Planet X EC 130, anyone got one?
Kellee999
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Hi,
I'm interested in the Planet X EC 130, has anybody actually got one that can give me me their thoughts on it please?
Thanks
I'm interested in the Planet X EC 130, has anybody actually got one that can give me me their thoughts on it please?
Thanks
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Bad time to asking : the SRAM FORCE version was £1299 yesterday - 24 hours only. :idea: Not heard any real life reports on that model number, though I do hear good things about the -only very slightly less imaginatively named- ABC123.........
The EC130-E Rivet Rider is actually the moniker used by a modified Hercules communications aircraft. Sounds like someone at PX was left alone with Google at ten to five on a Friday, tasked with coming up with an original and exciting name for their latest container full of cheap tat from China....
Still, it's the thought that counts.... :roll:
Over priced, generic Chinese frames with plagiarized names, whats not to like ?
http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ec-130e.htm0 -
MikeBrew wrote:Bad time to asking : the SRAM FORCE version was £1299 yesterday - 24 hours only. :idea: Not heard any real life reports on that model number, though I do hear good things about the -only very slightly less imaginatively named- ABC123.........
The EC130-E Rivet Rider is actually the moniker used by a modified Hercules communications aircraft. Sounds like someone at PX was left alone with Google at ten to five on a Friday, tasked with coming up with an original and exciting name for their latest container full of cheap tat from China....
Still, it's the thought that counts.... :roll:
Over priced, generic Chinese frames with plagiarized names, whats not to like ?
http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ec-130e.htm
So is the answer to OP's question no then?0 -
I know a couple of guys who ride them as sponsored bikes..... not big fans. One of them trains in black kit on his old bike instead!0
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Poptart242 wrote:I know a couple of guys who ride them as sponsored bikes..... not big fans. One of them trains in black kit on his old bike instead!
Thanks for that, don't suppose you could ask your friends for a little more detail?
I don't want to get into a discussion on the rights and wrongs of Planet X just honest appraisals of this bike from people who've actually used them!0 -
Not got one of those but I'm very happy with my three PX bikes. Mr Brew seems to have a bee in his bonnet with PX so I'd take a pinch of salt to go with his comments.0
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cougie wrote:Not got one of those but I'm very happy with my three PX bikes. Mr Brew seems to have a bee in his bonnet with PX so I'd take a pinch of salt to go with his comments.
Indeed. You're happy, ergo all their customers MUST be happy, and all their models MUST be great. I feel so foolish - if only I'd known sooner that Cougie is happy. Damn and blast that confounded, buzzy bee of mine :roll:
Be a dear and pass the SAXA would you...
kellee999 wrote:
Thanks for that, don't suppose you could ask your friends for a little more detail?Poptart242 wrote:I know a couple of guys who ride them as sponsored bikes..... not big fans. One of them trains in black kit on his old bike instead!
I don't want to get into a discussion on the rights and wrongs of Planet X just honest appraisals of this bike from people who've actually used them!
OP, good luck with getting a sponsored rider to publicly tell you why he doesn't rate his ride. And good luck with finding anyone who's actually parted with money for one. I'm 50/50 over which of those two eventualities is the least likely
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Kellee999 wrote:Poptart242 wrote:I know a couple of guys who ride them as sponsored bikes..... not big fans. One of them trains in black kit on his old bike instead!
Thanks for that, don't suppose you could ask your friends for a little more detail?
I don't want to get into a discussion on the rights and wrongs of Planet X just honest appraisals of this bike from people who've actually used them!
Well, he wants a very light bike, or at least a very stiff one...it's neither.0 -
MikeBrew is consistently anti PX for some reason and likes a dig at those who call this out.. sad really.0
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karve wrote:MikeBrew is consistently anti PX for some reason and likes a dig at those who call this out.. sad really.
