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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,072
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Is it really Jezza doing that well?

    Or is it just May going from being so blank everyone projected their own desired leader onto her, and she's now showing who she actually is, which is a medicore to sh!t parochial politician who's best moments have come from her saying SFA.

    People seem to like him, so I would say so.

    Incidentally, if the Lib Dems have any off switches, I would recommend turning off Nick Clegg.
  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Is it really Jezza doing that well?

    Or is it just May going from being so blank everyone projected their own desired leader onto her, and she's now showing who she actually is, which is a medicore to sh!t parochial politician who's best moments have come from her saying SFA.

    Not entirely scientific - but a poll from Martin Lewis the Money Saving expert dude on twitter had Corbyn 85% vs May 15% on their recent tv interviews. Not sure of his followers but he's pretty apolitical on twitter.

    Oh and almost 60,000 votes.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Mark my words, today is the end of May.
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  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    No May is better than a Bad May ?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Fenix wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Is it really Jezza doing that well?

    Or is it just May going from being so blank everyone projected their own desired leader onto her, and she's now showing who she actually is, which is a medicore to sh!t parochial politician who's best moments have come from her saying SFA.

    Not entirely scientific - but a poll from Martin Lewis the Money Saving expert dude on twitter had Corbyn 85% vs May 15% on their recent tv interviews. Not sure of his followers but he's pretty apolitical on twitter.

    Oh and almost 60,000 votes.

    Twitter is fairly self selecting and fairly anti Tory.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Is it really Jezza doing that well?

    Or is it just May going from being so blank everyone projected their own desired leader onto her, and she's now showing who she actually is, which is a medicore to sh!t parochial politician who's best moments have come from her saying SFA.

    People seem to like him, so I would say so.

    Incidentally, if the Lib Dems have any off switches, I would recommend turning off Nick Clegg.

    How come?

    Nick Clegg > Tim Farron
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  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Is it really Jezza doing that well?

    Or is it just May going from being so blank everyone projected their own desired leader onto her, and she's now showing who she actually is, which is a medicore to sh!t parochial politician who's best moments have come from her saying SFA.

    A bit of both, to varying degrees.

    I think it could also be to do with the fact that when the election was called, the tories were at a position where they couldn't really gain any support. Whereas Corbyn was in a position where his polling couldn't really get any worse.

    I don't see this as the end of May though. Although as someone that loves terrible jokes, it is quite a good one!
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Mark my words, today is the end of May.

    Because she's a no show tonight?
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  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Because it's June tomorrow.....
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Is it really Jezza doing that well?

    Or is it just May going from being so blank everyone projected their own desired leader onto her, and she's now showing who she actually is, which is a medicore to sh!t parochial politician who's best moments have come from her saying SFA.

    People seem to like him, so I would say so.

    Incidentally, if the Lib Dems have any off switches, I would recommend turning off Nick Clegg.

    How come?

    Nick Clegg > Tim Farron

    Rightly or wrongly,

    Nick Clegg = irreparably damaged goods.
    You live and learn. At any rate, you live
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Ah.

    I'll grab my coat.
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  • mamba80
    mamba80 Posts: 5,032
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Is it really Jezza doing that well?

    Or is it just May going from being so blank everyone projected their own desired leader onto her, and she's now showing who she actually is, which is a medicore to sh!t parochial politician who's best moments have come from her saying SFA.

    People seem to like him, so I would say so.

    Incidentally, if the Lib Dems have any off switches, I would recommend turning off Nick Clegg.

    How come?

    Nick Clegg > Tim Farron

    If it werent for that tw@t Clegg, they d have been no tory gov for at least 5 out of the last 7 years and highly likely no Brexit either, that idiot has a lot to answer for and is the sole reason for the Lib/dems terrible showing.... so far!

    farron (or whoever, following on from Clegg was always going to be in an impossible situation.

    Great news Corbyn debating tonight, May will either go in unprepped or look like she is running scared. lets hope he has been doing his revision!
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Do we think he's been cleverly holding his cards close to his chest and been doing it all along?
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,873
    Unless my memory is shot, the Conservatives had the largest number of seats but were short of an overall majority. Lab + Lib Dems was also not enough for an overall majority. It was going to be Conservative minority government or the coalition. Are you saying you'd prefer the former?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Tories will win a majority.

