Dubai *spoilers*
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Cavendish finished etcFckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0
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Finally.. some more racing. Can't believe I was actually looking forward to the Dubai tour. Nice top 10 for Chris Opie, good to see0
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Was a really good sprint.
Cav was boxed in by Saxo coming up the side. But I look forward to the writing off of him.0 -
You can probably say today was simply bad positioning from Cav. Let's see some more ahead of writing him off, he definitely showed more pace than the rest and didn't lose any ground on Kittel in the sprint.0
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You could...but it's funny how the top sprinter of the day never seems to get boxed in isnt it...
(trying to be positive about Cav for the last few years hasnt worked so i'm going to try being a negative nancy instead)We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Joelsim wrote:ddraver wrote:You could...but it's funny how the top sprinter of the day never seems to get boxed in isnt it...
(trying to be positive about Cav for the last few years hasnt worked so i'm going to try being a negative nancy instead)
Very true
He didn't really look boxed in to be honest, though I only saw th very brief highlights.0 -
Im a big fan of Cav, but Kittel is just a faster sprinter. Cav could probably read the sprint better, and with time his team could lead him out better, but Kittel is a power horse, and doesnt always need such a good train.Cube Attain SL Disc
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When kittel is on form like 2014 I think he's unstoppable just a big power machine, and don't think anyone is better than him, but cav can read the sprints better but needs the right lead out not like his days when he could just keep jumping the wheels in the last 500m and win. But am a big cav and not bad 2nd in his first race.0
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Dav1d1 wrote:When kittel is on form like 2014 I think he's unstoppable just a big power machine, and don't think anyone is better than him, but cav can read the sprints better but needs the right lead out not like his days when he could just keep jumping the wheels in the last 500m and win. But am a big cav and not bad 2nd in his first race.
Gaviria will give Kittel a run for his money.0 -
Joelsim wrote:Dav1d1 wrote:When kittel is on form like 2014 I think he's unstoppable just a big power machine, and don't think anyone is better than him, but cav can read the sprints better but needs the right lead out not like his days when he could just keep jumping the wheels in the last 500m and win. But am a big cav and not bad 2nd in his first race.
Gaviria will give Kittel a run for his money.
Caleb Ewan looks really good too. I dont think anyone can get as low as he can without worrying about crashing head first. To go that low while putting out 1500 watts is impressiveCube Attain SL Disc
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Worth having a squint at Friebe's tweet discussion with a few of us today re Cav
He's been on the boards for the last few months with the TP guys, pushing massive gears. Too soon to switch to the jump needed to beat Kittel right now0 -
ddraver wrote:You could...but it's funny how the top sprinter of the day never seems to get boxed in isnt it...
(trying to be positive about Cav for the last few years hasnt worked so i'm going to try being a negative nancy instead)
ummm. Not true.0 -
ddraver wrote:You could...but it's funny how the top sprinter of the day never seems to get boxed in isnt it...
(trying to be positive about Cav for the last few years hasnt worked so i'm going to try being a negative nancy instead)
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Kittel, Cav, Greipel, Kristoff, Bouhanni, Vivianni................should be a good year
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Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Worth having a squint at Friebe's tweet discussion with a few of us today re Cav
He's been on the boards for the last few months with the TP guys, pushing massive gears. Too soon to switch to the jump needed to beat Kittel right now
True. He has been on the boards. Add that to the fact he isn't as fast as Kittel and there's your answer.
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Joelsim wrote:Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Worth having a squint at Friebe's tweet discussion with a few of us today re Cav
He's been on the boards for the last few months with the TP guys, pushing massive gears. Too soon to switch to the jump needed to beat Kittel right now
True. He has been on the boards. Add that to the fact he isn't as fast as Kittel and there's your answer.
