TDF 2017: Stage 11 - July12th. Eymet - Pau - 203.5kms *Spoilers*

Richmond Racer 2

KingstonGraham wrote:

I think Moto 3 might have broken down.

I know how it feels. This is dull stuff

Pross

Can't work out what's going on, the peloton looked at full stretch now they're bunched back up and the. Real has increased its lead by 1' 30" or so in a couple of km confused!

darkhairedlord

Pross wrote:

Can't work out what's going on, the peloton looked at full stretch now they're bunched back up and the. Real has increased its lead by 1' 30" or so in a couple of km confused!

I think they slowed down to ask Prudhomme if he is sure someone is watching and can they all just get on the bus now?

blazing_saddles

So, according to DM, Specialized are going to sue the UCI for loss of sponsorship revenue based upon their "wrong" decision to exclude Sagan from the race.

Pross wrote:

Can't work out what's going on, the peloton looked at full stretch now they're bunched back up and the. Real has increased its lead by 1' 30" or so in a couple of km confused!

Wind. Gaps in the trees and whatnot.

above_the_cows

underlayunderlay wrote:

Besides, you find your pleasures where you can - has anyone escaped off the back yet?

Funny you should ask.

I spy with my little eye something beginning with S...

above_the_cows

Richmond Racer 2 wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

I think Moto 3 might have broken down.

I know how it feels. This is dull stuff

Fear not Moto3 lives! And even has a face. He's hanging out with everyone's favourite Austrian, no not Captain von Trapp, who else could it be but Bernie Eisel.

ugo.santalucia

An utterly pointless stage... yet again... someone drew a straight line between those two settlements and found the flattest, dullest roads that best fit the line, promising great racing!

Pross

Blazing Saddles wrote:

Wind. Gaps in the trees and whatnot.

So is the any grounds for hope?

On the Sagan thing I thought CAS had already ruled the DQ was fair. Also, what legal jurisdiction would they be suing under? If it's France as I assume it would be they may as well not waste their money.

sherer

finally get to watch a stage at work and I pick completely the wrong day ! Looks like the break have slowed down so the peloton have too. Seems they want an off day.

Not sure I agree with Specialised suing the UCI. What happens on the race should stay there, not be dragged through the courts.

kingstongraham

Above The Cows wrote:

Richmond Racer 2 wrote:

KingstonGraham wrote:

I think Moto 3 might have broken down.

I know how it feels. This is dull stuff

Fear not Moto3 lives! And even has a face. He's hanging out with everyone's favourite Austrian, no not Captain von Trapp, who else could it be but Bernie Eisel.

Yes, there was a couple of minutes of images of gravel and motorbike boots when they put the camera down, but I think they were either having their own comfort break or refuelling. France TV car was stopped just behind them. It was quite a moment in the context of today.

Flâneur

Except it is all a business with sponsors all wanting a return. Just us mere mortals who are after a race

above_the_cows

above_the_cows

Pross wrote:

Blazing Saddles wrote:

Wind. Gaps in the trees and whatnot.

So is the any grounds for hope?

On the Sagan thing I thought CAS had already ruled the DQ was fair. Also, what legal jurisdiction would they be suing under? If it's France as I assume it would be they may as well not waste their money.

They're discussing this right now on Dutch Eurosport, saying that the organisers were hoping for stronger winds today as there is usually always a westerly sea breeze and that this very boring stage was designed to be blown to bits. I think they're speaking more in hope than actually saying this is what the stage was designed to be... But who knows.

above_the_cows

Apparently this church is decorated with cycling jerseys.

above_the_cows

Sunflowers. DRINK!

emadden

sherer wrote:

finally get to watch a stage at work and I pick completely the wrong day ! Looks like the break have slowed down so the peloton have too. Seems they want an off day.

Not sure I agree with Specialised suing the UCI. What happens on the race should stay there, not be dragged through the courts.

Suing the UCI is exactly the right thing to do. The UCI needs to held to a high standard when making decisions that affect the livelihood of riders and the interests of sponsors. The UCI commissaires decision to eject Sagan was hasty, didn't follow the UCIs own rules for due process (allowing Sagan the opportunity to be heard) and from what we know (as again, transparency is an issue) was likely founded on a wrong conclusion i.e. that Sagan elbowed Cav. Subsequent footage demonstrated this to be untrue. As a consequence, a case could easily be made that negligence played a large part in the decision to eject.

