Zwift on iOS and Turbo Trainer

m4ttc
m4ttc Posts: 41
edited February 2017 in Indoor training and turbo forum
Hi
Bit of a technical question. Bought a Tacx Flow Smart at the weekend and connected it to my iPad to use Zwift. First impression is excellent.
Anyone know what I need and cost to display it on a larger TV to get the full effect?
Thanks

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  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    https://youtu.be/jbKp4lMBA3s
    And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon god they made.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Shane has the info, but you just need the Apple lightening to HDMI converter and an HDMI cable.

    Note that the iPad is 4:3 ratio so this is how it will display on the TV - with black bars down the sides.
  • m4ttc
    m4ttc Posts: 41
    Thanks fellas. Rapid responses. I wonder if I need the genuine Apple converter or would a 'replica' version would suffice.
    Thanks for the links. Very helpful
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    m4ttc wrote:
    Thanks fellas. Rapid responses. I wonder if I need the genuine Apple converter or would a 'replica' version would suffice.
    Thanks for the links. Very helpful

    I've seen some people posting that they work too, but I'd always be wondering if I was getting the full quality
  • m4ttc
    m4ttc Posts: 41
    Thanks again
  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    Replica cables may well be crap and cost you visual quality, spending the extra is IMO the best way forward
    And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon god they made.
  • mechanism
    mechanism Posts: 891
    Could you use Chromecast instead of a cable?
  • Dan Walton
    Dan Walton Posts: 147
    Mechanism wrote:
    Could you use Chromecast instead of a cable?

    I think you'd need Apple TV if you want it to play nice with an iPad.
  • m4ttc
    m4ttc Posts: 41
    Think The guy in the video is saying that even Apple TV does some lag and cable is the best way to go.
  • stevie63
    stevie63 Posts: 481
    Digital is Digital and therefore either works or it doesn't. In the same way that using a more expensive USB cable doesn't make your printer print better, using a more expensive adaptor does not make the picture quality better. However you may get reliability or compatibility issues with non approved adaptors but that is a different issue.
  • Vanmanmatt
    Vanmanmatt Posts: 8
    Chromecast would work perfectly
  • pinchez
    pinchez Posts: 76
    I bought a none genuine but well reviewed cable and while it did work I found the picture from the iPad to the TV very jerky while the iPad picture was silky smooth.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Vanmanmatt wrote:
    Chromecast would work perfectly

    As far as I know it won't work at all.
  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    Is it not possible select desktop in the browser and cast zwift, a full screen app
    And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon god they made.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    NeXXus wrote:
    Is it not possible select desktop in the browser and cast zwift, a full screen app

    Possibly, I thought the question was about iOS.
  • ryan_w-2
    ryan_w-2 Posts: 1,162
    HDMI or buy a £60 Apple TV and use screen mirroring.
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  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    markhewitt1978 wrote:
    NeXXus wrote:
    Is it not possible select desktop in the browser and cast zwift, a full screen app

    Possibly, I thought the question was about iOS.
    My bad :)
    And the people bowed and prayed, to the neon god they made.
  • mechanism
    mechanism Posts: 891
    markhewitt1978 wrote:
    NeXXus wrote:
    Is it not possible select desktop in the browser and cast zwift, a full screen app

    Possibly, I thought the question was about iOS.

    You can cast the whole screen (i.e. whatever is running) in Android. I thought it might be the same in iOS.
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Mechanism wrote:
    markhewitt1978 wrote:
    NeXXus wrote:
    Is it not possible select desktop in the browser and cast zwift, a full screen app

    Possibly, I thought the question was about iOS.

    You can cast the whole screen (i.e. whatever is running) in Android. I thought it might be the same in iOS.

    Unfortunately not. They want you to use Apple TV. Although you can use the PC app Lonely Screen to show airplay from iOS devices.
  • markp80
    markp80 Posts: 444
    stevie63 wrote:
    Digital is Digital and therefore either works or it doesn't. In the same way that using a more expensive USB cable doesn't make your printer print better, using a more expensive adaptor does not make the picture quality better. However you may get reliability or compatibility issues with non approved adaptors but that is a different issue.
    Yes, digital is digital, but that's not what the Lightning-to-HDMI cable does, there's a lot more to it than that.
    The iPad doesn't output a raw HDMI signal, it outputs H.264 video. To fix this, the cable has a box in it, which includes an ARM processor which decodes the video signal on the fly, suitable for an HDMI TV input. The quality of the decoding done by the processor/software dictates the quality of what you see on the screen, which is where you introduce a lot of visible artefacts. Buy a non-Apple cable and you don't know the quality of the processor/algorithm doing the decoding. Not that the processor software in Apple's own cable hasn't actually come in for some criticism in the past :D

    Cheers,
    MarkP
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