GET OUT
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I hate the whole "Cav's finished" thing. Kittel is an animal, he has traded off the ability to get over climbs for the ability to wind it up for 300m and just smash everyone in a different way to what Cav used to do. To be honest I can't see Ewan or Gaviria holding a candle to him in a drag race, there will be plenty of opportunities for them though when there is a bit more difficulty before the last 5km or so..0
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Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Worth having a squint at Friebe's tweet discussion with a few of us today re Cav
He's been on the boards for the last few months with the TP guys, pushing massive gears. Too soon to switch to the jump needed to beat Kittel right now
'Pushing massive gears', really? Interesting, where did you see, hear that?0 -
Perfect, armchair lead out for Kittel.
Already equals last years win total.
Large gears the all round order of the day atm on the track."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
inseine wrote:Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Worth having a squint at Friebe's tweet discussion with a few of us today re Cav
He's been on the boards for the last few months with the TP guys, pushing massive gears. Too soon to switch to the jump needed to beat Kittel right now
'Pushing massive gears', really? Interesting, where did you see, hear that?
1. It's track. It's pursuiting. That's what's involved. You have 1 gear and it's going to be a massive one.
2. As above, I refer you to Friebe's tweets today0 -
Richmond Racer 2 wrote:inseine wrote:Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Worth having a squint at Friebe's tweet discussion with a few of us today re Cav
He's been on the boards for the last few months with the TP guys, pushing massive gears. Too soon to switch to the jump needed to beat Kittel right now
'Pushing massive gears', really? Interesting, where did you see, hear that?
1. It's track. It's pursuiting. That's what's involved. You have 1 gear and it's going to be a massive one.
2. As above, I refer you to Friebe's tweets today
But they're pedalling like crazy in the pursuit! I suppose the start is a big gear effort. I can see he's lacking miles but i thought he'd have a good leg speed from the track.0 -
So your Verdicts are in after the one race.Joelsim wrote:True. He has been on the boards. Add that to the fact he isn't as fast as Kittel and there's your answer.
Kittel was the most desperate with having to prove his worth on a new team and that team also need to show they have got their lead out correct.
They did very well and the next month will be interesting when the season gets started. 8)
The peloton now know the score. ?Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
deejay wrote:
So your Verdicts are in after the one race.Joelsim wrote:True. He has been on the boards. Add that to the fact he isn't as fast as Kittel and there's your answer.
Kittel was the most desperate with having to prove his worth on a new team and that team also need to show they have got their lead out correct.
They did very well and the next month will be interesting when the season gets started. 8)
The peloton now know the score. ?
Not really deejay.
Simply that Cav isn't finished as a top sprinter, he clearly still is. But Kittel is faster. And to my mind there is only one person who could challenge Herr K and that is Gaviria.0 -
iainf72 wrote:Cavendish finished etc
Is he fat?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
inseine wrote:Kittel, Cav, Greipel, Kristoff, Bouhanni, Vivianni................should be a good year
Bennett “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
inseine wrote:Richmond Racer 2 wrote:inseine wrote:Richmond Racer 2 wrote:Worth having a squint at Friebe's tweet discussion with a few of us today re Cav
He's been on the boards for the last few months with the TP guys, pushing massive gears. Too soon to switch to the jump needed to beat Kittel right now
'Pushing massive gears', really? Interesting, where did you see, hear that?
1. It's track. It's pursuiting. That's what's involved. You have 1 gear and it's going to be a massive one.
2. As above, I refer you to Friebe's tweets today
But they're pedalling like crazy in the pursuit! I suppose the start is a big gear effort. I can see he's lacking miles but i thought he'd have a good leg speed from the track.
Regardless of the gearing or leg speed - training to increase your 4 minute power is going to blunt your 12 second power. Whether or not Cavendish was training for a team pursuit when he was getting beaten by Kittel in 2013 & 2014 remains a different matter0 -
TailWindHome wrote:inseine wrote:Kittel, Cav, Greipel, Kristoff, Bouhanni, Vivianni................should be a good year
Bennett
YES!0 -
inseine wrote:TailWindHome wrote:inseine wrote:Kittel, Cav, Greipel, Kristoff, Bouhanni, Vivianni................should be a good year
Bennett
YES!
Gordon?0
