 -
Anyone know if there's a list by finish time floating around? I know full well it's not a race and it doesn't matter but I was under 4 hours and curious how many got in ahead of me.0
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kammybear wrote:Dorset Boy wrote:I had two punctures, with a split tyre and broke a spoke last year. Spent best part of 2 hours roadside and not a support vehicle to be found. Managed to make my way to a bike shop on the route and got a new tyre and finished the event.
Don't rely on any service help on course.
There were about 45,000 riders last year on the Sunday.
It's an event to do once, pray you don't get wiped out by some idiot, and don't go back - really badly organized and very expensive for what you don't get, especiially in comparison to the big European events. Organized by the London Marathon who know diddly squat about mass participation cycling events.
4 years in and they've still not managed to give everyone the chance to ride the full course......
This is the 2nd time I've done it and I have to agree.
Only did 75 miles last year due to the deaths but they offered me a place this year as compo...0852 start which was more or less the last wave which meant I spent the time being rushed at each feed station with threats of road closures...missed Leigth Hill so ended up with 92 miles.
Still a lot of fun...don't have the option of euro events!
It is hardly the organisers fault that you stopped at each feed station0 -
Why were the pros racer sitting in fields?
CX section?0 -
Moonbiker wrote:Why were the pros racer sitting in fields?
CX section?
Because the organizers allow too many entrants, coupled with too many crashes causing monster bottlenecks, last year the pro race was catching the back of the sportive. The pros were therefore stopped and sat in a field for getting on for an hour. :roll:0
