The NHS 'hack'

bendertherobot

Looks very bad indeed.

Perhaps the man at the top should go?

oxoman

No doubt there will be a witch hunt to find out who opened the email that started it. Then the Tories will be blaming Labour and vice versa and every other political party will say let's go back to pen and paper. But agree it's a bad thing and shouldn't happen, it's also targeted some big businesses as well.

bendertherobot

It's worldwide and in many languages and countries. So it's not just our NHS, but this does reflect badly.

bendertherobot

There was a Windows Defender exploit last week too.

Garry H

Is it limited to health organisations?

bendertherobot

Garry H wrote:

Is it limited to health organisations?

No. Utilities too.

orraloon

Just goes to show why we should spend £200bn on renewing Trident.

FocusZing

Feeeeck. We will be killing ourselves with drones before all that censored is built. I hate the way we keep acting like a world power just because we once had an Empire. One strike on the UK and we are gone anyway. Russia, US, China have enough land to want to protect.

Garry H

FocusZing wrote:

Feeeeck. We will be killing ourselves with drones before all that censored is built. I hate the way we keep acting like a world power just because we once had an Empire. One strike on the UK and we are gone anyway. Russia, US, China have enough land to want to protect.

One strike on the uk and whatever piece of land the missile left is farked as well.

meanredspider

Great documentary on Britain's H-bomb and just how it helped keep our place at the top table of the world.

We were so much more ambitious back then - sorted an H-bomb (mostly on our own) then developed a supersonic airliner with the French.

meanredspider

Back OT - I'd love to know who it was that thought hacking the NHS was a good idea: I'd personally wring their neck(s) with my bare hands and stuff their genitalia down their own throat.

awavey

meanredspider wrote:

Back OT - I'd love to know who it was that thought hacking the NHS was a good idea: I'd personally wring their neck(s) with my bare hands and stuff their genitalia down their own throat.

I doubt they were specifically targetted as our firms IT security bods issued a warning for it as well and we arent anything to do with the NHS, it just sounds like an every day common garden virus, that someone or lots of someones have opened because it resembled an official looking email or link or something, and it went and encrypted anything resembling a disk drive be it local or networked that it was connected to, alot of NHS trusts still use Windows XP use the same PC to update patient medical records and browse the internet on, and once its on the system you are stuffed trying to access the data.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/1 ... er_attack/

meanredspider

awavey wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

Back OT - I'd love to know who it was that thought hacking the NHS was a good idea: I'd personally wring their neck(s) with my bare hands and stuff their genitalia down their own throat.

I doubt they were specifically targetted as our firms IT security bods issued a warning for it as well and we arent anything to do with the NHS, it just sounds like an every day common garden virus, that someone or lots of someones have opened because it resembled an official looking email or link or something, and it went and encrypted anything resembling a disk drive be it local or networked that it was connected to, alot of NHS trusts still use Windows XP use the same PC to update patient medical records and browse the internet on, and once its on the system you are stuffed trying to access the data.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/1 ... er_attack/

I'd still do the same thing if I had the chance to get hold of them...

itboffin

well i'm a bit confused by this as windows defender in windows 10 is the only version that compares to commercial AV yet pretty much no healthcare systems have up to date OS let alone windows 10, unless they went all out and mass upgraded which i find hard to believe.

so assuming they havent are they saying the NHS was relying on the old defender which wasnt a full AV?

TheBigBean

I blame NSA/GCHQ mostly.

bendertherobot

I blame wiggle

Garry H

bendertherobot wrote:

I blame wiggle

I was going to say that, but resisted.

pblakeney

Garry H wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

I blame wiggle

I was going to say that, but resisted.

Who has most to gain?
I blame A/V software companies. A conspiracy theory is more fun than simple guessing.

FocusZing

They should have used Linux. Make the software more specific and niche avoiding more generically based MS attacks.

Garry H

They should've used pen and paper

jgsi

When someone only accepts Bitcoin on Buy and Sell.. there's one lead for GCHQ/NSA et all

How on earth is this secret , untouchable money getting away with it....?

TheBigBean

GCHQ tweeted this whilst failing to protect the UK from NSA written code. Still, I'm sure it won't stop the government trying to install more backdoors and weaken security.

GCHQ‏Verified account @GCHQ 17h17 hours ago

It's a good job we're better at keeping Britain safe than writing limericks… #NationalLimerickDay

rick_chasey

Quite ^^

Matthewfalle

GCHQ, 5 and 6 are quite good at doing their jobs. Perhaps it's better for the Guardianista snowflakes not to worry too much stuff they don't understand .,..,

rick_chasey

Matthewfalle wrote:

GCHQ, 5 and 6 are quite good at doing their jobs. Perhaps it's better for the Guardianista snowflakes not to worry too much stuff they don't understand .,..,

Obviously not that well - as BB just illustrated.

FocusZing

With all the publicity, It's a shame now the NHS has to go and waste time and money on selfish idiots.

DeVlaeminck

Garry H wrote:

FocusZing wrote:

Feeeeck. We will be killing ourselves with drones before all that censored is built. I hate the way we keep acting like a world power just because we once had an Empire. One strike on the UK and we are gone anyway. Russia, US, China have enough land to want to protect.

One strike on the uk and whatever piece of land the missile left is farked as well.

Just as long as the usa agrees.

Matthewfalle

Rick Chasey wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

GCHQ, 5 and 6 are quite good at doing their jobs. Perhaps it's better for the Guardianista snowflakes not to worry too much stuff they don't understand .,..,

Obviously not that well - as BB just illustrated.

Yeah, right, because the same guy who does the tweets also does the cyber security. He's double hatted.

Sheeesh Rick ........

Garry H

DeVlaeminck wrote:

Garry H wrote:

FocusZing wrote:

Feeeeck. We will be killing ourselves with drones before all that censored is built. I hate the way we keep acting like a world power just because we once had an Empire. One strike on the UK and we are gone anyway. Russia, US, China have enough land to want to protect.

One strike on the uk and whatever piece of land the missile left is farked as well.

Just as long as the usa agrees.

Except that decision has already been made...

meanredspider

I was surprised to hear that Renault F1 suffered from this hack. Last time I was at their factory it was as a guest of Microsoft who, incidentally, sponsor Renault Sport and were showing us at the good they were doing for Renault...

rick_chasey

Matthewfalle wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

GCHQ, 5 and 6 are quite good at doing their jobs. Perhaps it's better for the Guardianista snowflakes not to worry too much stuff they don't understand .,..,

Obviously not that well - as BB just illustrated.

Yeah, right, because the same guy who does the tweets also does the cyber security. He's double hatted.

Sheeesh Rick ........

Is protecting vital systems from cyber attacks not the GCHQ remit?