Oleg offloads both barrels

Dorset_Boy
Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,611
edited January 2017 in Pro race
Frenchie is currently investigating hiring a hitman:

https://www.aol.co.uk/sport/2016/10/04/tinkov-lambasts-contador-after-cycling-farewell/
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  • cruff
    cruff Posts: 1,518
    Tinkov in 'being a classless prick' shocker
    Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Oleg Tinkoff: never knowingly classy.

    We'll miss the money, but precious little else.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    Wow! That is some parting shot.
  • the article don
    the article don Posts: 578
    Goodbye to cycling you absolute throbber
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,719
    Sorry but :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    He's not wrong in some respects. But yes, classless.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    The people who are wishing him good riddance really don't understand sport as entertainment.
    _
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    He's a dick but he does speak some truths

    If cycling fans could furnish an agreed list of team owners deemed acceptable, pls do so

    My guess is the criteria = unseen and unheard
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    He's a dick but he does speak some truths

    But even when he's speaking the truths, he's a complete tool about it, which sort of undermines things a bit
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,042
    ddraver wrote:
    Sorry but :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    +1 :lol:
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,576
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    He's a dick but he does speak some truths

    Does he? Name two.

    He's a sexist, racist dinosaur. Good riddance.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    He's a dick but he does speak some truths

    But even when he's speaking the truths, he's a complete tool about it, which sort of undermines things a bit

    Just how would one go about expressing dislike for and dissatisfaction with a rider who has so many ardent fans as Contador, without coming across as a tool, I wonder?
    He's take a shed load of flak for having the temerity to confirm the state of his relationship with his longtime leader.
    The truth, in this instance, was always going to hurt, especially in a certain quarter.
    Of course, much of the abuse now heading his way comes from Contador's fan base. (not saying that applies to anyone here)
    Ironic and completely hypocritical, coming from that faction, given how after the 2014 season finale, they lauded his ludicrous proposal for the 3GT challenge.

    More of a dick then than now, but a dick nevertheless.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    Daniel B wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Sorry but :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    +1 :lol:


    What what hey hey

    Double trolltastic
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    He's a dick but he does speak some truths

    But even when he's speaking the truths, he's a complete tool about it, which sort of undermines things a bit

    Just how would one go about expressing dislike for and dissatisfaction with a rider who has so many ardent fans as Contador, without coming across as a tool, I wonder?
    He's take a shed load of flak for having the temerity to confirm the state of his relationship with his longtime leader.
    The truth, in this instance, was always going to hurt, especially in a certain quarter.

    He could say:
    "Our relationship hasn't been very good, and we disagree on a lot of things. I think he is past his best, and can't see him winning another GT. But all the best to him."

    Instead we got:
    "...as a person he’s never really appealed to me. I don’t like him. Even in the team, most of the riders don’t like him. He ended up having a bad relation with almost everyone, apart from his little Spanish group.

    I think Trek manager Luca Guercilena has to be careful. He signed them as a group but I think this group will create a lot of mess at Trek. I want to warn Guercilena about that. It was difficult for anyone to do that to me because I’m strong and have big balls but I’m sure they’ll do a mess at Trek.

    ...I think he’s going to be like a limping duck. He’s going to look stupid. At the Vuelta he was dropped by the best four or five riders, next year it will be by the best 20 riders. I don’t think he’s ever going to win another Grand Tour. He should forget about it and quit.

    ...Contador won’t be at the farewell party because I told him: you’re sick, stay at home, you can’t bring a virus to the party and make the other guys sick before the World Championships. I think the party will be better without him anyway because he’s a sad person."

    Complete knobbery and completely unclassy.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Richmond Racer 2 wrote:
    He's a dick but he does speak some truths

    But even when he's speaking the truths, he's a complete tool about it, which sort of undermines things a bit

    Seems to be a cultural thing. Just a few decades behind.
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    He's right re some of his fire directed at the UCI (in this and other interviews). They well and truly fooked up over their handling of 1. announcing WT team reduction from 18 to 17 teams next year halfway through this year, and 2. the WT expansion and discussions with the teams
  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,798
    I wont be sad to see Oleg disappear, but that interview was pretty funny! :lol:
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  • hanshotfirst
    hanshotfirst Posts: 403
    This just goes to show that even with all the money he has, Oleg is bitter that he couldn't buy himself a Tour De France win.

    A prick.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    CarbonClem wrote:
    I wont be sad to see Oleg disappear, but that interview was pretty funny! :lol:

    This, pretty much.
    At least Oleg is being transparent and gives us a bit on insight.
    His prose has never been and never will be, winning any prizes for literature.
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    He could say:
    "Our relationship hasn't been very good, and we disagree on a lot of things. I think he is past his best, and can't see him winning another GT. But all the best to him."

    That's like the standard Brailsford speak for which Sir Dave gets loads of criticism.
    PC words that say next to nothing.
    Holding Oleg Tinkoff up to that level of diplomacy is like expecting Anjem Choudary to start preaching World peace.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,719
    Feeling some hypocrisy here...it's fine for us to slag off riders but not Oleg?

    hmmm, what's the Russaian for "black kettle"?
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    ddraver wrote:
    Feeling some hypocrisy here...it's fine for us to slag off riders but not Oleg?

    hmmm, what's the Russaian for "black kettle"?

    Most of us on here, I presume, are not team owners with a large profile within the sport. If we were, we might choose our words more carefully.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    ddraver wrote:
    Feeling some hypocrisy here...it's fine for us to slag off riders but not Oleg?

    hmmm, what's the Russaian for "black kettle"?

    Slag 'em off all you want.

    Doesn't mean I think you're right about it.
    _
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,719
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    Feeling some hypocrisy here...it's fine for us to slag off riders but not Oleg?

    hmmm, what's the Russaian for "black kettle"?

    Slag 'em off all you want.

    Doesn't mean I think you're right about it.

    That's fair enough. but few of the posts above say "I disagree with Oleg because..." They all just say "prick"
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    I see a guy who supported an A list team and played a good baddie.

    What more do you want?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Could do with a few more sports stars who speak their mind, however refined / unrefined.
    _
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,719
    I'm on your side really...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    ddraver wrote:
    I'm on your side really...

    Stop arguing, it's not a UKIP meeting you know.
  • Richmond Racer 2
    Richmond Racer 2 Posts: 4,698
    Joelsim wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    I'm on your side really...

    Stop arguing, it's not a UKIP meeting you know.



    Fiiiiiiight
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    It took me ages to write that for Oleg and then some of you complain. Hmmmph.

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