Planet X Pro Carbon Shimano Ultegra 6800 Road Bike

Apeman14
Apeman14 Posts: 30
edited May 2016 in Road buying advice
for £899 reduced from £1199.
I know that there has been a long thread about planet x and it's pricing policy, but when it comes to a deal for a new carbon framed bike (I'm wanting to upgrade from aluminium - for a 2nd road bike), is there anything out there that comes close to this as a good first carbon framed bike with ultegra group set for just £900?
The reviews in cycle magazines are invariably good and the reviews from customers likewise, so is there something that i'm missing? or is there anything else out there I should consider?
Your advice would be much appreciated.
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  • ayjaycee
    ayjaycee Posts: 1,277
    What's your current bike? Just because it's carbon, it doesn't necessarily mean that the PX frame Is an upgrade. That said, Ultegra 6800 is very nice to have.
    Cannondale Synapse Carbon Ultegra
    Kinesis Racelight 4S
    Specialized Allez Elite (Frame/Forks for sale)
    Specialized Crosstrail Comp Disk (For sale)
  • Apeman14
    Apeman14 Posts: 30
    Nothing more advanced than a Felt F95 at present. My first road bike and I've really enjoyed it, but wanted to go to something a bit better and lighter.
  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    I had a Planet-X RT-58 and it was a really harsh ride.My £300 allu Boardman Road Sport felt better.
    I stripped it and put the Ultegra stuff and wheels on a Canyon Ultimate CF frame...totally different ride.
    The compromise with Planet-X is the frame.My mate had an On-One 456C and he had a similar experience with it feeling harsh to ride.
    Lynskey R480

  • scottishgeek
    scottishgeek Posts: 143
    ibbo68 wrote:
    I had a Planet-X RT-58 and it was a really harsh ride.My £300 allu Boardman Road Sport felt better.
    I stripped it and put the Ultegra stuff and wheels on a Canyon Ultimate CF frame...totally different ride.
    The compromise with Planet-X is the frame.My mate had an On-One 456C and he had a similar experience with it feeling harsh to ride.
    Strange. I have an RT-58 and don't find it harsh at all even to the extent of having no discomfort in my right wrist* following a 169km ride.

    *I'd had a distal radius fracture, including an intra-articular fracture, 12 weeks previously which I am still having physiotherapy on.
  • sniper68
    sniper68 Posts: 2,910
    ScottishGeek wrote:
    ibbo68 wrote:
    I had a Planet-X RT-58 and it was a really harsh ride.My £300 allu Boardman Road Sport felt better.
    I stripped it and put the Ultegra stuff and wheels on a Canyon Ultimate CF frame...totally different ride.
    The compromise with Planet-X is the frame.My mate had an On-One 456C and he had a similar experience with it feeling harsh to ride.
    Strange. I have an RT-58 and don't find it harsh at all even to the extent of having no discomfort in my right wrist* following a 169km ride.

    *I'd had a distal radius fracture, including an intra-articular fracture, 12 weeks previously which I am still having physiotherapy on.
    Horses for courses!
    I couldn't wait to get rid of mine.It very nearly put me off carbon bikes!I sold it to a mate at work who has a pro carbon and he likes them both.I used to get off it feeling like I'd been using a jack hammer despite the longest ride being 67miles.
    It got to the point where I was using the allu Boardman instead of the RT.
    The Canyon on the other hand is what I'd wanted the RT to feel like.It's a bit like comparing a 1970s escort to a 2016 Focus in terms of comfort,for me at least.
    Lynskey R480

  • MikeBrew
    MikeBrew Posts: 814
    edited May 2016
    ibbo68 wrote:
    The compromise with Planet-X is the frame.My mate had an On-One 456C and he had a similar experience with it feeling harsh to ride.

    The foundation of any bike is the frameset, hence it's the part on which you should compromise the least. There of plenty of great deals out there to be had at circa £1000. A 2015 Cannondale Supersix(from Pauls cycles), for instance, can be had for £1000(reduced from £1499, and just a hundred quid more than the PX), giving you a vastly superior frameset. It's 105 5800 groupset is, functionally, every bit as good as Ultegra, albeit a minuscule amount heavier.
    Something like the Cannondale would give you a bike with a frameset worthy of component upgrades over time, though in reality, the bike is as good a machine straight out of the box, as most riders will ever need. viewtopic.php?f=40042&t=13042198


    The ProCarbon, on the other hand, has a dated, generic frameset of uncertain origin, that PX where selling for under £200 as recently as xmas 2015.

    The other thing to bear in mind, is that we're at a point in the year where great deals on many 2016 models are just around the corner. Also, it's not a given that any carbon frame is better than any aluminium one. CAAD10's and 12's, for example, are vastly superior to many entry level carbon offerings - including the PX Pro Carbon.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MikeBrew wrote:


    The ProCarbon on the other hand has a generic frameset of uncertain origin, that PX where selling for under £200 as recently as xmas 2015.

