Will Froome leave Sky
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Maglia Rosa wrote:Pross wrote:Does 31 count as mid 30s?
Its not the zero or the 9 so technically yes. I meant to say he is already in his 30s as mentioned by end if contract he will be 33. He may still be competitive. Chris Horner win the Vuelta touching 42 so its not impossible. It depends on when he wants to bow out.
By 33 34 Sky may have someone else pushing hard to be team leader. He won't drop down the pecking. He would sooner leave. They have plentyof riders who can lead a Grand Tour team and eventually one is going to surpass Froome on the performance level to lead the team. Then is when he will probably go.
If Froome does a Horner the internet would probably explode. Imagine what would happen to the Clinic!!
I'd love to see a proper Giro-Vuelta challenge from him. I'd also love to see him target some of the one days - Sky have been a little less metronomic this year so I think he could maybe have a passable stab at it.0 -
bobmcstuff wrote:Maglia Rosa wrote:Pross wrote:Does 31 count as mid 30s?
Its not the zero or the 9 so technically yes. I meant to say he is already in his 30s as mentioned by end if contract he will be 33. He may still be competitive. Chris Horner win the Vuelta touching 42 so its not impossible. It depends on when he wants to bow out.
By 33 34 Sky may have someone else pushing hard to be team leader. He won't drop down the pecking. He would sooner leave. They have plentyof riders who can lead a Grand Tour team and eventually one is going to surpass Froome on the performance level to lead the team. Then is when he will probably go.
If Froome does a Horner the internet would probably explode. Imagine what would happen to the Clinic!!
I'd love to see a proper Giro-Vuelta challenge from him. I'd also love to see him target some of the one days - Sky have been a little less metronomic this year so I think he could maybe have a passable stab at it.
I'd love to see him go on for years. I think he could go on to be one of the true greats. He has achieved a hell of a feat winning the tour 3 times already but seeing him win classics would put him right up there with the very best ( less Eddie of course) but the way the season runs these days there are more specialist riders for nearly everything. Sprinters. Climbers. GC . TTrs. One day riders. Only Sagan seems to be good at everything if not particularly brilliant in one area.0 -
Have to disagree that Sagan is not particularly brilliant in any one area, sorry...0
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Newsflash:
Froome is fishing... is he also fishing for a new contract?
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bobmcstuff wrote:Have to disagree that Sagan is not particularly brilliant in any one area, sorry...
Perhaps brilliant is the wrong word but he is not the best climber but can hold his own. He is not the best sprinter but is always there or thereabouts. Same goes for every other discipline. He is not the very very best in any particular way. He is just very good at everything. Classics can be won by anyone on their day and he is not a great TTer at all probably his biggest weakness.0 -
Best puncheur of his generation.Maglia Rosa wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:Have to disagree that Sagan is not particularly brilliant in any one area, sorry...
Perhaps brilliant is the wrong word but he is not the best climber but can hold his own. He is not the best sprinter but is always there or thereabouts. Same goes for every other discipline. He is not the very very best in any particular way. He is just very good at everything. Classics can be won by anyone on their day and he is not a great TTer at all probably his biggest weakness.0 -
bobmcstuff wrote:
Best puncheur of his generation.Maglia Rosa wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:Have to disagree that Sagan is not particularly brilliant in any one area, sorry...
Perhaps brilliant is the wrong word but he is not the best climber but can hold his own. He is not the best sprinter but is always there or thereabouts. Same goes for every other discipline. He is not the very very best in any particular way. He is just very good at everything. Classics can be won by anyone on their day and he is not a great TTer at all probably his biggest weakness.
Not Gibert or Cancellara then? He has to go a long way to achieve what they have. He will do no doubt but not yet. He is by far the best who will be riding in 3 or 4 years time but as both Gilbert and Cancellara and Maybe Tom Boonen are still currently riding they have proved it more0 -
Gilbert and Cancellara are both on the way out, previous generation (Cancellara especially). Sagan is by far the best rider of that type currently riding.0
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Gilbert and Cancellera not that similar are they ?[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Not in my mind either, but I guess they're both classics riders.DeVlaeminck wrote:Gilbert and Cancellera not that similar are they ?0 -
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Rick Chasey wrote:In 30 years time cycling fans will remember Sagan more than Froome.
At least; this one will.
Think it depends how many GTs Froome manages to amass. If he got 5 TDFs and a Vuelta or two? (assuming he's not going to go for the Giro much as I'd like it).
Then again if Sagan ticks off the other monuments and gets the rainbows a few more times (who'd bet against another Worlds for Sagan?)...
Sagan's more exciting to watch for sure.0 -
I don't pass my time reminiscing about Indurain wins but I do watch old Lemond and Bettini videos so it's not all about the palmares.0
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Rick Chasey wrote:I don't pass my time reminiscing about Indurain wins but I do watch old Lemond and Bettini videos so it's not all about the palmares.
No, I know - like I said, Sagan is better to watch, normally.
Which is one reason why it would be interesting to see Froome somewhere other than Sky where he might have to be a bit more attacking without such a strong team. He can be quite aggressive so it would be good to see that properly (but like everyone says, probably not likely).0 -
Meh.
Froome wants to win stage races and he'll always tilt at the Tour, health pending. He'll always be in a strong team and he'll always strangle his competitors just like Lance did (tactically - not making doping accusations).
Only difference is Froome likes to race to win more often and likes the Vuelta to set up for next year so he's got a reasonable stab at a tour + other GT double.
