Big Bad Business vs Plucky Little Guy?

First.Aspect
First.Aspect Posts: 17,212
edited January 2017 in Road general
Since I'm not on Facetube or anything, I can't comment on this without a forum thread:

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... qus_thread

What does the hive mind think - big business screwing the little guy? Or is the little guy actually Eric Cartman?

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  • Hinaultscrapcousin
    Hinaultscrapcousin Posts: 647
    Pretty sure the Lightspeed Archon C3 had a slight concave downtube to get the bottle cage lower and tighter to the frame. It hardly seems very innovative, hence the design patent.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,212
    Hinaultscrapcousin wrote:
    Pretty sure the Lightspeed Archon C3 had a slight concave downtube to get the bottle cage lower and tighter to the frame. It hardly seems very innovative, hence the design patent.
    Its not a design patent, believe it or not.
  • sloppyschleckonds
    sloppyschleckonds Posts: 8,019
    First Aspect wrote:
    Since I'm not on Facetube or anything,
    Or is the little guy actually Eric Cartman?

    Who?
    I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles
  • fat daddy
    fat daddy Posts: 2,605
    I never thought I would see a Chinese company complaining that someone was in breach of their patents
  • Hinaultscrapcousin
    Hinaultscrapcousin Posts: 647
    First Aspect wrote:
    Hinaultscrapcousin wrote:
    Pretty sure the Lightspeed Archon C3 had a slight concave downtube to get the bottle cage lower and tighter to the frame. It hardly seems very innovative, hence the design patent.
    Its not a design patent, believe it or not.

    Really?! That's... err... Ok.

    As far as I know Taiwan aren't signatories to PCT are they? So basically, unless he's filed an international patent elsewhere he's shit out of luck I think.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,212
    Hinaultscrapcousin wrote:
    First Aspect wrote:
    Hinaultscrapcousin wrote:
    Pretty sure the Lightspeed Archon C3 had a slight concave downtube to get the bottle cage lower and tighter to the frame. It hardly seems very innovative, hence the design patent.
    Its not a design patent, believe it or not.

    Really?! That's... err... Ok.

    As far as I know Taiwan aren't signatories to PCT are they? So basically, unless he's filed an international patent elsewhere he's shoot out of luck I think.
    There appear to be pending applications in China and Korea. Not sure what stage these two are at.

    Besides, don't Pinarello manufacture and sell in Taiwan?
  • Hinaultscrapcousin
    Hinaultscrapcousin Posts: 647
    First Aspect wrote:
    Hinaultscrapcousin wrote:
    First Aspect wrote:
    Hinaultscrapcousin wrote:
    Pretty sure the Lightspeed Archon C3 had a slight concave downtube to get the bottle cage lower and tighter to the frame. It hardly seems very innovative, hence the design patent.
    Its not a design patent, believe it or not.

    Really?! That's... err... Ok.

    As far as I know Taiwan aren't signatories to PCT are they? So basically, unless he's filed an international patent elsewhere he's shoot out of luck I think.
    There appear to be pending applications in China and Korea. Not sure what stage these two are at.

    Besides, don't Pinarello manufacture and sell in Taiwan?

    I didn't think the manufacturing location mattered. I thought it was just the sales location. As such they could block sales where they have the patent but not elsewhere.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,212
    No, manufacture, use, offering for sale, sale and importation are probably infringing acts. In principle.
  • Hinaultscrapcousin
    Hinaultscrapcousin Posts: 647
    First Aspect wrote:
    No, manufacture, use, offering for sale, sale and importation are probably infringing acts. In principle.

    Fair enough, thanks for the clarification.

    Pinarello have responded, pretty much accusing Velocité of patent trolling:

    http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... nts-48961/


    Time to sit back and watch the school-yard type lawyer antics unfold...
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,212
    Hinaultscrapcousin wrote:
    First Aspect wrote:
    No, manufacture, use, offering for sale, sale and importation are probably infringing acts. In principle.

    Fair enough, thanks for the clarification.

    Pinarello have responded, pretty much accusing Velocité of patent trolling:

    http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... nts-48961/


    Time to sit back and watch the school-yard type lawyer antics unfold...
    Well that's what I was expecting to unleash....

    ... its all getting a bit undignified isn't it?

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