    Not sure what's 'unknown' about it. It's an open mould frame and it comes from China, where a large proportion of CF framsets originate. It's probably one of the most ubiquitous framesets out there, not that there's anything wrong with that.

    Also, selling price is based on many different factors, and is no particular indicator of quality.
  • MikeBrew
    MikeBrew Posts: 814
    I actually said uncertain origin, rather than completely unknown. If you are going to use quotation marks, it's always a goodish idea to quote the word that the person actually used .And, to fair, somewhere in China still sounds like a somewhat uncertain origin to me.
  • ravey1981
    ravey1981 Posts: 1,111
    I had a PX pro carbon and it was a cracking bike, its not the stiffest frameset in the world but that does mean that it was very comfortable over longer distances. At £849 as it is priced now (just checked) it represents decent value for money. Yes its an old frame now but that doesn't mean its no good (thousands of them must have been sold by now and very rarely hear a bad thing about them, apart from bigger riders have found the front end flexy when stacked up with loads of spacers) If I were buying from scratch right now it would be a top contender for my money put it that way. You aren't buying a brand that people will get green with envy over but you get a lot of bike for you're money.You won't find a lighter or better specced bike for that money I would say.

    Ignore Mikebrew, he loves to badmouth PX, in fact its pretty much the reason he joined this site.
  • MikeBrew
    MikeBrew Posts: 814
    edited May 2016
    ravey1981 wrote:

    Ignore Mikebrew, he loves to badmouth PX, in fact its pretty much the reason he joined this site.
    MIkeBrew wrote:
    The foundation of any bike is the frameset, hence it's the part on which you should compromise the least. There of plenty of great deals out there to be had at circa £1000. A 2015 Cannondale Supersix(from Pauls cycles), for instance, can be had for £1000(reduced from £1499, and just a hundred quid more than the PX), giving you a vastly superior frameset.

    So you don't think that the foundation of any bike is the frameset ? Nor that a Supersix frameset, is vastly superior to a PX Pro Carbon frameset ?
    Presumably, you have a problem with the idea that there are other great deals out there for circa £1000, also ? Afterall, these all all things that you advise the OP to ingnore..

    Interesting POV. :shock:
  • diamonddog
    diamonddog Posts: 3,426
    OP, I have had a Pro Carbon for about 4 years now and it is an excellent bike IME.
    I also have a Canyon Ultimate CF SL with SRAM (as does the Pro Carbon) costing well over twice as much, they both ride very well and IMO the Canyon only betters the Pro Carbon by being slightly more comfortable. The comfort difference mainly coming from the wider tyres fitted on the Canyon.
    At the price you stated IMO it is a bargain.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MikeBrew wrote:
    I actually said uncertain origin, rather than completely unknown. If you are going to use quotation marks, it's always a goodish idea to quote the word that the person actually used .And, to fair, somewhere in China still sounds like a somewhat uncertain origin to me.

    So you are 'uncertain' where PX gets the frames from, which is not surprising, as I'm going to guess that you are not involved in their supply chain. Let's assume Planet X is certain about where they get the frames. Ergo, let's not allow your own personal 'uncertainties' get in the way of a logical discussion.
  • ravey1981
    ravey1981 Posts: 1,111
    MikeBrew wrote:
    ravey1981 wrote:

    Ignore Mikebrew, he loves to badmouth PX, in fact its pretty much the reason he joined this site.
    MIkeBrew wrote:
    The foundation of any bike is the frameset, hence it's the part on which you should compromise the least. There of plenty of great deals out there to be had at circa £1000. A 2015 Cannondale Supersix(from Pauls cycles), for instance, can be had for £1000(reduced from £1499, and just a hundred quid more than the PX), giving you a vastly superior frameset.

    So you don't think that the foundation of any bike is the frameset ? Nor that a Supersix frameset, is vastly superior to a PX Pro Carbon frameset ?
    Presumably, you have a problem with the idea that there are other great deals out there for circa £1000, also ? Afterall, these all all things that you advise the OP to ingnore..

    Interesting POV. :shock:

    Any bike with a BB30 bottom bracket is superior to nothing. Every single cannondale owner I know has had a creacky bottom bracket. It would be the last bike I would buy. I wont be replying to you're posts in future as your opinion is worthless to me. Just go away, no one wants you here.
  • MikeBrew
    MikeBrew Posts: 814
    Grow up.
  • edindevon
    edindevon Posts: 325
    ravey1981 wrote:
    At £849 as it is priced now (just checked) it represents decent value for money.

    I think the OP is referring to the version with the full 6800 groupset and this is £899.99 http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXSLPULT6800/planet-x-pro-carbon-shimano-ultegra-6800-road-bike.

