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  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    Moraygub wrote:
    hypster wrote:
    effillo wrote:
    Anyone noticed the 'nothing wrong' option is most popular. Maybe there wasn't actually anything wrong with this years edition.....

    27% isn't that popular, you'll always get a few contrarians and a few with sausage fingers who hit the wrong part of the screen.

    And what's to stop those with "sausage fingers" voting for "It's the parcours" rather than "There's nothing wrong"? It works both ways.


    OK true, but you must have noticed a trend for the better quality posters criticising the race non?

    How do you get into this "better quality of poster" bracket and do you have to think that this years TDF was a stinker to gain admission. Curious as i didn't realise that there was some sort of hierachy when it comes to discussing cycling.

    I believe you start by reading L'Equipe.
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    I believe to be a high quality poster you had to be off French Fighters block list? Or maybe the other way around.

    I didn't think this tour was that bad. But that may have been because I was following it a bit closer than in recent years, and sport in general is more interesting when you start getting properly into it, so to speak.

    Personally, I don't think there was anything wrong with the tour as such. It would have been nice to see more competition for the green and yellow jerseys, but a lot of the ideas for producing excitement seem to come from the Bernie Eccleston last race=double points school of sports administration.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Moraygub wrote:
    hypster wrote:
    effillo wrote:
    Anyone noticed the 'nothing wrong' option is most popular. Maybe there wasn't actually anything wrong with this years edition.....

    27% isn't that popular, you'll always get a few contrarians and a few with sausage fingers who hit the wrong part of the screen.

    And what's to stop those with "sausage fingers" voting for "It's the parcours" rather than "There's nothing wrong"? It works both ways.


    OK true, but you must have noticed a trend for the better quality posters criticising the race non?

    How do you get into this "better quality of poster" bracket and do you have to think that this years TDF was a stinker to gain admission. Curious as i didn't realise that there was some sort of hierachy when it comes to discussing cycling.

    10 years in and three and a half thousand posts would do it. :wink:
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  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    So all the evidence is in! Now how to fix it?

    One less man per team - might nobble Sky a bit but just a bit
    Change the way winner is calculated - do away with total time and instead allocate points per stage

    What do you think?

    That's getting a bit too Bernie Ecclestone for me. As viewers have found F1 more boring in recent years he's come out with some wacky races like solutions such as putting a sprinkler next to the track on a timer, double points for the last race, tyres which disintegrate randomly etc.

    Ultimately it's up to the cyclists to make it more competitive, not for the organisers to change the rules.

    That said, I'd like to see long rolling stages and then relatively short mountain finishes.
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Jez mon wrote:
    I believe to be a high quality poster you had to be off French Fighters block list? Or maybe the other way around.

    I didn't think this tour was that bad. But that may have been because I was following it a bit closer than in recent years, and sport in general is more interesting when you start getting properly into it, so to speak.

    Personally, I don't think there was anything wrong with the tour as such. It would have been nice to see more competition for the green and yellow jerseys, but a lot of the ideas for producing excitement seem to come from the Bernie Eccleston last race=double points school of sports administration.

    Great minds and all that...
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    To be fair the reason the green jersey wasn't especially competitive is because Peter Sagan is Peter Sagan.

    If he was a bit less good then there are quite a few other contenders like Matthews, GVA etc. who might be tempted to go for it.

    Not too dissimilar from Froome's all-round superiority in the Tour this year actually.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    smithy21 wrote:
    Moraygub wrote:
    hypster wrote:
    effillo wrote:
    Anyone noticed the 'nothing wrong' option is most popular. Maybe there wasn't actually anything wrong with this years edition.....

    27% isn't that popular, you'll always get a few contrarians and a few with sausage fingers who hit the wrong part of the screen.

    And what's to stop those with "sausage fingers" voting for "It's the parcours" rather than "There's nothing wrong"? It works both ways.


    OK true, but you must have noticed a trend for the better quality posters criticising the race non?

    How do you get into this "better quality of poster" bracket and do you have to think that this years TDF was a stinker to gain admission. Curious as i didn't realise that there was some sort of hierachy when it comes to discussing cycling.

    I believe you start by reading L'Equipe.

    Ah yes, the 'I've read the mitherings of some French men so I must be smart' school of cycling analysis. It seems there is some crossover with my day job then.
    Correlation is not causation.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Moraygub wrote:

    How do you get into this "better quality of poster" bracket and do you have to think that this years TDF was a stinker to gain admission. Curious as i didn't realise that there was some sort of hierachy when it comes to discussing cycling.

    I'm afraid that if you have to ask...
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,649
    I'm not in the Quality Posters® club.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,473
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    Just caught up on the highlights of the last week now.
    There was some good racing, unfortunately it was all being done by Pantano, Majka, Alaphilipe etc and not the GC riders

    The 'problem' was a lack of rivalry.
    Sport needs a rivalry to be entertaining.
    Preferably a goodie and a baddie.

    The baddie won this one too comfortably.
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