Boris Johnson is foreign secretary?

rolf_f

Lookyhere wrote:

orraloon wrote:

Yebbut.

The May may be cuter than we think. Get the Leavers inside pixxing out rather than the other way round.

Put Leavers into the 3 key slots where they have to deliver and be seen to deliver, not just soundbite as per usual Bojo boxxox, real upside. You lot got us into this omnishambles, ok crack on and get this bright new future you promised us all.

Yes but .... TM has also said we face a bright new future, if or rather when these fcukwits fcuk up, she ll get the blame too.

Naah. She voted remain. She is involving the biggest Brexiters in her cabinet as she can and putting the responsibility of sorting out what they wanted on them. When they make an utter dogs breakfast of it, hopefully the result will be far less extreme than the Brexiters would want and TM can blame that on them themselves.

Either that or she just has far more of a sense of humour than anyone has given her credit for.

rick_chasey

His first speech with the French was booed so.

surrey_commuter

Bo Duke wrote:

By definition, as foreign minister the diplomacy aspect is top of his agenda.

'Black and white' means something is obvious.

'Hello boys' refers to a lingerie advert which Boris might just utter when he meets his counterparts for the first time.

Milk and sugar SC?

Words random writing you

There is a minister for Brexit - not Boris

Bo Duke

So was Froome. So what? What did you expect?

Also to say there is a minister for Brexit so Boris won't be involved (speaking with such authority...) is kinda stretching the imagination a bit, I imagine the cabinet will be closely involved in all decisions and the minister will be pulling it all together.

Think of the country as a business and the cabinet as the board, one fellow wouldn't be given the authority to take the boat to Calais and not have to report back and seek guidance would he? A simple analogy but maybe it will hit home.

veronese68

Coopster the 1st wrote:

It was Boris or Gove as one of them was needed to help re-unite the party and Gove shot down any chances with his approach when entering the leadership contest. As much as many on here want it, it cannot be a remainers only team otherwise the same splits still exist behind the scenes. I cannot believe how many are blinded to this by their own myopia!

I'm more concerned that Hunt has kept his job and not been jettisoned. He's done more damage to the NHS than any Brexit vote will do!

I have to agree with Coops here, especially about that Hunt in charge of the NHS. I'm not happy with Boris being appointed, but rather him than Gove.

lostboysaint

orraloon wrote:

Yebbut.

The May may be cuter than we think. Get the Leavers inside pixxing out rather than the other way round.

Put Leavers into the 3 key slots where they have to deliver and be seen to deliver, not just soundbite as per usual Bojo boxxox, real upside. You lot got us into this omnishambles, ok crack on and get this bright new future you promised us all.

Absolutely bang on, she's played a blinder. "It was your idea, sort it out because if you don't you really are finished and not just a political force but your personal credibility will be so poor that you'll struggle to find anything."

Andrea Loathsome at Agriculture - dealing with all those farmers and fisherman who wanted out but now need to realise that they have no subsidies after the exit period and that quotas will be non-existant, both ways around. Bang goes the new RR every year.

rick_chasey

Uganda skewers Bojo.

surrey_commuter

Bo Duke wrote:

So was Froome. So what? What did you expect?

Also to say there is a minister for Brexit so Boris won't be involved (speaking with such authority...) is kinda stretching the imagination a bit, I imagine the cabinet will be closely involved in all decisions and the minister will be pulling it all together.

Think of the country as a business and the cabinet as the board, one fellow wouldn't be given the authority to take the boat to Calais and not have to report back and seek guidance would he? A simple analogy but maybe it will hit home.

In your analogy David Davis is Mike Tyson. Brexit and intl.trade have specifically been excluded from FCO.

The govt is more like a management board with all the power sitting with the CEO. Read up on Theresa May she is as hard as nails micro manager. She has put one fellow in a boat to Calais and he will be reporting back to her.

Fwiw I like her

Bo Duke

I don't disagree, I think she's the best outcome we could have hoped for. Fortunately none of the idiots got through the selection process.

surrey_commuter

Bo Duke wrote:

I don't disagree, I think she's the best outcome we could have hoped for. Fortunately none of the idiots got through the selection process.

It looked very engineered - gives you hope that there are some smart people pulling the strings behind the scenes

orraloon

Surrey Commuter wrote:

hope that there are some smart people pulling the strings behind the scenes

Conspiracy theory klaxon.

