How to get the best out of limited time?
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fat daddy wrote:Smudgerii wrote:
As it goes though we all have the same time 24hrs a day ... You don't have time for exersise, cycling etc, you make time for it. You need to take a look at what fills your day and prioritise what you want, you might need to cut some stuff out like an hours sleep or not watching tv
I used to watch the MotoGP, F1 and get up at 7am ... Now I only watch 1hr of tv a day and get up at 5am
What fills my day? If I'm lucky 6 hours sleep, usually split into 5 & 1. 45 minute gym session, wife, daughter, the cooking, night shift, commute ( used to be called travel to work ), help around the house, dogs, being on here
, shooting, fixing guns, going for a coffee, maybe 1 1/2 hours TV if there is anything worth watching ( difficult to find ). Sold the motorbike 
so a little time back there as rids home from work got longer during the good weather...
Anyway got 30 mins on the turbo last nigt and 2 x 9k rides in today, all in all a good day!0 -
Sounds familiar. Most weekdays I have 90 minutes to myself with which to watch TV etc. Which I don't want to use for cycling because it's the only rest I get apart from sleeping! Thankfully I have 30-60 mins each morning and the whole of Sunday morning.0
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If you have time for longer rides, you do, if you don't you don't, please be consistent. And 50km is easy for anyone who can ride 1-1.5 hours at any meaningful pace (over about 12mph) it's just a case of pacing yourself.Smudgerii wrote:The Rookie wrote:50km in under 1.5 hours your not going to get to....50km in 2-2.5 hours is easy unless you throw in a big hill.
Your kind of now contradicting your first post where you said speed wasn't important, well if you want to go further in the same time it clearly is phenomenally important!
Jeez... I know I'm not, simple maths is simple! For clarity, I never said I would, I was replying to your glib comment of 50k being easy. A comment you clearly made without fully reading/understanding my OP.
My OP clearly states I want to ensure I get the best out of my limited time with the aim of improving. Those improvements will clearly help when I eventually have the time for longer rides.
Thanks for the input, no really... Thanks!Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0 -
The Rookie wrote:
If you have time for longer rides, you do, if you don't you don't, please be consistent. And 50km is easy for anyone who can ride 1-1.5 hours at any meaningful pace (over about 12mph) it's just a case of pacing yourself.Smudgerii wrote:The Rookie wrote:50km in under 1.5 hours your not going to get to....50km in 2-2.5 hours is easy unless you throw in a big hill.
Your kind of now contradicting your first post where you said speed wasn't important, well if you want to go further in the same time it clearly is phenomenally important!
Jeez... I know I'm not, simple maths is simple! For clarity, I never said I would, I was replying to your glib comment of 50k being easy. A comment you clearly made without fully reading/understanding my OP.
My OP clearly states I want to ensure I get the best out of my limited time with the aim of improving. Those improvements will clearly help when I eventually have the time for longer rides.
Thanks for the input, no really... Thanks!
I'll keep it simple for you... I've been consistent to my OP, read the fucking post!
Who are you to determine anybodys "meaningful" pace? Without full possession of all the facts on my health, wellbeing and training level you are not in a position to decide my pace.
Yet again, a usefull bit of input from you... Feel free to keep your help to yourself.0 -
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Ditch the guns. Earn Brownie points with the wife i.e exchange chores, work out a routine, negotiate (totally essential). Don't 'go for coffee' - buy a stove top. Forget TV: it's cr4p and you can record anything worth watching anyway. Buy some decent lights/clothing and go out any time. Ditch the non-essential activities.
You can't do everything well; you can only do lots of things in mediocrity.
What's your desired end product/goal? Do you want to have a perpetual life of split shifts and poor sleep? In other words, do you really want to do what your doing now eternally (and you won't stay young forever)?
Oh, and lastly, listen to some of the other posters - they've been around a while.
@Zebulebu. Interesting pyramid. I've done plenty of ascending or descending pyramids but nothing like that.
What's the idea behind it? I'm not critical, just curious; might try it.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
If you want to get the most out of 'limited time' don't look at distances. Look for steep hills, do lots of reps. That would be the way I'd personally do it.0
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Thanks for the replies.
Intervals on the turbo will be an easy route to improving fitness. Sadly no hills of note around here so I'll just have to fill the time with as much distance as possible.0 -
Just worked for me. I've since progressed to a more structured training method, using over-unders, ramps, FTP etc - but when I was looking to increase general fitness without really having the time due to work commitments, that worked wonders. I'm not sure of the science behind it, I think it's probably to do with different types of fast-twitch fibres (you use a different sort for the shortest efforts than you do for the slightly longer ones) but I didn't have a power meter then and relied on perceived effort and heart rate, so wasn't at all scientific about it at the timePinno wrote:@Zebulebu. Interesting pyramid. I've done plenty of ascending or descending pyramids but nothing like that.
What's the idea behind it? I'm not critical, just curious; might try it.
