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Cycling back pain SPECIALIST??

mrbenjmrbenj Posts: 42
Can anyone recommend a specialist/expert in cycling related back pain?

I’m not talking about your local physio who gave you some exercises to do nor do I want another bike fit. I’ve seen several physios, chiropractors etc and haven’t made much progress.

My pain is completely cycling related, consistent and yet no-one seems to be able to help with it. Kind of at my wits end and so want to see someone who is able to deal with unusual problems or things that are less obvious.

Any help appreciated.

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  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 10,150
    Yes! Jo Mcrae.

    Someone on here (Mike someone) recommended her, and she gave me my life back.

    I had had chronic back pain for around 7 years, and had tried:

    Doctor
    Physio
    Massage
    Pilates
    Alexander technique
    Chiro
    Osteopath
    Tamars

    She was pretty much my last throw of the dice, just wished I had found her before all of the above!

    If you want more detailed info, pm me.

    I dropped her an e-mail with my full history, as I wanted to find out if she thought she could help me.

    I've also recommended her to a mate at work, and he had similar results.

    http://jomcrae.co.uk/
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • kingrollokingrollo Posts: 3,162
    Dr Leon Creaney

    Sports injury consultant (don't confuse with a physio) this guy is an actual doctor who specialises in sports injury.


    Don't expect quick fix with my next suggestion - but yoga - once a week has cut my injuries to close to zero...

    I had many years back pain - I don't profess to be a doctor - but do you want to supply any more details...?

    triggers\duration\age etc
  • reacherreacher Posts: 416
    Daniel B wrote:
    Yes! Jo Mcrae.

    Someone on here (Mike someone) recommended her, and she gave me my life back.

    I had had chronic back pain for around 7 years, and had tried:

    Doctor
    Physio
    Massage
    Pilates
    Alexander technique
    Chiro
    Osteopath
    Tamars

    She was pretty much my last throw of the dice, just wished I had found her before all of the above!

    If you want more detailed info, pm me.

    I dropped her an e-mail with my full history, as I wanted to find out if she thought she could help me.

    I've also recommended her to a mate at work, and he had similar results.

    http://jomcrae.co.uk/



    As a long term back problem suffererer myself out of interest what did she do that the Chiro Osteo did not try/do
  • mrbenjmrbenj Posts: 42
    Thanks Daniel - very helpful, I've messaged you.
  • mrbenjmrbenj Posts: 42
    Thanks kingrollo, also very helpful.

    I appreciate your enquiry, the only reason I haven't shared the exact details of my problem is that I'm not really interested in hearing the various combinations of stretching/strengthening/pilates/yoga/orthotics/bikefits/physio/osteopaths/massage/chiropractors that people have found useful as I need someone with very specific knowledge who can work out what is going on.
  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 10,150
    reacher wrote:
    Daniel B wrote:
    Yes! Jo Mcrae.

    Someone on here (Mike someone) recommended her, and she gave me my life back.

    I had had chronic back pain for around 7 years, and had tried:

    Doctor
    Physio
    Massage
    Pilates
    Alexander technique
    Chiro
    Osteopath
    Tamars

    She was pretty much my last throw of the dice, just wished I had found her before all of the above!

    If you want more detailed info, pm me.

    I dropped her an e-mail with my full history, as I wanted to find out if she thought she could help me.

    I've also recommended her to a mate at work, and he had similar results.

    http://jomcrae.co.uk/



    As a long term back problem suffererer myself out of interest what did she do that the Chiro Osteo did not try/do

    Hi Reacher (Jack?), the Chiro identified a herniated disc, which I believe to be correct, but he didn't, or wasn't able to identify the work my body had done to protect me from that pain for so long - to cut a long story short, my torso was out of alignment on top of my legs, and one side of my lower back muscle was in constant spasm.
    Jo took a load of measurements, and gave me some mobilisation, and strengthening exercises (Combined with e-mail and phone support), which transpired in me seeing an initial improvement in only a week - not saying that would happen for all, but just giving my own personal experience.
    I expect to get to as good a position as I did, probably took around 3 months, and the first 6 weeks it was 20-30 minutes of exercise every day, but you do NEED to commit fully to it, which I did, as I wanted it to be fixed.
    I have written a horrendously long pm to Ben, can send it to you as well if you are interested, it goes into more detail.
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 10,150
    I have just spent a painful 20 minutes searching the forum to try and find the person who recommended her initially, and he is mikenetic - drop him a pm if you want a second opinion.
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • reacherreacher Posts: 416
    edited November 2016
    Daniel B wrote:
    reacher wrote:
    Daniel B wrote:
    Yes! Jo Mcrae.

