Another Thread Hijacked by WeekendCycling Fan

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Rodrego Hernandez wrote:
    Maybe because if a soccer player gets hurt and has a cortisone injection at the side of the pitch in order to continue playing they are hailed a hero yet if a cyclist takes anything they are damned. Better to keep quiet.

    You're not wrong. Sadly cycling has such a tainted history any sniff of drugs and all get tarnished with the same brush.
    and history shows they're needle monkeys.

    And your posting history shows you have the needle that is stuck.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Despite what you think, I'm not hoping for a drug scandal. I would just like to see the necessary reform and oversight of British Cycling and Sky not to use public money for their own profit.
    [/quote][/quote]

    Mate, do you pay UK tax? Or even hold British citizenship?
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,649
    Please ignore the obvious troll. It's a few weeks to MSR, and if the spoiler thread gets hijacked then I'm going ballistic.
    Block. Ignore. Avoid.
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  • weekendcyclingfan
    weekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    dish_dash wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Despite what you think, I'm not hoping for a drug scandal. I would just like to see the necessary reform and oversight of British Cycling and Sky not to use public money for their own profit.

    Mate, do you pay UK tax? Or even hold British citizenship?

    Not sure why that would be relevant. It's very hard to keep you guys focused on the topic at hand. Continued digression and weakening into a position of personal attacks. Be strong. Discuss the topic.
  • weekendcyclingfan
    weekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Please ignore the obvious troll. It's a few weeks to MSR, and if the spoiler thread gets hijacked then I'm going ballistic.
    Block. Ignore. Avoid.

    Then just ignore the thread. Why do you keep coming here to tell eveyone you are ignoring the thread? Just stay out. Simple. Want to discuss MSR? Go the MSR thread. Easy.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,649
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Despite what you think, I'm not hoping for a drug scandal. I would just like to see the necessary reform and oversight of British Cycling and Sky not to use public money for their own profit.

    Mate, do you pay UK tax? Or even hold British citizenship?

    Not sure why that would be relevant. It's very hard to keep you guys focused on the topic at hand. Continued digression and weakening into a position of personal attacks. Be strong. Discuss the topic.

    The topic in hand was The British and Irish Profesional Cyclists Association. You derailed it.

    If you want to discuss something else, please create a thread for it.
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  • weekendcyclingfan
    weekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Despite what you think, I'm not hoping for a drug scandal. I would just like to see the necessary reform and oversight of British Cycling and Sky not to use public money for their own profit.

    Mate, do you pay UK tax? Or even hold British citizenship?

    Not sure why that would be relevant. It's very hard to keep you guys focused on the topic at hand. Continued digression and weakening into a position of personal attacks. Be strong. Discuss the topic.

    The topic in hand was The British and Irish Profesional Cyclists Association. You derailed it.

    If you want to discuss something else, please create a thread for it.

    That I did, but the BikeRadar hit squad hijacked the thread & it was not possible to read the serious posts. Just the usual censorship and silencing from Saddles and Rich - they tend to organizing the bullying on this forum.

    This is the closest thread I could find to British Cycling to continue the conversation with regards to Howden and the on-going investagtion by UKAD. You see, simple.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,649
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Despite what you think, I'm not hoping for a drug scandal. I would just like to see the necessary reform and oversight of British Cycling and Sky not to use public money for their own profit.

    Mate, do you pay UK tax? Or even hold British citizenship?

    Not sure why that would be relevant. It's very hard to keep you guys focused on the topic at hand. Continued digression and weakening into a position of personal attacks. Be strong. Discuss the topic.

    The topic in hand was The British and Irish Profesional Cyclists Association. You derailed it.

    If you want to discuss something else, please create a thread for it.

    That I did, but the BikeRadar hit squad hijacked the thread & it was not possible to read the serious posts. Just the usual censorship and silencing from Saddles and Rich - they tend to organizing the bullying on this forum.

    This is the closest thread I could find to British Cycling to continue the conversation with regards to Howden and the on-going investagtion by UKAD. You see, simple.

    This thread has absolutely nothing to do with British Cycling, Sky, TUEs, Wiggins or any of that.


    Create the thread you want, don't hijack somebody else's.
    If the forum don't want to discuss those issues with you then there's a good reason.

    Alternatively, just fuck off back to the asylum and give up trolling here.
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Agree, only good things can come from Parliament getting involved, a point I made much earlier, good to have agreement on that front. They are currently attempting to reform the FA to much resistance. I doubt British Cycling will have much of a say in it to fight any changes,

    BC don't have anything like the finances of the FA and its members so that's no great surprise.

    Can't disagree that some reforms might be a good thing.
  • weekendcyclingfan
    weekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Agree, only good things can come from Parliament getting involved, a point I made much earlier, good to have agreement on that front. They are currently attempting to reform the FA to much resistance. I doubt British Cycling will have much of a say in it to fight any changes,

    BC don't have anything like the finances of the FA and its members so that's no great surprise.

    Can't disagree that some reforms might be a good thing.