    The version that they are selling for £849.99 is Ultegra mix and has a cheaper chaninset and cheaper brakes. http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/EBPXSLP6800V2/planet-x-pro-carbon-shimano-ultegra-6800-mix-road-bike.
  • ravey1981
    ravey1981 Posts: 1,111
    Edindevon wrote:
    ravey1981 wrote:
    At £849 as it is priced now (just checked) it represents decent value for money.

    I think the OP is referring to the version with the full 6800 groupset and this is £899.99 http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXSLPULT6800/planet-x-pro-carbon-shimano-ultegra-6800-road-bike.

    The version that they are selling for £849.99 is Ultegra mix and has a cheaper chaninset and cheaper brakes. http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/EBPXSLP6800V2/planet-x-pro-carbon-shimano-ultegra-6800-mix-road-bike.

    Fair comment, the £899 one is definitely the one to go for. 6800 brakes in particular are brilliant.
  • MikeBrew
    MikeBrew Posts: 814
    http://www.paulscycles.co.uk/m7b65s6p57 ... O-105-2015 viewtopic.php?f=40042&t=13042198
  • MikeBrew
    MikeBrew Posts: 814
    Let's assume Planet X is certain about where they get the frames.

    Absolutely, after searching long and hard for possibly the cheapest China has to offer ... :wink:
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    MikeBrew wrote:
    Let's assume Planet X is certain about where they get the frames.

    Absolutely, after searching long and hard for possibly the cheapest China has to offer ... :wink:


    I think you should tell us what they did to you?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MikeBrew wrote:
    Let's assume Planet X is certain about where they get the frames.

    Absolutely, after searching long and hard for possibly the cheapest China has to offer ... :wink:

    It can't be easy, being as tedious as you, fair play....
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    I know plenty of happy PX pro carbon users. People who race them over ironman distance and they get on with them just fine. To say that all PX frames are harsh is just wrong.
  • MikeBrew
    MikeBrew Posts: 814
    edited May 2016
    Imposter wrote:
    MikeBrew wrote:
    Let's assume Planet X is certain about where they get the frames.

    Absolutely, after searching long and hard for possibly the cheapest China has to offer ... :wink:

    It can't be easy, being as tedious as you, fair play....

    You really shouldn't make it, or take it, so personally. Clearly you feel that you need to score some sort personal point here, by pedantically picking at the periphery of the pertinent points I put forward (Love The alliteration). By tedious you probably mean consistently honest. A Cannondale Six frame is way better than anything PX have to offer. Once you know that - you'll own one.
    Grow a pair, and stop trying to score points at the expense of the "logical discussion" about what bike the OP would be better off with. :roll: Your , very apparent, personal insecurities are contributing in no small part, in taking this thread way off topic.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    MikeBrew wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    MikeBrew wrote:
    Let's assume Planet X is certain about where they get the frames.

    Absolutely, after searching long and hard for possibly the cheapest China has to offer ... :wink:

    It can't be easy, being as tedious as you, fair play....

    You really shouldn't make it, or take it, so personally. Clearly you feel that you need to score some sort personal point here. By tedious you probably mean consistently honest. A Cannondale Six frame is way better than anything PX have to offer. You know that - you own one.
    Grow a pair, and stop trying to score points at the expense of the "logical discussion" about what bike the OP would be better off with. :roll: Your , very apparent, personal insecurities are contributing in no small part, in taking this thread way off topic.

    er, I don't own a Cannondale of any sort. Never have. Weirdo. Good luck with the trolling - I'm out.
  • MikeBrew
    MikeBrew Posts: 814
    so long child
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    you off then?
    Must be another past time out there for you. try golf, you'd fit right in.
  • bondurant
    bondurant Posts: 858
    No, I think Imposter means that you're boring.

    Come on Mike. Almost everyone who has been on here a while knows that you are a recurrent troll who uses this forum to target superstar component's direct, sell it cheap competition.

    The mask slips, your delightful personality shines through, and you insult someone personally enough to get a ban. And back you come. Again and again.

    So yes, tedious is the word.
  • MikeBrew
    MikeBrew Posts: 814
    edited May 2016
    Aye up, trolls R us has just dropped off another minibus-full... So gentlemen, exactly what do your no doubt erudite and urbane observations add to the OP's question ? :roll: BTW where and when did superstar start selling frames ? Let alone full bikes ?
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    Surprised you actually get the time to ride a bike. You do have a bike, do you?
  • MikeBrew
    MikeBrew Posts: 814
    edited May 2016
    :roll: I'll leave you knuckle draggers to your troll fest...I can't compete
  • bondurant
    bondurant Posts: 858
    Great point Mike. But since you care about making them look bad, it doesn't really matter what you pick on, does it?

    They sell wheels too. Rounder and better tensioned than the ones Superstar punt out, but wheels nevertheless.

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