He's more interesting in the Vuelta because his team can't be what it is in the Tour.
That he's the only rider since the bad old days who has a realistic shout at a Tour + other GT shows how strong he (and sky) are.
Nature of stage racing makes that boring. Depending on how you do it in one day races, that advantage can make you more exciting.0 -
RichN95 wrote:Yeah, he'll go a small team. And Lionel Messi will sign for Crystal Palace and Tom Cruise will join Eastenders.0 -
bobmcstuff wrote:
Sagan's more exciting to watch for sure.
This is only true if, like Rick, you can't stand Froome.
Otherwise, since his duels with Cobo in 2011 Vuelta, Froome has delivered some of the most talked about moments in cycling. And this season, he upped it even more (attacking and dropping his rivals on descents, etc). Besides, Sagan generally only does his crowd pleasing one-handed wheelies when he's off the back; Froome now gets off and runs for a bit on key mountain stages to allow others to catch up...0 -
Froome already is a legend, he's won 3 Tours.
I reckon he may win one more. I can't see him winning two more, too many good young riders coming through.0 -
OCDuPalais wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:
Sagan's more exciting to watch for sure.
This is only true if, like Rick, you can't stand Froome.
Otherwise, since his duels with Cobo in 2011 Vuelta, Froome has delivered some of the most talked about moments in cycling. And this season, he upped it even more (attacking and dropping his rivals on descents, etc). Besides, Sagan generally only does his crowd pleasing one-handed wheelies when he's off the back; Froome now gets off and runs for a bit on key mountain stages to allow others to catch up...
Froome provided 3 'talked about' moments in this year's Tour
1 was with Sagan, 1 copied Sagan, 1 wouldn't have happened to Sagan“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
TailWindHome wrote:OCDuPalais wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:
Sagan's more exciting to watch for sure.
This is only true if, like Rick, you can't stand Froome.
Otherwise, since his duels with Cobo in 2011 Vuelta, Froome has delivered some of the most talked about moments in cycling. And this season, he upped it even more (attacking and dropping his rivals on descents, etc). Besides, Sagan generally only does his crowd pleasing one-handed wheelies when he's off the back; Froome now gets off and runs for a bit on key mountain stages to allow others to catch up...
Froome provided 3 'talked about' moments in this year's Tour
1 was with Sagan, 1 copied Sagan, 1 wouldn't have happened to Sagan
Sagan was knocked off by a motorbike a year or so ago.0 -
Look Froome's only problem is he has the ugliest style I've ever seen in the pro peloton, his team is strong to the point of tedium and no one can touch him at peak over 3 weeks.
It's hardly a damning list.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Look Froome's only problem is he has the ugliest style I've ever seen in the pro peloton, his team is strong to the point of tedium and no one can touch him at peak over 3 weeks.
It's hardly a damning list.
Worse than Aru and Zakarin? I think not.0 -
frisbee wrote:TailWindHome wrote:OCDuPalais wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:
Sagan's more exciting to watch for sure.
This is only true if, like Rick, you can't stand Froome.
Otherwise, since his duels with Cobo in 2011 Vuelta, Froome has delivered some of the most talked about moments in cycling. And this season, he upped it even more (attacking and dropping his rivals on descents, etc). Besides, Sagan generally only does his crowd pleasing one-handed wheelies when he's off the back; Froome now gets off and runs for a bit on key mountain stages to allow others to catch up...
Froome provided 3 'talked about' moments in this year's Tour
1 was with Sagan, 1 copied Sagan, 1 wouldn't have happened to Sagan
Sagan was knocked off by a motorbike a year or so ago.
Yes. But he didn't ride into one, it had to sneak up behind him“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
TailWindHome wrote:OCDuPalais wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:
Sagan's more exciting to watch for sure.
This is only true if, like Rick, you can't stand Froome.
Otherwise, since his duels with Cobo in 2011 Vuelta, Froome has delivered some of the most talked about moments in cycling. And this season, he upped it even more (attacking and dropping his rivals on descents, etc). Besides, Sagan generally only does his crowd pleasing one-handed wheelies when he's off the back; Froome now gets off and runs for a bit on key mountain stages to allow others to catch up...
Froome provided 3 'talked about' moments in this year's Tour
1 was with Sagan, 1 copied Sagan, 1 wouldn't have happened to Sagan
That's very good full marks - plus I agree with you.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
Froome realises he can win the next 2 TdF with the current Sky team set up so why walk away?
All else is irrelevant.'Performance analysis and Froome not being clean was a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean.' TSP0 -
Joelsim wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Look Froome's only problem is he has the ugliest style I've ever seen in the pro peloton, his team is strong to the point of tedium and no one can touch him at peak over 3 weeks.
It's hardly a damning list.
Worse than Aru and Zakarin? I think not.
What's wrong with Zakarin?
I don't mind Aru so much. At least he looks like he knows how his gears work.0 -
TailWindHome wrote:bobmcstuff wrote:
Sagan's more exciting to watch for sure.
Froome provided 3 'talked about' moments in this year's Tour
1 was with Sagan, 1 copied Sagan, 1 wouldn't have happened to Sagan
Exactly! So Froome is more exciting to watch: after the first two points it's a draw. Point 3 "wouldn't have happened" for 2 reasons: Sagans not good enough to be where that incident happened - or, he would have avoided the accident, therefore more boring....0 -
Can't argue with Froomes's style on the bike, though - bloody awful.0