    True. I think there will be a restructuring of sorts, UKAD to be given more powers, perhaps more reporting back into the the government committes and UK Sport.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Agree, only good things can come from Parliament getting involved, a point I made much earlier, good to have agreement on that front. They are currently attempting to reform the FA to much resistance. I doubt British Cycling will have much of a say in it to fight any changes,

    BC don't have anything like the finances of the FA and its members so that's no great surprise.

    Can't disagree that some reforms might be a good thing.

    True. I think there will be a restructuring of sorts, UKAD to be given more powers, perhaps more reporting back into the the government committes and UK Sport.

    I think what UKAD really need is more money, to be honest. They've no hope with the number of sports they have to cover as it stands.
  • weekendcyclingfan
    weekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Agree, only good things can come from Parliament getting involved, a point I made much earlier, good to have agreement on that front. They are currently attempting to reform the FA to much resistance. I doubt British Cycling will have much of a say in it to fight any changes,

    BC don't have anything like the finances of the FA and its members so that's no great surprise.

    Can't disagree that some reforms might be a good thing.

    True. I think there will be a restructuring of sorts, UKAD to be given more powers, perhaps more reporting back into the the government committes and UK Sport.

    I think what UKAD really need is more money, to be honest. They've no hope with the number of sports they have to cover as it stands.


    That is part of it, more executive power to investigate and subpoena evidence.
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    This thread is off topic. Because of trolling of course.

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  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    dish_dash wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Despite what you think, I'm not hoping for a drug scandal. I would just like to see the necessary reform and oversight of British Cycling and Sky not to use public money for their own profit.

    Mate, do you pay UK tax? Or even hold British citizenship?

    Not sure why that would be relevant. It's very hard to keep you guys focused on the topic at hand. Continued digression and weakening into a position of personal attacks. Be strong. Discuss the topic.

    The topic in hand was The British and Irish Profesional Cyclists Association. You derailed it.

    If you want to discuss something else, please create a thread for it.

    That I did, but the BikeRadar hit squad hijacked the thread & it was not possible to read the serious posts. Just the usual censorship and silencing from Saddles and Rich - they tend to organizing the bullying on this forum.

    This is the closest thread I could find to British Cycling to continue the conversation with regards to Howden and the on-going investagtion by UKAD. You see, simple.

    Quite right re your comment about bullying.

    Thank goodness that these abusive personal attacks designed to silence valid alternative views are ignored by you. I often see reference to the clinic and yet this place can be ultra closed minded in the opposite direction.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    Quite right re your comment about bullying.

    Thank goodness that these abusive personal attacks designed to silence valid alternative views are ignored by you. I often see reference to the clinic and yet this place can be ultra closed minded in the opposite direction.


    Took a while, but his post finally reached it's intended recipient.

    Again, you talk about closed minds.
    Yet you repeatedly argue that the sport's history is proof that things today must also be so.
    History cannot be changed, therefore, in your view, change cannot take place.
    To me, the very definition of a closed mind.

    The rest of us, because we do not adhere to this intransigent viewpoint and await indictable proof, are free to change our minds at any point in the future.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Rodrego Hernandez
    Rodrego Hernandez Posts: 1,436
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Agree, only good things can come from Parliament getting involved, a point I made much earlier, good to have agreement on that front. They are currently attempting to reform the FA to much resistance. I doubt British Cycling will have much of a say in it to fight any changes,

    BC don't have anything like the finances of the FA and its members so that's no great surprise.

    Can't disagree that some reforms might be a good thing.

    True. I think there will be a restructuring of sorts, UKAD to be given more powers, perhaps more reporting back into the the government committes and UK Sport.

    I think what UKAD really need is more money, to be honest. They've no hope with the number of sports they have to cover as it stands.

    UKAD need one thing and it isn't money. They need the incentive to catch the cheats. At the moment, if they caught a heap of elite riders it would be perceived that they were not doing their job correctly. So what they do is present that their education programs are working by not catching elites but they do target the odd sh1t kicker to show that it's mainly the lower categories that are doping.....

    I know for a fact that they have been tipped them off about 4 elite level athletes that are dodgy and they have done nothing. That is they have been given times / dates methods etc and have done nothing in over 18 months.

    Money alone won't help them - they need the desire to clean up the sport.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

    UKAD need one thing and it isn't money. They need the incentive to catch the cheats. At the moment, if they caught a heap of elite riders it would be perceived that they were not doing their job correctly.
    With regard to cycling (you refer to elite riders), I don't think they should be doing that much - just offering support to CADF - as far as World Tour/Pro Conti riders are concerned. It's an international sport and needs an international testing strategy.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

    UKAD need one thing and it isn't money. They need the incentive to catch the cheats. At the moment, if they caught a heap of elite riders it would be perceived that they were not doing their job correctly.
    With regard to cycling (you refer to elite riders), I don't think they should be doing that much - just offering support to CADF - as far as World Tour/Pro Conti riders are concerned. It's an international sport and needs an international testing strategy.