Since the demise of Manc33 we haven't had much of that to tickle us.

surrey_commuter

orraloon wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

hope that there are some smart people pulling the strings behind the scenes

Conspiracy theory klaxon.

Since the demise of Manc33 we haven't had much of that to tickle us.

That's a bit harsh.

I picture him in a prison/padded cell yelling "but I am a free man of the land"

mamba80

Bo Duke wrote:

So was Froome. So what? What did you expect?

Also to say there is a minister for Brexit so Boris won't be involved (speaking with such authority...) is kinda stretching the imagination a bit, I imagine the cabinet will be closely involved in all decisions and the minister will be pulling it all together.

Think of the country as a business and the cabinet as the board, one fellow wouldn't be given the authority to take the boat to Calais and not have to report back and seek guidance would he? A simple analogy but maybe it will hit home.

Foreign Sec is a hi powered Global job, he l be representing us at NATO, UN G8, G20 etc unlike the Brexit minister, which is EU only.

Watching boris speak about the Nice attacks, you just expect him to pull out a punch line for a joke, he carries no gravitas, looks like a p1ssed up Oli Reed.

As for your analogy, the company can have the best product and best price, but if the salesman stinks of BO and cheap fags, talks like an idiot that clearly doesnt know what he is selling... would you buy????

mrfpb

mamba80 wrote:

Bo Duke wrote:

So was Froome. So what? What did you expect?

Also to say there is a minister for Brexit so Boris won't be involved (speaking with such authority...) is kinda stretching the imagination a bit, I imagine the cabinet will be closely involved in all decisions and the minister will be pulling it all together.

Think of the country as a business and the cabinet as the board, one fellow wouldn't be given the authority to take the boat to Calais and not have to report back and seek guidance would he? A simple analogy but maybe it will hit home.

Foreign Sec is a hi powered Global job, he l be representing us at NATO, UN G8, G20 etc unlike the Brexit minister, which is EU only.

Watching boris speak about the Nice attacks, you just expect him to pull out a punch line for a joke, he carries no gravitas, looks like a p1ssed up Oli Reed.

As for your analogy, the company can have the best product and best price, but if the salesman stinks of BO and cheap fags, talks like an idiot that clearly doesnt know what he is selling... would you buy????

Th creation of international trade sec (Liam Fox) really dilutes the Foreign Sec role. The important practical stuff of encouraging buying and selling goes to Fox, while Boris gets to make the official statements and schmooze. We still have a decent team of Royals to deploy for the schmoozing as well - Harry and Will aren't tainted in the way that Prince Andrew is (yet). And of course the Queen still knows how to grin and keep quiet when meeting people like Mugabe, Martin McGuiness etc.

And the issue with Boris isn't that he isn't up to the job of holding his tongue when meeting undesirables that we have to get along with, it's that he has a habit of insulting our closest allies and partners.

surrey_commuter

mrfpb wrote:

mamba80 wrote:

Bo Duke wrote:

So was Froome. So what? What did you expect?

Also to say there is a minister for Brexit so Boris won't be involved (speaking with such authority...) is kinda stretching the imagination a bit, I imagine the cabinet will be closely involved in all decisions and the minister will be pulling it all together.

Think of the country as a business and the cabinet as the board, one fellow wouldn't be given the authority to take the boat to Calais and not have to report back and seek guidance would he? A simple analogy but maybe it will hit home.

Foreign Sec is a hi powered Global job, he l be representing us at NATO, UN G8, G20 etc unlike the Brexit minister, which is EU only.

Watching boris speak about the Nice attacks, you just expect him to pull out a punch line for a joke, he carries no gravitas, looks like a p1ssed up Oli Reed.

As for your analogy, the company can have the best product and best price, but if the salesman stinks of BO and cheap fags, talks like an idiot that clearly doesnt know what he is selling... would you buy????

Th creation of international trade sec (Liam Fox) really dilutes the Foreign Sec role. The important practical stuff of encouraging buying and selling goes to Fox, while Boris gets to make the official statements and schmooze. We still have a decent team of Royals to deploy for the schmoozing as well - Harry and Will aren't tainted in the way that Prince Andrew is (yet). And of course the Queen still knows how to grin and keep quiet when meeting people like Mugabe, Martin McGuiness etc.

And the issue with Boris isn't that he isn't up to the job of holding his tongue when meeting undesirables that we have to get along with, it's that he has a habit of insulting our closest allies and partners.

