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rick_chasey
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So I was thinking that Sagan probably isn't getting enough credit on the forum for his season.
I was reminiscing about Boonen's 2005 (as you do), with a Flanders Roubaix double, stage wins in the Tour and the World Champs, and realised Sagan's season was probably even better.
So I decided to look it up on CQ, and that got me thinking....
If we assuming the numbers CQ assign to riders as comparable between years....
2016: SAGAN Peter 3307
2015: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 2976
2014: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 3152
2013: NIBALI Vincenzo 2793
2012: RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim 3118
2011: GILBERT Philippe 3180
2010: NIBALI Vincenzo 2204
2009: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 2494
2008: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 2662
2007: EVANS Cadel 1979
2006: BOONEN Tom 2559
2005: BOONEN Tom 2073
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Or if you want them in order of score:
2016: SAGAN Peter 3307
2011: GILBERT Philippe 3180
2014: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 3152
2012: RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim 3118
2015: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 2976
2013: NIBALI Vincenzo 2793
2008: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 2662
2006: BOONEN Tom 2559
2009: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 2494
2010: NIBALI Vincenzo 2204
2005: BOONEN Tom 2073
2007: EVANS Cadel 1979
I was reminiscing about Boonen's 2005 (as you do), with a Flanders Roubaix double, stage wins in the Tour and the World Champs, and realised Sagan's season was probably even better.
So I decided to look it up on CQ, and that got me thinking....
If we assuming the numbers CQ assign to riders as comparable between years....
2016: SAGAN Peter 3307
2015: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 2976
2014: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 3152
2013: NIBALI Vincenzo 2793
2012: RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim 3118
2011: GILBERT Philippe 3180
2010: NIBALI Vincenzo 2204
2009: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 2494
2008: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 2662
2007: EVANS Cadel 1979
2006: BOONEN Tom 2559
2005: BOONEN Tom 2073
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Or if you want them in order of score:
2016: SAGAN Peter 3307
2011: GILBERT Philippe 3180
2014: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 3152
2012: RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquim 3118
2015: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 2976
2013: NIBALI Vincenzo 2793
2008: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 2662
2006: BOONEN Tom 2559
2009: VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro 2494
2010: NIBALI Vincenzo 2204
2005: BOONEN Tom 2073
2007: EVANS Cadel 1979
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Yep, Sagan's not getting the praise due. Those numbers tell the story of an amazing season. He's the absolute bo11ocks.It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0
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Career achievement for the man from Belmonte pretty impressive
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An alternative way of looking at it is points per race day. A domination rating if you like.
(Minimum of 50 race days, stats only go back to 2007, although Boonen '05,'06 is estimated low 30s)
47.14 Wiggins 2012
46.10 Froome 2013
45.17 Sagan 2016
42.97 Gilbert 2011
42.07 Contador 2009
41.03 Rodriguez 2012
40.94 Valverde 2014
39.12 Contador 2014
37.67 Di Luca 2007
37.06 Contador 2008
Other year leaders 2015 - Froome 33.44, 2010 S.Sanchez 27.21)Twitter: @RichN950 -
Though I am sceptical they are comparable between years, because, in my mind anyway, Boonen's 2005 was significantly better than his 2006...0
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This is always my go to reference for this kind of thing.
Has Gilbert 11 better than Sagan 16
http://www.procyclingstats.com/statistics.php?c=1&stat_id=530 -
TakeTheHighRoad wrote:This is always my go to reference for this kind of thing.
Has Gilbert 11 better than Sagan 16
http://www.procyclingstats.com/statistics.php?c=1&stat_id=53
If it's putting Sagan's 2016 above Roche's 1987 it's broken“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Isn't this thing weighted more towards later years as the World Tour expands.
Sagan will scoop points for that California trash etc.
And yes, if Roche's 87 is behind Sagan's 16 the the algorithm is wrong!It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
Timoid. wrote:Isn't this thing weighted more towards later years as the World Tour expands.
Sagan will scoop points for that California trash etc.
And yes, if Roche's 87 is behind Sagan's 16 the the algorithm is wrong!Twitter: @RichN950