Fair enough. Next time I see someone contemplating buying a product that is not the best that they could get for their budget, I'll say nowt. Come to think of it though - isn't this a buying advice forum or am I missing something ? And isn't good buying advice about honest opinion's ? Some people get offended purely because they already own an item from the company in question, and seem to feel that any advice that, in any way, is at odds with their buying decision MUST be wrong. It's as if they take it as a personal affront, that is not just "sad really", it's really sad.... :idea:
BTW this thread is specifically about the EC130 - what ever PX you have, I'm guessing that it's not one of those.0 -
whats wrong with £1299 for aero carbon full sram force decent wheels and finishing kit that weighs in at 7.3 kilo ? I know the deal was for 24 hours only but hang in there and it will happen again , if not cheaper .0
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stronginthesun wrote:whats wrong with £1299 for aero carbon full sram force decent wheels and finishing kit that weighs in at 7.3 kilo ? I know the deal was for 24 hours only but hang in there and it will happen again , if not cheaper .
It appears that the only way to definitively answer that involves the use of your debit or credit card. It might turn out to be a superb machine, but it does rather look as though you are going to have to take the plunge to find out. The information doesn't appear to be out there.0 -
MikeBrew wrote:karve wrote:MikeBrew is consistently anti PX for some reason and likes a dig at those who call this out.. sad really.
Fair enough. Next time I see someone contemplating buying a product that is not the best that they could get for their budget, I'll say nowt. Come to think of it though - isn't this a buying advice forum or am I missing something ? And isn't good buying advice about honest opinion's ? Some people get offended purely because they already own an item from the company in question, and seem to feel that any advice that, in any way, is at odds with their buying decision MUST be wrong. It's as if they take it as a personal affront, that is not just "sad really", it's really sad.... :idea:
BTW this thread is specifically about the EC130 - what ever PX you have, I'm guessing that it's not one of those.
Well... its first public mag review came out last month... It just got a best in test against a BMC, SPEC,SCOTT and RIBBLE Aero bikes at the same +≤≥£2000 price point. The customer reviews look good too. Its also light and stiff so whoever said it wasnt .... was just bullshitting the OP.
As OP was asking, they wanted real world opinions. Just because it's not a big name that charges a bomb to real world customers just to get their name on free tour bikes, doesn't make it a wet lettuce.0 -
And herein lies the problem with buying a Planet X. It's a modern open mould carbon frame with a decent build, and if that frame is OK, as the review is comparing whole bikes, it should perform well. But charging £2000 for 5 minutes then £1300 then £1500 then whatever; doesn't matter what you paid you always feel in a few weeks there will be another promotion that's cheaper or better specced. It means they have no image and hence no resale value. It's OK if you want to keep it for a long time, but only now are reviews coming out so you might have a chance of knowing it's worth keeping when you buy it. The N2A had some major issues for example, which the first buyers as guinea pigs found out. And as they change models so frequently, it probably won't be available much longer; so the cycle of £2000 for the top model then reductions starts again.0
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super_davo wrote:And herein lies the problem with buying a Planet X. It's a modern open mould carbon frame with a decent build, and if that frame is OK, as the review is comparing whole bikes, it should perform well. But charging £2000 for 5 minutes then £1300 then £1500 then whatever; doesn't matter what you paid you always feel in a few weeks there will be another promotion that's cheaper or better specced. It means they have no image and hence no resale value. It's OK if you want to keep it for a long time, but only now are reviews coming out so you might have a chance of knowing it's worth keeping when you buy it. The N2A had some major issues for example, which the first buyers as guinea pigs found out. And as they change models so frequently, it probably won't be available much longer; so the cycle of £2000 for the top model then reductions starts again.
One would argue that Ryanair has done the same for decades...left the forum March 20230 -
rickeverett wrote:MikeBrew wrote:karve wrote:MikeBrew is consistently anti PX for some reason and likes a dig at those who call this out.. sad really.
