Another rider passes away

redvision

RIP Daan Myngheer.

My thoughts are with his family and friends.

Second terrible loss to cycling in as many days.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/35914893

salsiccia1

Really sad.

Bloody hell, what a terrible few days for cycling.

The_Boy

Very sad news.

Friend from school dropped dead from a heart attack playing 5-a-sides at around the same age. My thoughts go out to all his nearest and dearest.

ddraver

Hmm, this is nothing but sad

Omar Little

Sad news RIP

mr_poll

Another terrible story - even worse when I saw Vayer tweet about whether his heart problems had been caused by taking/abusing caffeine.

Richmond Racer 2

mr_poll wrote:

Another terrible story - even worse when I saw Vayer tweet about whether his heart problems had been caused by taking/abusing caffeine.

I was about to type something rude, but I'll have to make do with a hand gesture instead

Shadowrider

Heartbreaking, I lost a friend to a heart attack at a very similar age, no-one ever thinks about the heart when you are so young or fit. Please take time to get checked out.

GGBiker

I do have to question this, it seems very unlikely that a 22 year old would have a heart attack, let alone an extremely healthy and fit one. Cardiac arrhythmia and arrest seems more likely, was there a suggestion that he was having problems related to caffeine abuse (if so this would likely be an arrhythmia ). RIP

ddraver

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... m-the-dead

Richmond Racer 2

GGBiker wrote:

I do have to question this, it seems very unlikely that a 22 year old would have a heart attack, let alone an extremely healthy and fit one. Cardiac arrhythmia and arrest seems more likely, was there a suggestion that he was having problems related to caffeine abuse (if so this would likely be an arrhythmia ). RIP

Depends whether you are an avid follower of media whore Vayer

Otherwise...no.

And regrettably there are instances of under-30s - even athletes - having heart attacks. It is not a one-in-a-billion occurrence.

RichN95.

Richmond Racer 2 wrote:

GGBiker wrote:

I do have to question this, it seems very unlikely that a 22 year old would have a heart attack, let alone an extremely healthy and fit one. Cardiac arrhythmia and arrest seems more likely, was there a suggestion that he was having problems related to caffeine abuse (if so this would likely be an arrhythmia ). RIP

Depends whether you are an avid follower of media whore Vayer

Otherwise...no.

And regrettably there are instances of under-30s - even athletes - having heart attacks. It is not a one-in-a-billion occurrence.

Twelve people under 30 die like this every week in Britain alone.

GGBiker

12 under 30s per week? Do you have a source for that? If that is true I would imagine a high proportion are due to underlying chronic medical problems or drug induced (legal or otherwise)

GGBiker

GGBiker wrote:

12 under 30s per week? Do you have a source for that? If that is true I would imagine a high proportion are due to underlying chronic medical problems or drug induced (legal or otherwise). The media often seem to use "heart attack" to mean any cardiac cause of death.

GGBiker

ddraver wrote:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/05/bringing-fabrice-back-from-the-dead

I thought he had a cardiac arrest not a heart attack?the article even mentions a seizure so not much useful information there.

RichN95.

GGBiker wrote:

12 under 30s per week? Do you have a source for that? If that is true I would imagine a high proportion are due to underlying chronic medical problems or drug induced (legal or otherwise)

Certainly: http://www.c-r-y.org.uk/

It only says 'young' rather than my 'under 30'. And it specifies undiagnosed heart defects - so no drugs.

ddraver

I can't decide if you re being incredibly anal about medical terminology or if you re incredibly uninformed...

mr_poll

Now that Rich has given a source for his post can you do the same for this please

GGBiker wrote:

was there a suggestion that he was having problems related to caffeine abuse

If all you can come up with Vayers crass tweet, then you might want to bear in mind someone died and spreading unsubstantiated gossip is also a pretty crass thing to do.

GGBiker

GGBiker wrote:

ddraver wrote:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/05/bringing-fabrice-back-from-the-dead

I thought he had a cardiac arrest not a heart attack?the article even mentions a seizure so not much useful information there.

