Easy jet and bike boxes

puffingbilly

Just packed my bike box ready for my Majorca training camp and used the spare space for other stuff like helmet, gels, socks and still well under the 32kg weight limit. Just noticed on their web site that they don't allow other stuff to be put in the box.

Has any one been caught out by this?

ddraver

Never, done it loads of times...I'd play the game and keep it to "gear" or stuff you re willing to lose or at least stuff that can't go in hand luggage (washbag for example) but no I've never been checked.

If you think about it they'd have to check at the check in desk anyway, when you take it to outsized baggage it could be any for any airline...

Flâneur

never, not with any sport bag be it ski, bike, golf, surf. They don't care enough, maybe if it was bulging in a crazy way.

buckmulligan

Same here.

I travelled with a bike box on EasyJet last summer, filled it up with all sorts including helmet, shoes, rucksack full of nutrition & clothes etc. I'm pretty sure it was over the weight limit too, but no-one cared. As ddraver says, once you're past check-in, you're in the clear.

fenix

I'd be wary of going over the limit - but packing it with other kit should be fine. Especially 'soft kit'. You dont want anything heavy or hard rattling around inside your bike box. And no CO2 either.

laurentian

I have done this too with Easy Jet - not a problem. As I was hand luggage only, I put all of my cycling kit (jerseys, bibs, shoes, tools) in the box. I was under the impression (quite possibly wrongly) that items related to cycling were permitted anyway

Vslowpace

As has been mentioned you can get away with putting kit and tools in there, but they will take out CO2 and aerosols (GT85 etc)

ddraver

(I ve never tried an aerosol but I ve never had a CO2 cartridge taken out. But again, I'm prepared to lose them if I try)

fenix

CO2 should be safe - they have CO2 on all of the life vests under the seats anyway - but they aren't keen on having them in the hold.

After Ironman Nice I'm sure the baggage people set themselves up for the Xmas party off the proceeds of the hundreds of co2 cartridges they confiscate.

puffingbilly

Cheers all, I will the leave the CO2 behind and take a pump, I guess if I get pulled up ill just wear 6 pairs of shorts and jerseys and put my helmet on my head!

homers_double

We travelled on Ryanair and the only thing pulled was a Co2 cannister out of one of our saddle bags (not mine I hasten to add) during the oversized luggage scan.

bernithebiker

I wrap clothing around my bike, so technically it's 'packaging'!!

(By the way, it's absolutely p*ssing it down in Majorca today!)

puffingbilly

Thanks, I will use my Castelli Gabba as extra packaging...:)

Hope its warm rain?

FatTed

Air NZ specifically say it is OK to take Co2 cartridges, http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/dangerous-goods as does Easy Jet
http://www.easyjet.com/en/terms-and-con ... rous-goods and British Airways https://www.britishairways.com/cms/glob ... s_List.pdf
Although I have had them removed at Toulouse airport.

fenix

Well it's the oversized baggage checkers that ask for them and they don't work for any specific airline.

You could try printing out the rules if you want.

AK_jnr

I put wd40 and degreaser in my box and have never had it removed. Woops. I just make sure it is under the limit. Had to get mine down to under 22kg for a BA flight last year. That was a bit tougher!

lvquestpaddler

Found this thread on a google search and wondered if anybody else has had anything to report- positive and negative? It's a curious stance Easyjet take allowing 32kg but stating no other items, especially for tourers/bikepackers who have about 20kg to play with...maybe it's to encourage you to buy hold luggage and sports equipment allowance so they get more money for the same (weight)kit? But whereas it's easy to take what you need for a tour and ditch the box at the airport, you wouldn't want to do the same with a bag or suitcase anyway...
I'm booked to Tenerife in April from Edinburgh, but have friends to stay with who are picking me up from TFS and will store my bike box for the stay. I was wanting to fill the box with usual bike clothing/helmet/tools and spares kit (plus any liquids). In my hand luggage take some bike/walk touring kit- ie non biking clothes and a summer bag/bivvi/+tarp etc to keep my options open for day trips based from theirs or a multiday island tour....(they have a toddler now and based there for 2 weeks may be hectic lol!!)
Packing the bike box with soft items seems so sensible to protect the bike and the irony is you would struggle to hit 32kg, yet you can take a kayak/canoe up to 430cm which could easily get to 32kg (that's without trying to hide split paddles/PFD's/spraysdecks etc inside !!)

pilot_pete

Fenix wrote:

CO2 should be safe - they have CO2 on all of the life vests under the seats anyway - but they aren't keen on having them in the hold.