Also has a habit of turning up late and poorly briefed.

Ben6899

Only the Brits are enamoured by people who buffoon around, like Johnson. That kind of behaviour simply doesn't wash in other European cultures.

The German response to him acting the c*** will be along the lines "look mate, we're here to do business and talk about serious stuff. If you can't do that, then f*** right off and come back when you're in a different mood".

surrey_commuter

Does anybody have a theory on why he keeps saying "we are leaving the EU but still want to be part of Europe" or words to that effect.

Lookyhere

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Does anybody have a theory on why he keeps saying "we are leaving the EU but still want to be part of Europe" or words to that effect.

Was wondering myself, maybe he regrets his part in Brexit? he must realise that once we are out of EU, we are out of European influence too.

didnt he make some big pro EU speech back in.... when was it? an age ago, oh yes feb 2016 !!!!

surrey_commuter

Lookyhere wrote:

Surrey Commuter wrote:

Does anybody have a theory on why he keeps saying "we are leaving the EU but still want to be part of Europe" or words to that effect.

Was wondering myself, maybe he regrets his part in Brexit? he must realise that once we are out of EU, we are out of European influence too.

didnt he make some big pro EU speech back in.... when was it? an age ago, oh yes feb 2016 !!!!

I did wonder if he meant geographically :shock:

4kicks

Leaving aside Bo Dukes completely unfathomable references to black and white chessboards and 1990s adverts, the concept of BFJ (Boris, F**cking Johnson, as I think he should be called) being "just the point-man" with grownups behind the scenes has been proven in Europe to just not work, Yanis Varoufakis, anyone?

One wonders if this wasnt Theresa Mays "pact with the Devil" in order to get elected, as surely you can put BFJ in a cabinet somewhere else where he can do less damage to a UK whose international reputation has now moved from tragic to farcical.

I can´t wait to visit Kenya again over Christmas to see how grownup politicians behave.

Stevo_666

mamba80 wrote:

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As for your analogy, the company can have the best product and best price, but if the salesman stinks of BO and cheap fags, talks like an idiot that clearly doesnt know what he is selling... would you buy????

Unlike Labour which has a crap product and a crap salesman....

Frank the tank

Stevo 666 wrote:

mamba80 wrote:

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As for your analogy, the company can have the best product and best price, but if the salesman stinks of BO and cheap fags, talks like an idiot that clearly doesnt know what he is selling... would you buy????

Unlike Labour which has a crap product and a crap salesman....

You voted for him

Stevo_666

Frank the tank wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

mamba80 wrote:

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As for your analogy, the company can have the best product and best price, but if the salesman stinks of BO and cheap fags, talks like an idiot that clearly doesnt know what he is selling... would you buy????

Unlike Labour which has a crap product and a crap salesman....

You voted for him

Result !

rick_chasey

Fairly low expectations

Stevo_666

Rick Chasey wrote:

Fairly low expectations

Sounds partly like sour grapes from the Eurocrats.

Frank the tank

Stevo 666 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Fairly low expectations

Sounds partly like sour grapes from the Eurocrats.

Sounds like an accurate description, I could say of a despicable sh1t, but I'll leave it at an accurate description.

orraloon

Stevo 666 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Fairly low expectations

Sounds partly like sour grapes from the Eurocrats.

Why? This is all down to 'us' Brits. Our "democratically elected" new PM has appointed Mr Full of Sh1t Blowhard de Pfeffel as Foreign Sec, nowt to do with anyone else.

ballysmate

Seem to remember Londoners voting him mayor and then, given the chance, voted for him again.
Either he is not as bad as his act or Londoners are as thick as mince.
Probably the mince option.

mamba80

Ballysmate wrote:

Seem to remember Londoners voting him mayor and then, given the chance, voted for him again.
Either he is not as bad as his act or Londoners are as thick as mince.
Probably the mince option.

the People also voted for BoatyMcboatyface too.

Stevo_666

orraloon wrote:

Stevo 666 wrote:

Rick Chasey wrote:

Fairly low expectations

Sounds partly like sour grapes from the Eurocrats.

Why? This is all down to 'us' Brits. Our "democratically elected" new PM has appointed Mr Full of Sh1t Blowhard de Pfeffel as Foreign Sec, nowt to do with anyone else.

Probably because they see him as one of the people who spoiled their party. BREXIT has caused some big problems for the EU.