TJ Sport/Lampre

flasher

http://www.velonews.com/2016/12/news/tj ... ure_425854

dish_dash

Shame... hope something comes together and the riders and staff aren't left high and dry.

Interesting point that this is basically a China state team:

TJ Sport is an investment group created by China’s sports ministry to promote cycling at home

So trust we'll bring the human rights pitch forks out for these guys as well, given that China's HR record is atrocious.

rick_chasey

Team Crush political dissidents.

Rodrego Hernandez

Seems to happen far too regularly in cycling. People see $$ signs and forget the basics of due diligence. Hopefully this won't be the case but it doesn't look good.

Considering cycling is apparently 'the new golf' and is going through a boom, there are an awful lot of financial problems. The UK especially seems to have been hit with teams and races falling by the wayside and 'pro' riders riding for free.

jimmythecuckoo

Plenty of historical evidence that concerns you about this one.

Richmond Racer 2

dish_dash wrote:

Shame... hope something comes together and the riders and staff aren't left high and dry.

Interesting point that this is basically a China state team:

TJ Sport is an investment group created by China’s sports ministry to promote cycling at home

So trust we'll bring the human rights pitch forks out for these guys as well, given that China's HR record is atrocious.

You called, Captain Peacock? I'm free...

Richmond Racer 2

Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

Seems to happen far too regularly in cycling. People see $$ signs and forget the basics of due diligence. Hopefully this won't be the case but it doesn't look good.

Considering cycling is apparently 'the new golf' and is going through a boom, there are an awful lot of financial problems. The UK especially seems to have been hit with teams and races falling by the wayside and 'pro' riders riding for free.

Paying even selective UK domestic riders £40-50k wasnt sustainable (NFTO, I'm looking at you...)

Richmond Racer 2

Back to TJ Sport...so Pegasus - the remake?

Rodrego Hernandez

Richmond Racer 2 wrote:

Back to TJ Sport...so Pegasus - the remake?

And Pegasus was the latest Sony Ericsson..... and so on....

Richmond Racer 2

Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

Richmond Racer 2 wrote:

Back to TJ Sport...so Pegasus - the remake?

And Pegasus was the latest Sony Ericsson..... and so on....

yeah, this story is old, fer shure

timoid.

Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

Richmond Racer 2 wrote:

Back to TJ Sport...so Pegasus - the remake?

And Pegasus was the latest Sony Ericsson..... and so on....

Except Sony Ericsson was an impostor pretending to be part of the company.

Richmond Racer 2

Also cf Julian Clark pretending Jaguar were sponsoring the Linda McCartney team, and Jacob's Creek were signed up for more than just the TDU...

dish_dash

Richmond Racer 2 wrote:

dish_dash wrote:

Shame... hope something comes together and the riders and staff aren't left high and dry.

Interesting point that this is basically a China state team:

TJ Sport is an investment group created by China’s sports ministry to promote cycling at home

So trust we'll bring the human rights pitch forks out for these guys as well, given that China's HR record is atrocious.

You called, Captain Peacock? I'm free...

Sorry, my head hurts this morning and I have no idea what this means...

RichN95.

dish_dash wrote:

Shame... hope something comes together and the riders and staff aren't left high and dry.

Interesting point that this is basically a China state team:

TJ Sport is an investment group created by China’s sports ministry to promote cycling at home

So trust we'll bring the human rights pitch forks out for these guys as well, given that China's HR record is atrocious.

While it is far from an ideal situation, don't the Bahrain complaints go beyond the country itself in that it's the specific person backing the team that is linked to torture.

salsiccia1

RichN95 wrote:

dish_dash wrote:

Shame... hope something comes together and the riders and staff aren't left high and dry.

Interesting point that this is basically a China state team:

TJ Sport is an investment group created by China’s sports ministry to promote cycling at home

So trust we'll bring the human rights pitch forks out for these guys as well, given that China's HR record is atrocious.

While it is far from and ideal situation, don't the Bahrain complaints go beyond the country itself in that it's the specific person backing the team that is linked to torture.

I think this is the crux of it for me. Promoting cycling at home, even if home has lots of human rights issues is a lot different to sportswashing by an individual that is actively involved in repression, IMO.

dish_dash

Salsiccia1 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

dish_dash wrote:

Shame... hope something comes together and the riders and staff aren't left high and dry.

Interesting point that this is basically a China state team:

TJ Sport is an investment group created by China’s sports ministry to promote cycling at home

So trust we'll bring the human rights pitch forks out for these guys as well, given that China's HR record is atrocious.

While it is far from and ideal situation, don't the Bahrain complaints go beyond the country itself in that it's the specific person backing the team that is linked to torture.

I think this is the crux of it for me. Promoting cycling at home, even if home has lots of human rights issues is a lot different to sportswashing by an individual that is actively involved in repression, IMO.

Why? Human rights oppression is human rights oppression. The Chinese state has killed multiple people and continues to suppress human rights...

I don't get the sportwash allegation. If anything the Bahrain team sponsorship has brought more attention to the human rights situation in the country and allegations against Nasser bin Hamad Al Khalifa, non?

rick_chasey

This reminds me of that recent chat a republican running for secretary of state had with a journalist.





Totally OT but anyway.

RichN95.

Apparently a TJ Sports person has been interviewed by Chinese media. Says they will drop down to Pro Conti, Meintjes will go to Dimension, Costa to Katusha

flasher

I wonder what will happen to Ben Swift....

twotoebenny

Also Ulissi and Conti?

m.r.m.

Flasher wrote:

I wonder what will happen to Ben Swift....

He'll come third in races on some other team. :P

jimmythecuckoo

Wow. That unravelled quickly.

dish_dash

UAE sponsors apparently stepping into the breach and look to be giving the team enough dosh to keep them in the WT. With 8-9m euros they'll be the poorest there according to CN.

Richmond Racer 2

dish_dash wrote:

UAE sponsors apparently stepping into the breach and look to be giving the team enough dosh to keep them in the WT. With 8-9m euros they'll be the poorest there according to CN.

'pourest' if the source is CN

jimmythecuckoo

Aliexpress

Or did I dream that.

andyp

News just released that the team has been renamed UAE Abu Dhabi and granted a WT license.

dish_dash

Catchy name... glad that the riders and team still have jobs.

Chinese promises ain't all they are stacked up to be eh? At least in the Abu Dhabi most of the leadership went to Sandhurst...

joelsim

dish_dash wrote:

Catchy name... glad that the riders and team still have jobs.

Chinese promises ain't all they are stacked up to be eh? At least in the Abu Dhabi most of the leadership went to Sandhurst...

Chapeau.

dish_dash

Now that this team has turned into UAE-Abu Dabhi can we take a moment to register that Lampre are now gone from the pro-peloton. They'd been there since 1990, livening up the peloton with their pink and blue colours...

rick_chasey

Missed probably their biggest win. (apart from the Simoni Giro, obvs)



(question, which perennial loser did Ballan beat in the 2 up sprint?)

dish_dash

yeah, true, I was distracted by their Liege win...