The NHS 'hack'

bendertherobot
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edited May 2017 in The cake stop
Looks very bad indeed.

Perhaps the man at the top should go?
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    It's worldwide and in many languages and countries. So it's not just our NHS, but this does reflect badly.
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    There was a Windows Defender exploit last week too.
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  • Garry H
    Garry H Posts: 6,639
    Is it limited to health organisations?
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Garry H wrote:
    Is it limited to health organisations?

    No. Utilities too.
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,911
    Just goes to show why we should spend £200bn on renewing Trident.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    Feeeeck. We will be killing ourselves with drones before all that sh1t is built. I hate the way we keep acting like a world power just because we once had an Empire. One strike on the UK and we are gone anyway. Russia, US, China have enough land to want to protect.
  • Garry H
    Garry H Posts: 6,639
    FocusZing wrote:
    Feeeeck. We will be killing ourselves with drones before all that sh1t is built. I hate the way we keep acting like a world power just because we once had an Empire. One strike on the UK and we are gone anyway. Russia, US, China have enough land to want to protect.
    One strike on the uk and whatever piece of land the missile left is farked as well.
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    Great documentary on Britain's H-bomb and just how it helped keep our place at the top table of the world.

    We were so much more ambitious back then - sorted an H-bomb (mostly on our own) then developed a supersonic airliner with the French.
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  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    Back OT - I'd love to know who it was that thought hacking the NHS was a good idea: I'd personally wring their neck(s) with my bare hands and stuff their genitalia down their own throat.
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  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    Back OT - I'd love to know who it was that thought hacking the NHS was a good idea: I'd personally wring their neck(s) with my bare hands and stuff their genitalia down their own throat.

    I doubt they were specifically targetted as our firms IT security bods issued a warning for it as well and we arent anything to do with the NHS, it just sounds like an every day common garden virus, that someone or lots of someones have opened because it resembled an official looking email or link or something, and it went and encrypted anything resembling a disk drive be it local or networked that it was connected to, alot of NHS trusts still use Windows XP use the same PC to update patient medical records and browse the internet on, and once its on the system you are stuffed trying to access the data.

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/1 ... er_attack/
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    awavey wrote:
    Back OT - I'd love to know who it was that thought hacking the NHS was a good idea: I'd personally wring their neck(s) with my bare hands and stuff their genitalia down their own throat.

    I doubt they were specifically targetted as our firms IT security bods issued a warning for it as well and we arent anything to do with the NHS, it just sounds like an every day common garden virus, that someone or lots of someones have opened because it resembled an official looking email or link or something, and it went and encrypted anything resembling a disk drive be it local or networked that it was connected to, alot of NHS trusts still use Windows XP use the same PC to update patient medical records and browse the internet on, and once its on the system you are stuffed trying to access the data.

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/1 ... er_attack/

    I'd still do the same thing if I had the chance to get hold of them...
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,061
    well i'm a bit confused by this as windows defender in windows 10 is the only version that compares to commercial AV yet pretty much no healthcare systems have up to date OS let alone windows 10, unless they went all out and mass upgraded which i find hard to believe.

    so assuming they havent are they saying the NHS was relying on the old defender which wasnt a full AV?
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,945
    I blame NSA/GCHQ mostly.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    I blame wiggle
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  • Garry H
    Garry H Posts: 6,639
    I blame wiggle

    I was going to say that, but resisted.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 26,252
    Garry H wrote:
    I blame wiggle

    I was going to say that, but resisted.
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    They should have used Linux. Make the software more specific and niche avoiding more generically based MS attacks.
  • Garry H
    Garry H Posts: 6,639
    They should've used pen and paper
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    When someone only accepts Bitcoin on Buy and Sell.. there's one lead for GCHQ/NSA et all

    How on earth is this secret , untouchable money getting away with it....?
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 20,945
    GCHQ tweeted this whilst failing to protect the UK from NSA written code. Still, I'm sure it won't stop the government trying to install more backdoors and weaken security.

    GCHQ‏Verified account @GCHQ 17h17 hours ago

    It's a good job we're better at keeping Britain safe than writing limericks… #NationalLimerickDay
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,844
    Quite ^^
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    GCHQ, 5 and 6 are quite good at doing their jobs. Perhaps it's better for the Guardianista snowflakes not to worry too much stuff they don't understand .,..,
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,844
    GCHQ, 5 and 6 are quite good at doing their jobs. Perhaps it's better for the Guardianista snowflakes not to worry too much stuff they don't understand .,..,

    Obviously not that well - as BB just illustrated. :|
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    With all the publicity, It's a shame now the NHS has to go and waste time and money on selfish idiots.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 8,800
    Garry H wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Feeeeck. We will be killing ourselves with drones before all that sh1t is built. I hate the way we keep acting like a world power just because we once had an Empire. One strike on the UK and we are gone anyway. Russia, US, China have enough land to want to protect.
    One strike on the uk and whatever piece of land the missile left is farked as well.


    Just as long as the usa agrees.
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  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    GCHQ, 5 and 6 are quite good at doing their jobs. Perhaps it's better for the Guardianista snowflakes not to worry too much stuff they don't understand .,..,

    Obviously not that well - as BB just illustrated. :|


    Yeah, right, because the same guy who does the tweets also does the cyber security. He's double hatted.

    Sheeesh Rick ........
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • Garry H
    Garry H Posts: 6,639
    Garry H wrote:
    FocusZing wrote:
    Feeeeck. We will be killing ourselves with drones before all that sh1t is built. I hate the way we keep acting like a world power just because we once had an Empire. One strike on the UK and we are gone anyway. Russia, US, China have enough land to want to protect.
    One strike on the uk and whatever piece of land the missile left is farked as well.


    Just as long as the usa agrees.

    Except that decision has already been made...
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    I was surprised to hear that Renault F1 suffered from this hack. Last time I was at their factory it was as a guest of Microsoft who, incidentally, sponsor Renault Sport and were showing us at the good they were doing for Renault...
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,844
    GCHQ, 5 and 6 are quite good at doing their jobs. Perhaps it's better for the Guardianista snowflakes not to worry too much stuff they don't understand .,..,

    Obviously not that well - as BB just illustrated. :|


    Yeah, right, because the same guy who does the tweets also does the cyber security. He's double hatted.

    Sheeesh Rick ........

    Is protecting vital systems from cyber attacks not the GCHQ remit?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 73,844
    Microsoft give NSA a broadside along the lines of BigBean.

    https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issu ... mqdjgbgpt6