Thanks, so that's nothing to do with heart attacks. "Undiagnosed heart conditions" covers anything that could possibly be wrong with a heart, a "heart attack" is a specific problem caused by lack of oxygen supply to the heart muscle due to a narrowing of the coronary arteries usually by deposition of fatty matter described as atheroma in the vessels. This is usually a result of either genetics and/or lifestyle (poor diet, overweight/obesity, smoking, lack of exercise, alcohol) so to succumb to this at the age of 22 is extremely rare to the point of being unheard of.

GGBiker

mr_poll wrote:

Now that Rich has given a source for his post can you do the same for this please

GGBiker wrote:

was there a suggestion that he was having problems related to caffeine abuse

If all you can come up with Vayers crass tweet, then you might want to bear in mind someone died and spreading unsubstantiated gossip is also a pretty crass thing to do.

I have no idea who Vayer is, but an earlier poster (Mr poll) mentioned that this rider may have had a cardiac problem related to caffeine - beyond that I have no comment or opinion.

GGBiker

ddraver wrote:

I can't decide if you re being incredibly anal about medical terminology or if you re incredibly uninformed...

Not sure if this directed at my post or not but describing anything that can go wrong with a heart as a "heart attack" is certainly uninformed.

The_Boy

GGBiker wrote:

mr_poll wrote:

Now that Rich has given a source for his post can you do the same for this please

GGBiker wrote:

was there a suggestion that he was having problems related to caffeine abuse

If all you can come up with Vayers crass tweet, then you might want to bear in mind someone died and spreading unsubstantiated gossip is also a pretty crass thing to do.

I have no idea who Vayer is, but an earlier poster (Mr poll) mentioned that this rider may have had a cardiac problem related to caffeine - beyond that I have no comment or opinion.

Mr poll also makes mention of Vayer in the very same post you refer to.

The_Boy

GGBiker wrote:

GGBiker wrote:

ddraver wrote:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/05/bringing-fabrice-back-from-the-dead

I thought he had a cardiac arrest not a heart attack?the article even mentions a seizure so not much useful information there.

Thanks, so that's nothing to do with heart attacks. "Undiagnosed heart conditions" covers anything that could possibly be wrong with a heart, a "heart attack" is a specific problem caused by lack of oxygen supply to the heart muscle due to a narrowing of the coronary arteries usually by deposition of fatty matter described as atheroma in the vessels. This is usually a result of either genetics and/or lifestyle (poor diet, overweight/obesity, smoking, lack of exercise, alcohol) so to succumb to this at the age of 22 is extremely rare to the point of being unheard of.

On the bolded part, something being rare doesn't mean it isn't so.

Perhaps you could explain to the class you motivation in this particular line of pedantry?

ddraver

GGBiker wrote:

GGBiker wrote:

ddraver wrote:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/05/bringing-fabrice-back-from-the-dead

I thought he had a cardiac arrest not a heart attack?the article even mentions a seizure so not much useful information there.

Thanks, so that's nothing to do with heart attacks. "Undiagnosed heart conditions" covers anything that could possibly be wrong with a heart, a "heart attack" is a specific problem caused by lack of oxygen supply to the heart muscle due to a narrowing of the coronary arteries usually by deposition of fatty matter described as atheroma in the vessels. This is usually a result of either genetics and/or lifestyle (poor diet, overweight/obesity, smoking, lack of exercise, alcohol) so to succumb to this at the age of 22 is extremely rare to the point of being unheard of.

...you're now responding to your own posts...

Do you want to start again? (hint - try asking politely this time)

GGBiker

Somewhat taken aback by the unnecessary aggression on display in this thread, perhaps some people need to get out on their bikes and burn some of that off....

ddraver

When you act like a d1ck, people tend to respond to you like d1cks...

dish_dash

ddraver wrote:

When you act like a d1ck, people tend to respond to you like d1cks...

:shock:

salsiccia1

Easy now, possibly time to remember why this thread exists...

ddraver

Fair point Salsi.