It got me from an average of about 27km/h on a 40km commute to 32 in the space of about a month, which was a pretty good return on investment for what amounted to about an hour & a half of training per week
Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.0 -
For me I've found that the key is to try and make every single ride count in some way.
My "training" is just my 30-40min commute:
- So sometimes I just try and keep up a borderline-uncomfortably quick pace all the way
- Other times it'll be more relaxed with a few big efforts on Strava segments (some short and flat, others are short climbs)
- Sometimes it's mental strength training due to the wind/rain/sleet/snow
- Other times I just pedal away and enjoy the fact I'm outside and able to cycle to/from work every day0 -
Pinno wrote:This is the crux of the matter:BigMonka wrote:- Other times I just pedal away and enjoy the fact I'm outside and able to cycle to/from work every day
If you have limited time, then you can only have limited goals.
Can't agree with that... Limited time just means your goals are harder to achieve, but not impossible.0 -
Pinno wrote:This is the crux of the matter:BigMonka wrote:- Other times I just pedal away and enjoy the fact I'm outside and able to cycle to/from work every day
If you have limited time, then you can only have limited goals.
Thats an opinion, not really a fact.
I dont know how you define your goals, but mine are to be able to still race competitively in vet racing and definitely falling into the category of having limited time as I still work full time.
My weekly training hours can be as low as 3 to 4 in the summer and a few more during the off season.
You make whats available work for you.... so its never about limited time but all about the specifics.
specific, measurable, attainable, realistic and timely seem completely 'lost' on a fair few who contribute to this forum.0 -
Holy batshit, people don't half get on the bandwagon 'on this forum'.
The statement was in reference to the OP, let me remind you:
"I can fit in 3 x 1/2 hour rides during the week and maybe 1hour to 1.5 hours on a Saturday."
Which is a maximum of 3 hours.
You're hardly going to be able to do the Marmotte and you ain't gonna race at 4th cat with those sort of hours and yes goals are achievable with enough effort and whatever he does, he's not going to have the time to test any endurance gains.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
fat daddy wrote:Pinno wrote:.
You're hardly going to be able to do the Marmotte and you ain't gonna race at 4th cat with those sort of hours
That's what everyone else said ... So welcome to the band wagon
Is the band wagon something like:
[Pedantic mode on} <insert some nit picking statement because you simply want to show how big your Dick is and how clever you are> [Pedantic mode off]
I can do that.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Pinno wrote:Holy batshit, people don't half get on the bandwagon 'on this forum'.
The statement was in reference to the OP, let me remind you:
"I can fit in 3 x 1/2 hour rides during the week and maybe 1hour to 1.5 hours on a Saturday."
Which is a maximum of 3 hours.
You're hardly going to be able to do the Marmotte and you ain't gonna race at 4th cat with those sort of hours and yes goals are achievable with enough effort and whatever he does, he's not going to have the time to test any endurance gains.
Whats "the Marmotte"? Not much of a dancer, but hey I'll give it a go.....
My goals will never include racing, it's all about fitness and fun for me0 -
Smudgerii wrote:Pinno wrote:Holy batshit, people don't half get on the bandwagon 'on this forum'.
The statement was in reference to the OP, let me remind you:
"I can fit in 3 x 1/2 hour rides during the week and maybe 1hour to 1.5 hours on a Saturday."
Which is a maximum of 3 hours.
You're hardly going to be able to do the Marmotte and you ain't gonna race at 4th cat with those sort of hours and yes goals are achievable with enough effort and whatever he does, he's not going to have the time to test any endurance gains.
Whats "the Marmotte"? Not much of a dancer, but hey I'll give it a go.....
My goals will never include racing, it's all about fitness and fun for me
The Marmotte is probably the mother of all sportives (aside from the Dragon ride perhaps but it is one of the oldest) based on a stage route of the TdF in 1982. Some bright spark said "Hey, why don't we try that?". What he actually said was probably more like "I zink zis eez une bonne idee" 'cos he was French. It is 109 miles over 4 peaks in the Alps with over 5000m of climbing chucked in for good measure.
"Fitness and fun". Yep, couldn't agree with you more but I think that got lost somewhere in the 'band wagon'.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Pinno wrote:
The Marmotte is probably the mother of all sportives (aside from the Dragon ride perhaps but it is one of the oldest) based on a stage route of the TdF in 1982. Some bright spark said "Hey, why don't we try that?". What he actually said was probably more like "I zink zis eez une bonne idee" 'cos he was French. It is 109 miles over 4 peaks in the Alps with over 5000m of climbing chucked in for good measure.
I'll get my Passport and a couple of energy gels.... Have a day off work booked so could fit this in.0 -
175km and 5000m or 109 miles and 16,400ft. Not 109 miles and 5000m.
Seriously it's either miles distance and feet climbed or kilometres distance and metres climbed... Why feel the need to mix units.
Next time I quote ride stats I'm going to report my climbs in negative fathoms and my distance in furlongs. You people make me sick 0