    Me thinks this'll be the low point for the Tories.
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  • mamba80
    mamba80 Posts: 5,032
    rjsterry wrote:
    Unless my memory is shot, the Conservatives had the largest number of seats but were short of an overall majority. Lab + Lib Dems was also not enough for an overall majority. It was going to be Conservative minority government or the coalition. Are you saying you'd prefer the former?

    It is true Lib/Lab would have needed SNP support, as would the tories have needed the Dem Unionists (to get close to lib/lab) BUT history shows what the lib/Cons have achieved and i say that has and will prove to be very damaging to the UK.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,072
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Is it really Jezza doing that well?

    Or is it just May going from being so blank everyone projected their own desired leader onto her, and she's now showing who she actually is, which is a medicore to sh!t parochial politician who's best moments have come from her saying SFA.

    People seem to like him, so I would say so.

    Incidentally, if the Lib Dems have any off switches, I would recommend turning off Nick Clegg.

    How come?

    Nick Clegg > Tim Farron

    It's a bit like Blair, he needs to accept that he made mistakes and stop being a smug know it all (I can't think of a more eloquent description). His constant reminder that he was in government and was privy to its inner workings doesn't combine well with his complete lack of contrition - his party took a hammering, but his only explanation is that it was an unavoidable sacrifice to save the country. Saving the country included a referendum on the alternative vote (it may have been a better voting system, but it was perceived as an attempt to gain more seats, not save the country).

    I'm surprised I'm the first person to say this to you.

    I also think that the pro-remain stance will come back to bite. It comes across as a sore loser - something rarely popular in this country.

    Still, I could be wrong and the public might love Clegg and the remain stance.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,072
    Lynne Featherstone seemed quite popular, but Clegg bumped her up to the Lords which is a shame. She would be well place now if she was re-elected.
  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    BBC Election Debate. That's got to hurt Mays campaign not turning up, especially as she was the one who initiated the election.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,661
    The Chairing of this debate is woeful.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Pross wrote:
    The Chairing of this debate is woeful.

    It's intensely irritating.
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,072
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    The Chairing of this debate is woeful.

    It's intensely irritating.

    It can't be that hard to have only one person talking at one time. Teachers manage it with small kids.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,468
    The Tories must be regretting the decision to go negative and personal when it was unnecessary

    When Theresa May entered the Conservative leadership race in the post Brexit chaos it had the air of a grown up entering the room. Now....
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  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Rudd's father died on Monday. It's a strength that she could still attend. I've no idea what it says about May.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,873
    Hadn't realised that. Most of the commentators seem to think she did pretty well considering she had the disadvantages of being the only stand-in and part of the current government.

    Oh and the latest Times/YouGov poll, which presumably immediately predates the debate, puts Labour on 39 and the Tories on 42. Hmm.
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  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Time for the Tory party to realise it is in a fight. Labour have seen real upward momentum in the past couple of weeks, it could get seriously interesting if that continues for another week.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    rjsterry wrote:
    Hadn't realised that. Most of the commentators seem to think she did pretty well considering she had the disadvantages of being the only stand-in and part of the current government.

    Oh and the latest Times/YouGov poll, which presumably immediately predates the debate, puts Labour on 39 and the Tories on 42. Hmm.

    So on that...
    Apaz as part of that figure, YouGov have 62% of 18-24s voting and 67% of 50-64s voting.

    In 2015 the turnout was 44% and 70%.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,661
    Kingstonian wrote:
    Time for the Tory party to realise it is in a fight. Labour have seen real upward momentum in the past couple of weeks, it could get seriously interesting if that continues for another week.

    There's definitely complacency. After the early polls they seemed to assume all they had to do was turn up on the day and leave the others to put their feet in things. The only weapon they seem to have at the moment is 'we'll be stronger on Brexit', they seem to be over-estimating how important that is to many people who seem to be taking the view that it's going to happen so just get on with it (even the Brexit thread on here has calmed down!).
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,661
    TheBigBean wrote:
    bendertherobot wrote:
    Pross wrote:
    The Chairing of this debate is woeful.

    It's intensely irritating.

    It can't be that hard to have only one person talking at one time. Teachers manage it with small kids.

    Seemed a strange choice to go for a news reader over someone more experienced in chairing political debates for the one big TV debate. I only managed to watch 5 minutes, no-one managed to get to the end of an answer without being talked over.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Zinger of the night was Leanne Wood on Paul Nuttal after his 'no payments for EU divorce' chat.

    "We all know blokes like you.... In the real world, you have to pay your divorce dues.”
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