    Someone on here (Mike someone) recommended her, and she gave me my life back.

    I had had chronic back pain for around 7 years, and had tried:

    Doctor
    Physio
    Massage
    Pilates
    Alexander technique
    Chiro
    Osteopath
    Tamars

    She was pretty much my last throw of the dice, just wished I had found her before all of the above!

    If you want more detailed info, pm me.

    I dropped her an e-mail with my full history, as I wanted to find out if she thought she could help me.

    I've also recommended her to a mate at work, and he had similar results.

    http://jomcrae.co.uk/



    As a long term back problem suffererer myself out of interest what did she do that the Chiro Osteo did not try/do

    Hi Reacher (Jack?), the Chiro identified a herniated disc, which I believe to be correct, but he didn't, or wasn't able to identify the work my body had done to protect me from that pain for so long - to cut a long story short, my torso was out of alignment on top of my legs, and one side of my lower back muscle was in constant spasm.
    Jo took a load of measurements, and gave me some mobilisation, and strengthening exercises (Combined with e-mail and phone support), which transpired in me seeing an initial improvement in only a week - not saying that would happen for all, but just giving my own personal experience.
    I expect to get to as good a position as I did, probably took around 3 months, and the first 6 weeks it was 20-30 minutes of exercise every day, but you do NEED to commit fully to it, which I did, as I wanted it to be fixed.
    I have written a horrendously long pm to Ben, can send it to you as well if you are interested, it goes into more detail.

    No but thanks for offering i had this problem many years ago and i managed to eventually get on top of mine but it was a long road to recovery, good luck
  • kingrollokingrollo Posts: 3,162
    Mrben - I feel your pain - I feel your frustration - I've been there. I was out 3 years with an injury - no one wanted to know - I had every scan imaginable - all showed up nothing.

    Finally I got to see Dr Creaney - he reviewed the scans - agreed they showed nothing. But then made a decision based on what I was telling him and my symptoms. He wrote to my GP and really laid it on the line 'Despite this not showing in imaging I am convinced this is XXXXX' He got my respect for that.

    [High Hamstring tendinopathy was my diagnosis]

    He did forewarn that to get better wouldn't be achieved with a simple stretching regime - basically he said you need to did these exercises 3 times a week, keep upping the reps, keep upping the weights - he also forewarned I might see any results for a year - actually it took 18 months !

    My message here isn't to hit the gym and lift 120k ! - My message is not to give up - but (perhaps) don't expect a quick fix. In my experience the exercise I was given early on were correct - they just weren't aggressive enough - and timescales for recovery were ridiculously optimistic.

    Another thing if you're really down in the dumps - what about a recumbent bike ? - don't be fooled by the image some recumbent bikes are now very racy - I brought one - It was at least some cycling I could do - and although I never replicated my road bike miles on recumbent - going down hill on one of those is serious fun - I suffer a bit from depression anyway - riding one those 'things' lifted the gloom - great fun. At least it would get you pedalling - it doesn't stop you looking for a fix to your on going problems - and I sold mine 2 years later for pretty much what I paid for it [sometimes I regret selling it - but the mrs hated it!!!]
  • diydiy Posts: 6,473
    As another person recovering from a herniated disc (slipped disc) Exercise and stretching is key. But you do need an MRI to see if there is any related issues. Sometimes there are additional articulations or outriggers on the bone which cause stress.

    My specialist told me that getting back to my normal training routine including heavy weights would probably help. My osteo has given me some good therapy including home work.

    I'm about 12-14 weeks on from my injury and this week, I've just re-introduce heavier weight deadlift and standing shoulder press in to my routine. You have to stretch loads and warm up loads, but its muscles that will help it repair quickly.
  • kingrollokingrollo Posts: 3,162
    Any updates from the OP ?
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