Sponsors such as Bora/Hansgrohe and Specialized put funds into teams so as to get a return on investment. That return is massively diminished if they fail to get their anticipated exposure in the biggest race of the year due to the negligence of the sport's governing body.

Just my two cents.

Pross

Cummings mainly races like I did, the difference is he's good enough to get across any gaps that come up in front of him and go for a successful break occasionally.

above_the_cows

Oh no it's this church that is the one decorated with cycling jerseys. As you were.

emadden

Pross wrote:

So is the any grounds for hope?

On the Sagan thing I thought CAS had already ruled the DQ was fair. Also, what legal jurisdiction would they be suing under? If it's France as I assume it would be they may as well not waste their money.

Not correct. The CAS didn't rule that the DQ was fair. The CAS simply rejected the application of the team for relief. That relief would have been something along the lines of an immediate reinstatement in the race. The CAS likely felt that that remedy would be unavailable (perhaps due to the impossibility of reinstating a rider who would have missed two stages) and hence the application was refused. There was absolutely no adjudication on the merits of the ejection.

If Specialised were to sue UCI, then they could sue them in Switzerland or Germany - but most likely venue for the case would be Switzerland.

above_the_cows

Oh dear it looks like someone fell asleep in the peloton. Cataldo looks like he has hurt his hand.

blazing_saddles

Cataldo's Tour looks to have ended at the ravitaillement.
Degenkolb none too pleased having to wait for a new bike.

dish_dash

Crash in the feed. Degenkolb down. Cataldo looks to be hurt...

dish_dash

knedlicky wrote:

Salsiccia1 wrote:

dish_dash wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

dish_dash wrote:

So I'm stuck bruised and battered at home and all I get are bloody sprint stages... still not giving me much enthusiasm for this tour...

What happened?
I am really not feeling this Tour if I'm being honest. Oh well, it's a good thing because I have lots of work to do over the next 10 days.

A bit of a ramble about it here to get it off my chest. viewtopic.php?f=40007&t=13081975#p20175404

:shock:
Nice write up though, hope the road rash is healing.

Agree with ATC.
Nicer jersey this year than other years, so I hope it survived your falls!

I was told last year it was hot and dry, well at least until the top of Fauniera where it was misty - so necessitating a careful descent although dry.
And ah the Lombarda, been on my to-do list for years. When I was in the area, and on my way to it, I suddenly changed my mind and did the Maddalena instead, and not been back since.

Yeah. It's a nice jersey. Thankfully seems to have survived largely unscathed. It's the shorts that took the main hits...

Lombarda highly recommended. Lots of signs for Nibali as I think they came up from the French side a couple of years ago...

blazing_saddles

Cataldo confirmed abandon.
Aru loses some major horsepower.

Richmond Racer 2

ah, dear old behemoth Specialized

always the knee-jerk to sue

there was that time they threatened to sue a Canadian bike shop for using the name 'Cafe Roubaix'
http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/specia ... eat/015773


then there was their case against RockShox in 1990 (case was thrown out)

then there was the time in 2006 when they sued Mountain Cycle over its use of the name 'Stumptown'. Mountain Cycle has to close up shop soon after

then there was the time they forced a guy making bikepacking bags to change his name from "Epic" to "Revelation", claiming they had the right to the word "epic" in the bike industry

and so on and so on



I have no time for that shower of a company

blazing_saddles

Fuglsang also has a problem with his wrist and hand.
Judging from the traffic at the doctor's car, quite a few took tumbles.

emadden

The ASO definitely got this route wrong... 9 sprinter stages in a GT is excessive... Granted the Tour needs to cover long distances in some stages so as to move the race geographically, but one (crazy?) option may be to introduce split stages. Granted the logistics are tricky, but the Tour has the money to do this. Instead of 1 boring flat 200km stage, have two 100km stages which would likely be ridden much quicker.

The other extreme is the case of the triple stage split in 1971 when riders were still finishing the first stage when the second stage started :-)

kleinstroker

Scooby snack for Axel Doumont..

emadden

Rob Hatch having a good debate about the lack of action :-)

lettingthedaysgoby

Tried the ITV coverage for the first time today in an attempt to relieve the boredom.

Quite impressed actually.