    A feeble apologist view, like the letter rick posted from the Spanish football authorities.
  • weekendcyclingfan
    weekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

    UKAD need one thing and it isn't money. They need the incentive to catch the cheats. At the moment, if they caught a heap of elite riders it would be perceived that they were not doing their job correctly.
    With regard to cycling (you refer to elite riders), I don't think they should be doing that much - just offering support to CADF - as far as World Tour/Pro Conti riders are concerned. It's an international sport and needs an international testing strategy.

    A feeble apologist view, like the letter rick posted from the Spanish football authorities.

    Agreed, let's hand it over to Cookson's CADF, the same guy who oversaw suspect packages at British Cycling / Sky.
  • weekendcyclingfan
    weekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    Quite right re your comment about bullying.

    Thank goodness that these abusive personal attacks designed to silence valid alternative views are ignored by you. I often see reference to the clinic and yet this place can be ultra closed minded in the opposite direction.


    Took a while, but his post finally reached it's intended recipient.

    Again, you talk about closed minds.
    Yet you repeatedly argue that the sport's history is proof that things today must also be so.
    History cannot be changed, therefore, in your view, change cannot take place.
    To me, the very definition of a closed mind.

    The rest of us, because we do not adhere to this intransigent viewpoint and await indictable proof, are free to change our minds at any point in the future.

    Yes Saddles, open mind, it's the character of the three girls involved.
  • CuthbertC
    CuthbertC Posts: 172
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

    UKAD need one thing and it isn't money. They need the incentive to catch the cheats. At the moment, if they caught a heap of elite riders it would be perceived that they were not doing their job correctly.
    With regard to cycling (you refer to elite riders), I don't think they should be doing that much - just offering support to CADF - as far as World Tour/Pro Conti riders are concerned. It's an international sport and needs an international testing strategy.

    The WADA Code requires more of them:
    The 2015 World Anti-Doping Code states that every anti-doping organisation must have the resources to obtain, assess and handle anti-doping intelligence and information. UKAD has the capability to deal with intelligence and actively conducts investigations into suspected doping violations.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    I went for a ride this morning. I could do with some PED and more training.

    Also fewer pies might help
  • Rodrego Hernandez
    Rodrego Hernandez Posts: 1,436
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    Quite right re your comment about bullying.

    Thank goodness that these abusive personal attacks designed to silence valid alternative views are ignored by you. I often see reference to the clinic and yet this place can be ultra closed minded in the opposite direction.


    Took a while, but his post finally reached it's intended recipient.

    Again, you talk about closed minds.
    Yet you repeatedly argue that the sport's history is proof that things today must also be so.
    History cannot be changed, therefore, in your view, change cannot take place.
    To me, the very definition of a closed mind.

    The rest of us, because we do not adhere to this intransigent viewpoint and await indictable proof, are free to change our minds at any point in the future.

    Yes Saddles, open mind, it's the character of the three girls involved.

    Remind us again which 3 girls are involved in the jiffy bag / UKAD / CMS debacle?
  • Rodrego Hernandez
    Rodrego Hernandez Posts: 1,436
    CuthbertC wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Rodrego Hernandez wrote:

    UKAD need one thing and it isn't money. They need the incentive to catch the cheats. At the moment, if they caught a heap of elite riders it would be perceived that they were not doing their job correctly.
    With regard to cycling (you refer to elite riders), I don't think they should be doing that much - just offering support to CADF - as far as World Tour/Pro Conti riders are concerned. It's an international sport and needs an international testing strategy.

    The WADA Code requires more of them:
    The 2015 World Anti-Doping Code states that every anti-doping organisation must have the resources to obtain, assess and handle anti-doping intelligence and information. UKAD has the capability to deal with intelligence and actively conducts investigations into suspected doping violations.

    We, as cyclists require more of them. More money won't help, they need to be using their current resources properly.
  • weekendcyclingfan
    weekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    Wiggins out of the jump, hope its nothing to do with the current investigations.
  • tim000
    tim000 Posts: 718
    :roll: :roll: :roll: FFS , he has a leg fracture . but then you already knew that . just another trolling post
  • weekendcyclingfan
    weekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    tim000 wrote:
    :roll: :roll: :roll: FFS , he has a leg fracture . but then you already knew that . just another trolling post

    There are lot of coincidences in this story. Said he doesn't need a cast, just has to leave the show. Wonder what he might do next?
  • tim000
    tim000 Posts: 718
    medical expert now too
  • weekendcyclingfan
    weekendcyclingfan Posts: 980
    tim000 wrote:
    medical expert now too

    No, he announced on twitter that he didn't need a cast.
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,436
    weekendcyclingfan wrote:
    tim000 wrote:
    :roll: :roll: :roll: FFS , he has a leg fracture . but then you already knew that . just another trolling post

    There are lot of coincidences in this story. Said he doesn't need a cast, just has to leave the show. Wonder what he might do next?

    It's obvious isn't it? He's going to make a full confession to his nefarious deeds, serialized in the Daily Mail plus a prime time tear-laden, heart-pouring TV appearance hosted by Piers Morgan.

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