Fair enough. Next time I see someone contemplating buying a product that is not the best that they could get for their budget, I'll say nowt. Come to think of it though - isn't this a buying advice forum or am I missing something ? And isn't good buying advice about honest opinion's ? Some people get offended purely because they already own an item from the company in question, and seem to feel that any advice that, in any way, is at odds with their buying decision MUST be wrong. It's as if they take it as a personal affront, that is not just "sad really", it's really sad.... :idea:
BTW this thread is specifically about the EC130 - what ever PX you have, I'm guessing that it's not one of those.
Well... its first public mag review came out last month... It just got a best in test against a BMC, SPEC,SCOTT and RIBBLE Aero bikes at the same +≤≥£2000 price point. The customer reviews look good too. Its also light and stiff so whoever said it wasnt .... was just bullshitting the OP.
Care to share the name of the mag?
Also came across this frame last week but it's hard to find much on it.
Saying that, think I'll be getting their Viner Mitus 0.6 frameset aka RT90/HongFu FM066 SL.0 -
ugo.santalucia wrote:super_davo wrote:And herein lies the problem with buying a Planet X. It's a modern open mould carbon frame with a decent build, and if that frame is OK, as the review is comparing whole bikes, it should perform well. But charging £2000 for 5 minutes then £1300 then £1500 then whatever; doesn't matter what you paid you always feel in a few weeks there will be another promotion that's cheaper or better specced. It means they have no image and hence no resale value. It's OK if you want to keep it for a long time, but only now are reviews coming out so you might have a chance of knowing it's worth keeping when you buy it. The N2A had some major issues for example, which the first buyers as guinea pigs found out. And as they change models so frequently, it probably won't be available much longer; so the cycle of £2000 for the top model then reductions starts again.
One would argue that Ryanair has done the same for decades...
Luckily the wings don't fall off of Ryan air jets in the way that the rear wheels fell out of the PLanet X N2A, so the comparison might not be terribly valid............. 0 -
Defects in carbon frames can happen on any bike, even from the top names like Giant and Canyon.
If it's just one bike that you've heard of going bad then I would'nt let that worry you.
Planet X bikes do nothing for me, they don't excite me and look cheap, for 2k that means a lot. for 2k they're many great bikes out there rather than the Chinese ones, but that's maybe the way it's going now.0 -
cantaloupe wrote:Defects in carbon frames can happen on any bike, even from the top names like Giant and Canyon.
If it's just one bike that you've heard of going bad then I would'nt let that worry you.
Planet X bikes do nothing for me, they don't excite me and look cheap, for 2k that means a lot. for 2k they're many great bikes out there rather than the Chinese ones, but that's maybe the way it's going now.
They're all 'Chinese' .. infact most R&D occurs in Asia in factories selling frames and creating frames for the most know brands in the world. All this European heritage "carbon frame made by an Italian farmer" crap is just fantasy. In all honesty if it rides good, it doesn't matter what it says on the tube anymore.
The Viner minus frame they have is great, I'm currently tootling around on the RT90 one. It's open moulded but brands can specify the carbon material and layup, hence why planetx/Viner have two versions. So far I have been very very happy with the frame. It does everything you ask of a good carbon frame. Stiff, comfortable, compliant all at 900g.
Looks like the EC130 however isn't open mould or atleast isn't a public available one as it's just not around.on any outlets over there. Believe it or not, planet x do have a r&d and design team. !?
I just don't think some people like knowing thethereframes and bikes out there equally if not better than their big name ride.0 -
iPete wrote:rickeverett wrote:MikeBrew wrote:karve wrote:MikeBrew is consistently anti PX for some reason and likes a dig at those who call this out.. sad really.
Fair enough. Next time I see someone contemplating buying a product that is not the best that they could get for their budget, I'll say nowt. Come to think of it though - isn't this a buying advice forum or am I missing something ? And isn't good buying advice about honest opinion's ? Some people get offended purely because they already own an item from the company in question, and seem to feel that any advice that, in any way, is at odds with their buying decision MUST be wrong. It's as if they take it as a personal affront, that is not just "sad really", it's really sad.... :idea:
BTW this thread is specifically about the EC130 - what ever PX you have, I'm guessing that it's not one of those.