Let me help you out there. Any gas canisters come under the Dangerous Goods Regulations. The gas canisters that you refer to in life jackets fall into the 'exempt' category as they are required to ensure that the aircraft meets the minimum safety requirement in the eventually of a landing on water (one per passenger!)

The CO2 canisters stowed in/on your bike to help you in the unfortunate circumstance of a puncture are not required to meet the minimum safety standards as laid down by ICAO (the international civil avaiation organisation) and thus are not EXEMPT.

You may feel this pedantic, but the canisters on a life jacket have gone through the testing procedure to ensure they comply with the required minimum standards to be part of the essential aircraft equipment. Your 'puncture' repair CO2 canisters have not, therefore they cannot be deemed to have met the minimum required standards. Feel free to argue the toss based on appearance, but I suspect you will get nowhere unless you are willing to pay for the testing...

PP

p.s. If you can't guess my occupation from my nick, then you will assume I am just sprouting crap from an uninformed position...;-)

navrig2

Earlier this year a group of us went to Mallorca. We hired bikes but took everything else. We had one communal case and I think there was about 6 CO2 cannisters present despite my efforts to keep the numbers down. All were present we got there and most went home again.

This was RyanAir rather than EasyJet - the regulations are the same.

Beatmaker

Conversely I had my C02 canisters confiscated at Manchester airport by stgaff manning the oversize baggage desk. i was asked if I had C02, I hadn't actually thought about it so just admitted I had and they took the canisters off me. I always pack a pump instead now.

pilot_pete

Navrig2 wrote:

Earlier this year a group of us went to Mallorca. We hired bikes but took everything else. We had one communal case and I think there was about 6 CO2 cannisters present despite my efforts to keep the numbers down. All were present we got there and most went home again.

This was RyanAir rather than EasyJet - the regulations are the same.

The regulations are indeed the same, however consistentcy from airport security officers even at the same airport cannot be guaranteed, let alone across different airports! :roll:

A bunch of us recently went away with our bikes, some had canisters removed, others didn't...

PP

lvquestpaddler

Anything about actual luggage/check in issues anyone? (Should have started a new thread there's a lot of residual gas in this one....lol)

cgfw201

I had my stash of 6 CO2 canisters whittled down to 2 at Stansted in September. Got taken into the oversized baggage room and had to watch a bloke painfully take everything out and put it all back in the wrong way round as I was helplessly on the other side of the glass.

Have had mixed luck with CO2 in hand luggage and main luggage. Just seems to be whatever mood the person is in at the time. Most of the time you can take plenty in either.

fenix

Just take a pump. Much cheaper in the long run and won't get confiscated. You don't want your carefully packed bag messed up by people not knowing how to pack bikes.

homers_double

Can't you just buy CO2 canisters when you arrive?

cougie

Well you could but you'd have to leave them behind. Seriously unless you're racing a pump is a better bet.

thegreatdivide

I put a couple of canisters in a side pocked of my hold luggage and they're always there when I get to my destination and on my return.

paulbnix

I decided not to take a co2 cylinder on my last trip to Mallorca.
I bought one there 2.5 euros so a bit dearer.
Then had the pleasure of having to use it on the last day - perfect :-)

slowbike

Seems like a daft regulation - I suspect a lot of the CO2 canisters are transported by aircraft to get them to their retail destination anyway ...
But then not all CO2 canisters are equal - so why take the chance - ban the lot ...

I suppose the ultimate q is - what is likely to happen if a canister is punctured when not attached to it's designed fitting ... would they become a gas propelled missile? I'd doubt there'd be enough gas in there to exit the case - even a material one - without even worrying about the side of the aircraft ...

turbo1191

I've recently flown with ryanair and easyjet and on both occasions i was asked 'the rough weight' of my bike bag at check-in on both airlines, had it full with clothes, helmet, shoes etc, it wasn't weighed once! :shock:

lvquestpaddler

Cheers turbo1191....at last an answer....! I might take a chance and load up and plead ignorance if questioned. Why pay £50 for 20kg of clothes when for £84 I can take my bike and as much kit as I can fit in that and in my cabin luggage. So £34 for having your own bike is a lot less than £200 for hiring the most basic model when out there. Just gotta decide which bike is getting a holiday....and what biking I'm more likely to do (at the moment leaning to a rigid road converted mtb plus spare off road tyres for some variety....but I really want to take the road bike too...)