Well... its first public mag review came out last month... It just got a best in test against a BMC, SPEC,SCOTT and RIBBLE Aero bikes at the same +≤≥£2000 price point. The customer reviews look good too. Its also light and stiff so whoever said it wasnt .... was just bullshitting the OP.
Care to share the name of the mag?
Also came across this frame last week but it's hard to find much on it.
Saying that, think I'll be getting their Viner Mitus 0.6 frameset aka RT90/HongFu FM066 SL.
Cycling Active I think.
As a side note I have a RT90 this summer. Great frame. I have been very happy with is. light, stiff and comfortable. it is also pretty dam light. The 90 and Mitus 6 are the same carbon and layup but the 80 is a different layup.
It's the FM066 mould yes, but isn't the same layups as the factory and the fork is also different.0 -
Thanks. Have only read good things about it and at 650g lighter than my current allu setup, should be a nice upgrade. t's hard to find a decent frameset still using BSA BBs that's good enough for road racing.0
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I was in PX the other day and the EC130 looks really good in the flesh.0
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Ive been riding a viner mitus I built from frame up since October and love it, ive covered 3700 miles on it so far.
Ive got a small frame and my build wieghs in at 7kg :-D its stiff, responsive, great going uphills I couldnt be more happy and it looks and is specced way better than most bikes you see for the same money I built it for :-P
i would love a go on an EC130 though
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Wish they had the selcof Aero bars as shown in this example!...
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hello everyone. i have been riding the new ec-130 for the last 2 weeks. this is my opinion for this bike. i use the small size so everything i write concerns the small frame. the bike itself is really well made, and of high quality. the frame is excellent , really stiff when pedaling and very very comfortable at the same time. it is also a very fast bike. there are three issues though. though it is a small frame it does not use 650c wheels but 700c and the result is that my foot rubs the front wheel when cornening. the second issue is that in potholes the chain hits the frame and that can cause scratches or even a small brake (very unlikely but if you here the sound of the impact you'll be concerned as well)
the third issue (this has happened only once) , it uses a 172.5mm chainset and when i corner my feet also rub the road. i think that a smaller one would fit perfectly fine. other than these 3 issues the bike is a charm. it is beautiful , high quality in every single beat and lightweight. if you order it, change the handlebar to 38 , cause even the 42 is very big. hope this helps.0 -
tilemachos just a bit of info for you about your slight issues.
1 All bikes will do this if the steering is turned acutely when pedalling, it is called toe overlap, best avoided.
2 Chain slap is normal if you keep hitting pot holes, best avoid them.
3 You need to make sure your pedal on the turning side is at the top of its stroke, problem solved.
So to sum up the bike has no issues it's rider technique causing your problems, sorry not a dig at you.0 -
not a problem mate. thanks for your observations. non of these 3 (let me say) flaws, occur in my focus road bike and on my canyon one. the chain does not hit the frame , nor does my foot scrub the road, even when i ride in the wrong way. i believe that the 172,5mm should rather be like 169 (is it called q factor?). toe overlap in non existent (in fact i familiarized myself to this term after riding the planet x) . that is why i thought of them as ''issues''. but if you say that they are normal than it is even better. i'm very glad that my bike is flawless.
where i live you literally can't ride more than 5 meters without falling into a pothole. if you try to avoid one you'll most likely fall into another. the roads are literally full of them. the only roads i can ride, without a pothole, are high speed highways.
i'm rather new to the cycling world and all the above bikes are old and given to me by relatives. again , thank you very much for your input.0 -
I have toe overlap on my Canyon and PX bikes (XS & SM frames), even with shorter cranks ie 165mm it would still occur but I have never considered it an issue.
The EC130 looks a lovely bike enjoy your rides.0 -
Thanks for the feedback.
It's funny, someone on another thread said the quality was rubbish compared with other aero framesets but then went silent when asked if they'd seen one.0
